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diana_coman: ascii_lander, sounds tempting but... what is dulap's gentoo?
diana_coman: to recap: I have ascii_lander's cribsheet; danielpbarron's old recipe; trinque's script
trinque: ascii_lander: can I direct your attention to #pizarro, or BingoBoingo's?
ascii_lander: diana_coman: if you like i can even produce a straight copy of dulap's gentoo, which you can later customize.
diana_coman: I have ascii_lander's cribsheet at least but after the previous experience with trinque's stuff I'm almost sure there'll be some fresh trouble
ascii_lander: danielpbarron: trinque's is musltronic, which is Teh Fyootoor but gotta make sure that mircea_popescu's proggy runs on this.
danielpbarron: ascii_lander, my recipe (on old blog) http://meadow.danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ ; but really trinque's is better
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: trinque has the superior item, it oughta supercede the trad gentoo
ascii_lander: diana_coman: i published the 'seekrit ingredient' (the use flags for banning crapola) and then danielpbarron turned it into a proper recipe
diana_coman: ascii_lander, did you publish anywhere the recipe you intend to follow for this?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: i played 100% of my cards correctly, thus far, prolly will have 2 ~empty days even
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, listen, better if you put the gentoo in, unload his schedule some.
ascii_lander: ascii_lander's current objectives : 1) find out wtf is happening to trinque's blade 2) drmengele power distributor to fit #14 cable 3) power up the ipkvm (ru plug) and 5v power source for rockchippen (ditto)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ascii_lander anyway, i expect you'll keep each other entertained for a spell with mg server, so.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: i am to understand that he has a 100% working musltron
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, i don't expect it is no.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: own, which is much moar 'plane jane', isn't musltronic yet sadly
mircea_popescu: cool. ascii_lander you using trinque 's recipe or own device ?
diana_coman: engentootation by ascii_lander's own hands sounds good to me
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: lemme know if you will be making own gentoo (or whichever alternative) for smg box, or whether you'd like an engentooation with my own hands
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, cool deal.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: took pic. will upload when i get back to room where the photo-extraction cable is
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, pic the lovebirds, i'm curious if any of the weight rubbed back off on him!
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, oh the why not irc, i'd have to ask for more specifics but generally he's pretty busy as it is, and he doesn't like to hang out with non believers too much
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: you can have dulap's gentoo, or make own when the ipkvm comes online tonight
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: it's racked. still need engentooation
deedbot: ascii_lander voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up ascii_lander
danielpbarron: ^ there is hope for even you mircea_popescu, for there have been rulers of the world who praised the true God
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-11 18:37 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, re greek texts, drawin can read greek hebrew and aramaic, and is working on his own translation of the Bible
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, darwin
trinque: danielpbarron: you go to Darwin_Fish's church? doesn't seem like a half-bad guy.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, have a great time!
mircea_popescu: nodehelp, what ben_vulpes said ; it doesn't use the system much.
mircea_popescu: nodehelp, Darwin_Fish, consider making a rsa key and registering it with deedbot, then you can self voice rather than having to do this every half hour.
deedbot: Darwin_Fish voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up Darwin_Fish
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, you gotta look at the images for tyhe comment to make sense.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, as i said before, "if it was 1800 it'd be 'witches'."
nodehelp: ok, first problem on compile: "cfns.gperf:101:1: error: ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’ redeclared inline with ‘gnu_inline’ attribute"
nodehelp: mircea_popescu: i know but there are various, i was too lazy to open everyone and make a sum
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, another advantage of having a blog is that you don't have to type everything by hand all the time. meet new people, have ready library of explanations and references. i find it QUITE empowering.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/#selection-45.0-45.165
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: so if the consulting demands suddenly disappeared forever, im quite sure great things would come
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: sure i can save a little. but the point is that the more i hustle consulting, the less time i have for making more valuable contributions to the world, like developing new crypto
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: interesting re:gentoo. im a gentoo developer
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: yea consulting is what ive been doing for over a decade now
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: well seems pretty clear that the future doing what im doing now is unlikely to yield aforementioned flowering sums of 2000btc (unless of course bitcoin tanks), unless a philanthropist comes along
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 06:15 mircea_popescu: !!pay trinque 0.03
a111: Logged on 2018-04-09 15:16 mircea_popescu: soo trinque, can i hire you to install your blessed gentoo in there ?
a111: Logged on 2018-04-14 21:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799029 << anyway, i wouldn't simplify it quite to that point. obviously there's a pull and there's a push way to make money, and if i propose to some guy, "do x, get y" it's my push not his pull, and obviously if he wants to pull instead of waiting to b pushed aroundhe gotta do pull-y sorta things. but anyways.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-14#1799145 i dunno if i had any pull-y things in mind. im not making a product or anything. just designing secure protocols and implementations and hoping something comes out of it ☝︎
nodehelp: mircea_popescu: i know, but is going at like 1 mbit the download
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, ok, but the point is ~they come seeking~. numbers for their tits!
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, consider this place, chicks regularily come asking to write strings on their tits, and it's not even in california!
deedbot: Darwin_Fish voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: !!up Darwin_Fish
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and the authority can not be predicated on the meaning."
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, http://trilema.com/2015/the-rabbi-and-the-ewe/
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, i wonder, are you willing to read a story i wrote tell me what you think ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, but your source for what god declared is a book which a guy wrote and some other guys maybe didn't alter (too much).
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, there's no deductive component in establishing what is evil ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, so then what's the problem with whoredom. that they came up with their own arrangement, rather than using a wedding ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: so from your mention of "criminal org" it seems to me that your concern is not so much the mathematical issues that are discussed in the literature, but rather a particular history that to you indicates there must be secret attacks that only the select few geniuses at the nsa know about, and everybody pushing ecc is either in on the conspiracy or just dumber than the nsa geniuses. i guess you're entitled to this opinion -- what's
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, but is this motivation evil ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-are-some-keys-small/ here we go
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, so you don't believe there's a sexual motivation in work ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: i take it now that mostly you're skeptical because the nsa was pushing ecc in the early years, before everyone else woke up to it ☟︎
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: ahh that ignorant and antiquated notion, that "key size implies security size". or do you think there will be some amazing GNFS-like algorithms that come out for ECC, requiring ECC to use absurdly huge keys in the same way as RSA?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, is not man made for work ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, well, which part of it ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: the keys in ECC are smaller. if your position is that this cant possibly mean it's more secure than RSA, then i suppose the actual claim you're making is that 'ECC with ECC-sized keys is less secure than RSA with RSA-sized keys'. what's the basis for this?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, but is it immoral for both the harlot and the guy paying her ?
zx2c4: all of them? some of the advantages are indisputable like key size and computation speed and implementation ease. im guessing you dont believe there's a security advantage over RSA? you're not soothed by the fact that many attacks against RSA dont work with ECC? okay, but that still doesn't discredit the indisputable advantages. so then maybe your position is that ECC has _weaker_ security than RSA for various reasons? that'd be a more interesting
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, what is the problem with prostitution ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: im curious -- why are you so bent on RSA? ECC has been around for quite some time now and has numerous advantages
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, prostitution is legal here (costa rica). are they all going to hell ?
deedbot: Darwin_Fish voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up Darwin_Fish
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, tell me about that ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, isn't it silly, to ruin a long standing relationship like that, over what was in the end a small error ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, maybe he was confused.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: the more interesting approach to foiling that kind of traffic analysis is the general topic of mixnets
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, how does that work though ? i mean...
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, so basically he ran up the church / your ccs, and eventually it had to come to an end ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, that doesn't tell me much, does it ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: and i think having that kind of thing always on -- constant chattiness -- would be a security step backwards, since it'd give up stealthiness. but of course if you still wanted it for a special use case, there's nothing in wireguard preventing you from having it pretty easily
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: wireguard isnt a library. its a virtual network interface that tunnels ip packets. what im pointing out is that your suggestion implies that both sides must _keep_ talking always, since thats the only way to obscure termination messages.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, check it out, agreement and harmony. now satisfy my curiosity : what happened with al soto ?
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: re:rand(20,200) - sorry. random number of bytes is all i was going for. (an ip header is 20 bytes, so you'd probably want to bound it at that. and 200 seems like a reasonable cut off. but of course we could keep engineering and designing that sort of thing and come up with different numbers.)
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, quite, "why ?" is an escalator, every successive why needs exponentially more resources to answer.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: if what you mean is rather than sending an empty packet, i should instead rand(20,200) zero bytes encrypted, then i wonder what this would accomplish. the other side now receives this. if it's a keepalive message (which it knows after decryption), then it goes silent. if it's not, then it either responds with whatever is appropriate to respond to that, or if it has nothing to say, it would have to send a keepalive too. in
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, and that is the substance of my proposition earlier. there is no place known to me where the most refined and annoying whys can be stated quite like in this field.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, good. so what would you say is the fundamental thing in children that eventually, but necessarily, leads them to at the very least question the possibility of divinity, if not outright seek it ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, anyway, theology is the study of divinity as a theoretical possibility ; religion is the study of historical human practice. the catholics resolve this problem by claiming (falsely) that they were specifically promised god will preserve their religion in theology. this claim has all the strength of their claim constantine deeded them the world.
zx2c4: mircea_popescu: let's take a protocol that just encrypts ip packets and nothing more. traffic analysis of the size of packets gives you something, especially in the case of TCP where there are necessary types of responses at various points. but i suppose you want me to consider "general purpose cases". so im thinking about a raw UDP protocol. in this case, it might be that at the end of an exchange, one side has nothing more to say, and so it says
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, you ever heard that quip, that "in theory, there's no difference between theory and practice ; in practice, there is" ? "theologically, there's no difference between theology and religion. but religiously..."