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MolokoDesk:
I gotta get back to the pacific. Surf's up.
mircea_popescu: <MolokoDesk> so far
I'm not worried about that. << freud would beg to differ.
MolokoDesk: it's a bit of work to "not lose a private key".
I jest somewhat.
MolokoDesk:
I'm in.
I'll get that set up in a while.
MolokoDesk:
I do understand the utility of it, obviously.
MolokoDesk: but
I see why it's the thing to do now, since
I'm going to be in here a bit.
kakobrekla: <kakobrekla> didnt
i just link to it? < twice, first time was a /notice
mircea_popescu: "
i float carried on tits with wings of cotton candy on their backs, they carry me through pink skies and fluffy clouds upon which bubble sleepy dinosaurs. flying by go butts with lengthy bead strings, and a rustic potato crucified on lolips " etc
nubbins`:
i'm thinking wtf? search the archives
nubbins`: reminds me of a thread on gigposters.com, the place
i learned my craft -- question was "what's your fave show poster"
MolokoDesk:
I may want to talk about the deliveries and such in /msg
MolokoDesk: ok. if we're in agreement about what to do and when to do it
I can send you a bitcoin address and get to work.
ben_vulpes:
i'll posit you the other scenario: bisect the codebase inserting GC calls until we find one innocuously positioned that can discredit the btcd team
justusranvier:
I've actually got to run for about 30-45 minutes, but when
I get back
I can explain what actually happened on testnet.
ben_vulpes: hey justusranvier
i see you collecting btctips off my work
mircea_popescu: which is why
i'm not negrating you, myself. but hey, everyone his own wot sauce.
justusranvier:
I just spent the last three days supporting a code sprint with four Monetas coders and Dave Collins while they work on btcwallet. Midnightmagic's story about btcd forking testnet is complete BS
mircea_popescu:
i mean even fucking karpeles had his own (bad) sauce ffs.
MolokoDesk:
I was considering that the other night, having a web of trust data structure as a graph, then different algorithms to assess inheritance or diffusion of trust, various wieghtings of different endorsements, graph topology analysis to detect mutual endorsement cartels, that sort of thing
MolokoDesk: yeah,
i'm scraping wolfram alpha, but if you pay them there's an API that is somewhat more flexible.
mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC
i don't recall what
i wanted to commend you about, but it was something.
MolokoDesk:
I notice that cryptsy has so many altcoins now that trying to load the entire json spew for them all crashes the quote-reading module.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol
i don't think tao can stay unless it starts answering ,chart in pm only
MolokoDesk:
I'm using a lot of scraping to get data in some cases so some modules require periodic maintenance.
MolokoDesk:
i open a pipe for stdio, stdin and stderr.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk
i dunno how you get gpg for php for instance.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: Do you mind if we go PM?
I don't want to disturb channel.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol
i got #trilema like that, it consists of me and some other cool kids logging into gribble.
MolokoDesk:
I'm hosting a bot in ragnar's channel already.
MolokoDesk: you want to discuss what happens when it's done that's fine.
I'm already good to start on this based on previous email relayed.
MolokoDesk: yeah, if this is finally it there's not much more to say,
I'll just do it.
MolokoDesk:
I had been intending to accumulate individual documents and bundle them periodically then announce the bundle/blog location
MolokoDesk: ok. still have to do a bit of work to find the address in the block. knowing the trasnaction ID is more specific.
I'm not arguing the case, this is find.
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic:
i did for quite some time.
MolokoDesk:
I see you prefer the block number to the transaction number.
mircea_popescu:
i'd be so curious to fuck the imaginary daughter of knuth and buffett.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: The last time
I was anything but civil to the ninjawhatever type, it turned into 2-year siege that culminated in .. like three (apparent) lawsuits because "ops blah blah exceeding authority blah". Why would
I want to risk that a second time when it costs me virtually nothing to report on what
I see?
MolokoDesk: It's simple enough to parmeterize it,
i didn't mean changing it from IRC. sure.
decimation: mircea_popescu:
I guess the question is about how much you trust the keyserver to serve valid keys
MolokoDesk:
I see you've specified about 1 per hour.
MolokoDesk: bundling the documents every 5 minutes or so. and storing the hash of that.
I was focusing too much on indivdual documents. The bundling feature was in my unit test notes.
RagnarDanneskjol:
i think the 'obviously bogus' part isn't really even a consideration
MolokoDesk: the only thing
i haven't tested fully is spending via block.io's api (
i have the encoded wallet address already), and getting PGP keys or key IDs/hashes from a signed document without knowing the public keys already.
MolokoDesk:
I've basically worked up a construction kit for such a bot.
I presume the set of functions
I have working, or some subset of them, can be used to implement anything we've discussed here.
decimation: re: infantilism, charity <<
http://hopelesslysane.blogspot.com/2014/08/gratitude.html "
I watched one brave/stupid older woman approach a very large woman with six kids hanging off her cart ($420+ of free stuff), and tell her "
I know gratitude is beyond you, the least you could do is be polite." The oldest of the boys, about 12ish, menaced her, got in her face and said, "Fuck you, bitch! You owe us!", while momma smirked in approval.
decimation: MolokoDesk:
I disagree, "monopoly on violence" is a refrain of modern apologists for the state
decimation: for example, "
I demand that the the group give me a "gun free" life" becomes "give us your gun or go to the gulag" for the neighbor
mircea_popescu: welcome to philosophically sound software design (tm).
i hope to see a lot more of it in the future.
MolokoDesk: ok. if this is easier than what
I've done so be it.
MolokoDesk: heh.
I haven't tested this with documents signed by anyone else yet. sec.
MolokoDesk:
I did, which is why
I resorted to using wot's key registry.
MolokoDesk:
I didn't see any obvious way to do that.
MolokoDesk: sure, that's what
I wanted to do initially, get the public key from the signature.
mircea_popescu: no ppl
i r not insane tyvm stop pming me.
i am aware that through the process as described signatures never get in fact verified and one could create a colision and sign for someone else. this is not a bug, it's a fucking feature. you ARE supposed to check YOURSELF the fucking sigs if you intend to rely on the signed documents. it's the only way to implement this correctly.
MolokoDeck:
I think that use of "now" requires a comma in the first sentence, since it's used as a colloquialism or interjection.
ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: it's like "
i find this amusing, even though nobody else probably does, or someone's trolling me, but it's not quite lolworthy")
ben_vulpes:
i have two whole beers to get through before
i knock off for the long weekend
i want to read more unit tests
MolokoDeck:
I just sent you a link to the unit tests.
MolokoDeck: at least to do what
I'm already doing with it. If this is easier than that then it's as good as done.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol nah
i want it to always send from the same address.
mircea_popescu:
i need more coffee, amphetamines and cuntjuice over here.
MolokoDeck: if security concerns are de minimus
I'm ready to finish it as planned.
mircea_popescu: ok, so say what the thing is again, let's see if
i say yes this time.
MolokoDeck: what is of concern is that to make a valid transaction to the bitcoin blockchain one has to manage a web wallet. The first cut is going to use block.io since they have a simple API that includes the testnet (which
I'm using in such a rudimentary way it doesn't matter whether it's obsolete features exist or not. the subset of features is common to the latest bitcoind)