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asciilifeform: !up Vexual
asciilifeform: almost sorry we're running short on things to axe.
asciilifeform: deleting crud from bitcoin is so much fun,
asciilifeform: here's a thought:
asciilifeform: (this does not excuse other folks from test!)
asciilifeform: prior to posting
asciilifeform: btw i will note (in case this wasn't clear) that i test-fire everything i post
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: i would like to ask the fine gentlemen to read this and the antecedents (ben_vulpes has a pretty good review on his www)
asciilifeform: np
asciilifeform: unless someone notices serious problems, this is what will be built (using deterministic build process) and fielded on the first public node
asciilifeform: ^ precisely what is printed on the box. but all plz read
asciilifeform: '(EXPERIMENTAL) Full IRC Demolition; Manual External IP Setting; Version Bump.'
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000101.html
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!
asciilifeform notices that certain nodes in the wild... won't return the genesis block!!
asciilifeform: go, connect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 190.172.13.251 is dead
asciilifeform wonders how many folks, toiling in forgotten pestholes, have walked same path
asciilifeform curious re: 'the curve'
asciilifeform: ^ that's what i was talking about re: the deterministic build script
asciilifeform: again, i'm not about to fire it quite yet. probably needs another evening or two of massage.
asciilifeform: 5.4 works
asciilifeform: idk, what hogs do is in some circumstances a consideration at meat plant
asciilifeform: was there a turdalicious 5.4 ?
asciilifeform: widely deployed among unsuspecting folks
asciilifeform: for one thing, would piss on their 'too old' detection mechanism
asciilifeform: imho we oughta cleanly break with the gavinists' versioning sequence (e.g., 31337.1)
asciilifeform: ^ why not.
asciilifeform still in the process of sawing out the irc sync mechanism. after this, will have to see whether the deterministic-build thing actually works (my last attempt using therealbitcoin's 'official' script died in agony on account of gcc strange)
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu answered 2!
asciilifeform: mod6: not looking for earth-shaking ideas, but release was 0.5.3.1, and the thing about to be fielded is clearly something quite else, imho needs a new name, at least new ver. 2) ~somebody~'s gotta have a seed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: 2 items for consideration: 1) what version string is to be used in the first public therealbitcoin nodes? the current one doesn't seem appropriate 2) anyone have existing nodes (of whatever variety) to 'get a light' from? i'd prefer these to 'wild' mysterymeat
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: kids throwing own turds are only 'dangerous' to the orderlies, and this only if the latter forgot their mask
asciilifeform unpacks crate of east german z80 clones, counts, puts on shelf
asciilifeform: 'the chocolate ration has increased from 100 to 50g...' ☟︎
asciilifeform: in other news, happy 22nd june, actual-start-of-ww2-day, to all.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: jungle, islands are waiting for thestringpuller.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: to paraphrase herr trotsky on war, 'you may not be interested in life as a hobo, but life as a hobo is interested in you'
asciilifeform: http://cdn5.img.sputniknews.com/images/101561/27/1015612776.jpg << another 'choice' naggum didn't much care for
asciilifeform: (saw not a few pretty eligible dumpsters in buenos aires)
asciilifeform: or i'd be in that dumpster even now
asciilifeform: just as i don't care for it.
asciilifeform: i can already picture mircea_popescu's 'recipe': 'naggum should've moved to argentina' 'me: with what' 'mircea: with shirt on his back' 'me: doing what' 'mircea: sharpening knives while living in dumpster' 'me: betcha he knew this, and didn't care for it' ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3103356827666810@naggum.no.html << re: the particular kind of intellectual rape that naggum had his fill of, before deciding that he'd like to put an ocean between himself and 'silicon valley'
asciilifeform: https://web.archive.org/web/20150209100751/http://open.salon.com/blog/kent_pitman/2010/01/08/erik_naggum_on_atlas_shrugged << material which sheds some light on 'naggum in usa'
asciilifeform: the basic question from the thread was, i think, the ~why~ of why he did not want.
asciilifeform: mats: that herr naggum 'did not want to live' is profoundly obvious from the manner in which he died ☟︎
asciilifeform: and did not care for the blunt knives mandatorily issued to tards
asciilifeform: my understanding is that he didn't want to work with the profoundly retarded on retarded things
asciilifeform: mats: notice that he did not stay there. and, though all i have to work with is his writings, i believe i've a good handle on ~why~
asciilifeform: go, eat. it's still there.
asciilifeform: which in naggum's case was oslo regime
asciilifeform: that pile is not yours by virtue of having your name on it. it belongs to apex predator
asciilifeform: because why should some schmuck get to keep his pile ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mats: he did this. and was dekulakized
asciilifeform: as it was, he was not interested in going to africa to be arseraped. instead, 'drowned like a gentleman'
asciilifeform: if someone would like to take a break from voodoo and put on engineer hat, i'd like to hear concrete notion of what naggum 'should have' done
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171997 << it is my considered view that naggum got out of the game the only way he knew how... ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171994 << but how, precisely, was herr naggum to get out of it? recall, he did not spend whole life in one country - was in usa for most of the upper '90s ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171993 << well yes, the 'expense of civilized life' ~is~ 'treadmill' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171973 << pete_dushenski may be a little mislead by http://www.krasnoyeznamya.ru/gallery/rm_21_489.jpg ☝︎
asciilifeform: yes, it was necessary. to buy time for the conveyors to start up.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171972 << i find it smashingly hilarious that everyone today seems to still be buying that particular bit of wartime engineered psychosis. the 'fighting without pants, one rifle for three men' thing 100% lines up with the '41-'42 period when su was having the shit kicked out of it. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: fill up ~our~ (not yet built) box, not random schmuck's
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it appears to be (now) empty.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1171876 << the 'address space randomization' thing is precisely 'teacher's condom' (as depicted in comic, https://xkcd.com/463 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: only approximately, by claimed version
asciilifeform: and that we need 1) own seeds 2) optionally, irc box 3) organized hunt for ungavinized seeds from planet as a whole, to seed (1) nodes with
asciilifeform: it does appear to follow from this discovery that: the other side is paying attention...
asciilifeform: anyone notice if gavingang sent out 'alerts' recently ? ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i blew it away just this minute specifically to test.
asciilifeform: i mean, as late as 3 days ago..
asciilifeform: this worked earlier ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al ^
asciilifeform: because mine *NOW DOES*
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: does your node hang after 'IRC got who' ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mega-l0l
asciilifeform off to bed
asciilifeform is still not certain that he 'makes sense' even today
asciilifeform: whereby a n00b 'must read log for 6 mo' before he can make any sense
asciilifeform: it was a maxim made up by either mircea_popescu or pete_dushenski (forgot who)
asciilifeform doesn't recall doing the 'six months' thing personally, either
asciilifeform: wasn't me
asciilifeform: next time you're hungry, try eating this 'useful work'
asciilifeform: it doesn't soak up concentration of the kind that is a serious limited resource in a thinking person's day
asciilifeform: than 'donated time'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: a usenet post (or, for that matter, me speaking here) is more like a fart
asciilifeform: there are other 'costs' that aren't precisely monetary, like the fact that you can't do the 20 years where you became a serious specialist in something - over again
asciilifeform: this is even aside from the expensive things folks sometimes ~choose~ to do when they grow older, like producing children, etc
asciilifeform: that is, having four walls to sit in without strangers sharing the space, to eat real food, to sometimes visit doctors, etc ☟︎