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asciilifeform: ( the overall db wait time is ~= the total )
asciilifeform: mod6: also legend oughta read 'db write wait time'
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mircea_popescu: !~google trawler
ben_vulpes: it's a freshwater river thing.
ben_vulpes: one trawls for lolz, trolls for trout.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's trawling.
mircea_popescu: snark is trolling.
ben_vulpes: this is snark, not trolling
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes has been trying to troll all day, and he sucks at it!
mircea_popescu: it's not that far off as it is. bout halfway there.
asciilifeform: eventually (given the extant turdball) it'll be >10min, and party's over.
asciilifeform: you can trivially derive the fact of it being not at all linear.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didn't i tellya it'll be geometric ?
mircea_popescu: the one concerning point is that the growth has not yet plateau'd.
asciilifeform: 'stress tests' ?
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what happened in the spikes
asciilifeform: ( the one i used for the plots )
asciilifeform: mod6: see ye olde http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << there is a pythong and gp script in there
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah, because it autoprocessed the bot log anyway. you dun gotta do nuttin.
mod6: and it looks like 69x easier than me gimp'ing over some eulora screenshots.
diana_coman: there is that
mircea_popescu: thanks god you took the hour to write it out so two years later i can link it.
diana_coman can't quite believe that's from 2015 already, ha
mircea_popescu: says gnuplot right there
mod6: haha, yeah, it did grind it down for like 10 seconds, but then it was fine
mod6: ahhh right, i remember seeing this.
mod6: ya, turned out cool 'eh? thanks for your help. looks sweet.
mod6: i actually had no idea how you guys were doing the charting.
mod6: thanks a LOT to diana_coman who helped me :]
mircea_popescu: spotting this sort of thing is why graphs exist in the first place.
mod6: oh yah! guess there are. :]
mod6: looking through the raw data now...
mod6: well, maybe it is? i see some spikes in the 30000ms range... didn't think it was ever that high.
mod6: is this kinda what you're looking for? http://www.mod6.net/eatblock-test/ProcessBlockTimeVDBWaitTime.png
mircea_popescu is sitting pretty on a large ball of synergy, pulling on the threads.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, that's what "we use in eulora"
asciilifeform: anything else -- waste of time
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 18:23 mod6: im having trouble making a graph with nearly a million datapoints in it.
Framedragger: smooth troubleshooting!
mircea_popescu: quoth me : "so power it down, open freezer door, put glass of hot water close to conduit in question."
mircea_popescu: quoth her : "fuck me, i bet i know what happened. power went out for like 10 minutes yest, musta been the water duct froze in the interval then power being back on it maintains the ice cork and it can't make more ice."
ben_vulpes: second gross of the day
mircea_popescu: in other hardpower lulz, chick's icemaker in the fridge stopped working, just this very sad sound and no ice forthcoming. she called the very helpful super (young guy, i suppose he likes her). quoth he : "sometimes when the power goes out you have to reset these. you know, like computers ? power it down overnight and see in the morning."
mod6: had to hardpower off the fucking cocksucker
mod6: infact, this thing crashed my entire computer. pff
mircea_popescu: recall, all the mining maps
mircea_popescu: mod6 use the tool we use in eulora!
mod6: any other graph tool suggestions?
mod6: drawing of the graph is crashing LibreOffice Calc.
mod6: im having trouble making a graph with nearly a million datapoints in it. ☟︎
mats: i've little exposure to game theory beyond iterated tit-for-tat so i found this interesting
mats: Framedragger: came up in a discussion re: dprk engagement, regarding how one might 'error correct' to prevent conflict spiraling
a111: Logged on 2014-06-22 17:11 asciilifeform: (think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids')
Framedragger: mats: why this particular paper? unless no good comparisons till now, but kinda hard to believe? just curious.
mats: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2460568 a comparison of game theory strategies: always-defect, always-cooperate, tit-for-tat and win-stay, lose-shift
asciilifeform: 'The man accused of fatally shooting five people in a Washington state mall last year has been found dead in his jail cell, authorities said Monday. ... When police confronted the suspect, he froze and complied ... was unarmed and silent, "kind of zombie-like," ... emigrated from Turkey and was a legal permanent resident'
mircea_popescu: who was this ?
ben_vulpes: 'members' threw me off
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'Steve Stephens was spotted this morning by PSP members in Erie County. After a brief pursuit, Stephens shot and killed himself.' -- re: recent desperado
mircea_popescu: oh, and in "trends and fashions of wedding parties today", https://68.media.tumblr.com/036dc4e5d5e3ac795a421c403de31b76/tumblr_o1m2tuV3ym1uzp3feo1_400.gif
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 17:16 ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-18#1645485 << yeah well, when the people actually get a way, or for that matter a clue, maybe we revisit this. ☝︎
lobbes: Nifty! thanks trinque/asciilifeform
trinque: but yeah, not required to have musltronic trb
trinque: if you wanted to start from stage1, there'd be additional steps involving selecting the right portage profile
trinque: mostly, it's 1) start from a musltronic stage3 (they're present on the mirrors in iirc "experimental") and 2) install layman, add musl overlay
lobbes: Wow, that makes sense all of a sudden
lobbes: Aha (Sorry, most of this is over my head still)
asciilifeform: is that it will run, in principle,
lobbes: Well, I'm just trying to stand up a gentoo that'll run trb. Seems like my kernel choice may not be as important as I thought as long as gcc is musltronic?
asciilifeform: ( but presumably lobbes is trying for a musltronic linux -- probably oughta ask trinque , iirc he has one going )
asciilifeform: in mod6's buildtron, the kernel isn't even used.
asciilifeform: ( this was, if anyone recalls, the whole reason i brought in the buildroot thing )
asciilifeform: but you gotta make sure to have musltronic gcc.
ben_vulpes: trb builds with buildroot though, does that with which the kernel is compiled affect that pipeline?
asciilifeform: ( it fails to link statically )
asciilifeform: glibc is also not supported for trb.
lobbes: Aha, well this makes my decisions easier already
asciilifeform: for trb, that is.
lobbes: Perhaps musl is better option? Fwiw, I posted over on gentoo forumz with my specifics, but am not versed enough to know if the suggestions they gave (e.g. using glibc) will fuck me over building trb or not: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1062324.html?sid=c3ea68da31445ec3e870e5344a443dd3
lobbes: So, I'm midway through my first gentoo adventure. Currently on the compile kernel step (genkernel), but running into funkiness with uClibc errors. My question is: if I abandon uClibc for, say, glibc, will I have issues building trb? (I remember reading in logz that trb doesn't use glibc)
ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!" ☟︎
asciilifeform: would be lulzy to make a subtle parody of this masterpiece, and sneak into bookstores, with forged barcode.
ben_vulpes: one of the $libgirls in $othertown
ben_vulpes: someone else, possibly 2/10 troll
ben_vulpes: no i prohibited spending money on it when i saw the cover for the first time months ago
asciilifeform: where'dya get this
ben_vulpes: zero rhyme, and let us not speak of the reason.
asciilifeform: 'c is for co-op, cooperating cultures, creative counter to corporate vultures.'
ben_vulpes: t i shit thee not is for trans
ben_vulpes: which tbqh i did not think was possible
ben_vulpes: and if you thought the ideological brainrot was bad, the writing is /even worse/.
asciilifeform: why am i reading this
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/909DFE9E2F3DED604BE70F6DF2B433F01B8893DE2B2FCE532D57511CD10A97BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1630...5117 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.230.33.12 (ssh-rsa key from 87.230.33.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (lvps87-230-33-12.dedicated.hosteurope.de. DE NW)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/909DFE9E2F3DED604BE70F6DF2B433F01B8893DE2B2FCE532D57511CD10A97BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1407...9989 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.230.33.12 (ssh-rsa key from 87.230.33.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (lvps87-230-33-12.dedicated.hosteurope.de. DE NW)
mod6: asciilifeform: np all tall, my pleasure
mod6: <+asciilifeform> not a big deal, read+write ~= total ProcessBlock time << makes sense. stangely, i overlooked that last patch
asciilifeform: neato, ty for the sweat mod6
mod6: ok, i'll see what I can do about getting those two curves put together today.