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nubbins`: would
a vampire say "there is
a vampire"? :S
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nubbins`: altho i did roast
a pork tenderloin today
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> - that is, who do you wish to see win? <<< seems rather uncontroversial by now that the us is
a rogue state. at least to my eyes. but in two years of this we've yet to meet somerone who actually believes the us to be anything but
a criminal organisation.
mircea_popescu: <mats> in my opinion, this is
a fundamentally irreconcilable difference between govt agents and intel agents << idealised intel agents. like idealised doctors or lawyers, doing "liberal professions". like naggum's idealised "real programmers". problem is, these people don't exist in the counts you might wish to employ. they exist in short supply.
mircea_popescu: <mats> i get the impression that most americans accept as fact that torture is ineffective << for sure. do you know what else they accept ? that "free markets don't work" and that "socialism is democracy" and all sorts of similar things. do you know why they accept them ? because they want to believe. 16 yo 7/10 valley girl also believes she's "beautiful" and that "she really has
a chance". why wouldn't she, as far as
mircea_popescu: it's like saying "wifebeating works as
a matrimonial pacification tool".
mircea_popescu: mats> relying on
a source that's been tortured, now, thats not useful, but thats why you verify the information... << it's complicated. generally, by the time you have to torture people you're dead in the water.
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> is it weird << notrly. like you know, if you hear
a "sailor" talk about "Ships falling off the earth margin" you can also suspect they're the 15yo fibbing variety of seawolf.
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> for many of the redditards it is
a ~feels~ social movement, rather than
a macro-economic force of nature << like everything else. like, that's all they got.
mats: hows it feel to be
a lamb in
a den of killers?
mats: its actually
a humorous indictment of the CIAs HUMINT operations, that they weren't able to get useful information from the rendered
mats: and hire
a new spymaster you can leverage.
mats: sounds like
a recipe for high turnover and ineffective field work.
mats: in my opinion, this is
a fundamentally irreconcilable difference between govt agents and intel agents
undata: there's
a distinction here between the guy that forces you to your desk to work, and the guy that jiggles your hand as you try to write
mats: there's only one rule of law, and its wielded at the point of
a weapon
mats: PR backlash blah blah, anyone with
a mild degree of intelligence understands this is how the game is played
undata: I want to live in
a society where everything is done according to law
mats: you think they're running
a day care or something?
mats: any effective intelligence agency ought to be prepared to torture
a source.
undata: mats: lets clarify things; do you think we benefit from having
a CIA that does so?
undata: rather than "do we want to live under the fear of
a bureaucracy that tortures people at will?"
mats: relying on
a source that's been tortured, now, thats not useful, but thats why you verify the information...
mats: they speak about
a hundred english words between them, so i doubt they've been bought by USG.
mats: danielpbarron: my grandparents watched the second plane hit from
a high rise several blocks from the towers
mats: what
a blatant lie.
Pierre_Rochard: thestringpuller: because people like the author think Bitcoin _actually_ is
a ponzi scheme and that they have to help attract greater fools, so public relations / appearance/ etc are super important to -sell- bitcoin to the unsuspecting masses
thestringpuller: is it weird that everytime I see someone talk about adoption and acceptance in an article I immediately think they are
a n00b?
Pierre_Rochard: for many of the redditards it is
a ~feels~ social movement, rather than
a macro-economic force of nature
undata: With traditional Black Friday sales down 11% from last year, it’s it’s important to recognize that bitcoin is being used for
a variety of traditional products and services now. This Bitcoin Black Friday may signify
a move forward and toward mainstream acceptance of bitcoin.
jyap: ah yeah. never actually sent documentation in. more
a video chat.
punkman: can't just stick
a banana up your ass though
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: don't be
a dick about us Riccardo's << what do you use him for ?
fluffypony: this channel has taken the WoT and used it for
a purpose beyond OTC trades
fluffypony: the WoT is
a separate entity to the GPG WoT, of course
fluffypony:
a bot that allows any registered IRC user to further register with the Bitcoin-OTC WoT
fluffypony: in the beginning when OTC (over the counter) trades with Bitcoin were more prevalent than crappy / scammy exchanges there was
a need for an expression of trust relationships
iang: you might be talking about
a different Ricardo :)
fluffypony: iang: my name is Riccardo, it's
a joke
mircea_popescu: <undata> this idea that you can get dumb people to do smart things if only you find
a way to put smart behind
a single button mouse is
a terrible religion << dude so true.
cazalla: anyone have
a somethingawful account?
mats: i wonder if i can get pink eye giving myself
a dutch oven
undata: there's probably
a boutique for that here
undata: this idea that you can get dumb people to do smart things if only you find
a way to put smart behind
a single button mouse is
a terrible religion
undata: it wasn't bad as far as jobs go, but in the end we invented
a shitty version of emacs in the browser in JS
undata: drawing
a line between two columns of two tables and using
a venn diagram in the middle to define the join type
undata: UI components which were meant to say represent
a join, or
a boolean expression, or what have you
undata: that pg_meta embodies the approach; for everything, you make
a data model
undata: I left the company when I lost
a conflict over whether we should shift focus from burning the founder's money to making money
undata: at my old job, we were creating
a visual SQL editor as the primary way of fiddling this envisioned programming environment
undata: the relational part made
a bit of sense
undata: I recently worked for
a guy who wanted to make
a relational end user programming environment
BingoBoingo: iang: yeah. I can see monthly pub key updates being
a hassel if your big GPG use case is signatures
iang: well, every month I’d send him an email and he’d send me back
a request to use his new key :)
iang: oh, after, kept
a merry chain posting into perpetuity
iang: yah. I remember (one of?) the last person I used to talk regularly with gpg would make keys every month and dispose of the old ones. I only talked to him maybe once
a month so it didn’t last...
BingoBoingo: Similarly everyone on the internet is themself alleged to be
a troll at some point on
a long enough timeline
BingoBoingo: iang: You could produce
a GPG keypair and register with the gribble bot
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apple, the heritage company was never entirely innocent on the cabling front (Apple desktop bus, etc) The portable gadgets yes did demand
a still more grotesque submission. Thankfully pawn shops love Apple shit.
mircea_popescu: perhaps this latter also different from
a purely numeric ai
mircea_popescu: that's different from
a mathematically bound ai, no matter how clever
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, to be its own thing, posing
a threat.
BingoBoingo: Didn't realize apple died till junior year of college when I got an iPod to replace
a Rio MP3 player and was introduced to iTunes
mircea_popescu:
a purely mathematical language won't ever matter politically.