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thestringpuller: i was thinking of the scenario of having to absolutely read an encrypted memo but only have
a potentially compromised/malicious system available
adlai: plenty of cogent and together people dedicate their time to charity, but it's not
a terribly rewarding investment
adlai: if i were to specifically attack that, i'd start from the assumption that
a cogent and together person necessarily occupies their time in an activity which lends itself to monetary investment
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2014 07:19:05; mircea_popescu: fluffypony understand what i'm saying here. you seem cogent and together, you're working on this whatever thing i can't readily evaluate. i'd consider putting
a few coins into it ; i can even ignore the involvement of whatever known derp on the theory that on the long term sterile works itself out of metal anyway so who cares.
adlai: it's hard to organize an argument against nobody. kinda like planning an invasion without
a map.
adlai: and then the guys who bagheld xmr through the great bear market of 2014 all take
a group dump on the people who bought non-scarce goods
adlai: so we now have
a 10mil market cap
adlai: for
a coin to offer more than just
a speculation game, it needs to have some chance of outperforming btc
adlai: treating it as
a whalerpg where you take turns playing bull and bear is another story
adlai: mircea_popescu: do you seriously think that selling "
a few coins" into an altcoin will buy you more than
a handwave?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at crazy shit ranch : "I am
a twenty-year old sub living with my dom in Sask in
a 24/7 D/s relationship. For the past two years I have been training as
a sub and saving money for school. In the summer I will be relocating to Toronto for college in the fall. My Sir will find
a Dom for me there with the hopes of finding me someone to stay with while I study. In exchange I will serve him as his slave for
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with that, i just spent
a coupla hours derping in eulora myself. jus as long as it's not coming as
a surprise later.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it gotta somehow make business sense. and the problem is, if it doesn't make it for me it doesn't make it in general, because what exact particular assumptions got baked in ? nothing much. if there isn't
a good answer to "so what's my btc buy me" other than handwave, there's probably no better answer to "what's your time buy you" other than, whatever, "playing
a mmorpg".
mircea_popescu: fluffypony understand what i'm saying here. you seem cogent and together, you're working on this whatever thing i can't readily evaluate. i'd consider putting
a few coins into it ; i can even ignore the involvement of whatever known derp on the theory that on the long term sterile works itself out of metal anyway so who cares.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Maybe It's the robitussin, but without
a hard cap on supply how do we break the "new" world
fluffypony: so any growth comes from utility and not from
a deflationary nature
fluffypony: from
a business PoV it's unlikely to be
a good investment unless you're happy to hold it for several years
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so from
a purely business pov, why would i give this thing
a 2nd thought ? what exactly can my 1 btc buy me and how ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, what's the differences. The interesting stuff? I'm fighting
a generic winter illness and slowly realizing
a bottle of cold medicine is supposed to contain multiple doses.
fluffypony: at the moment no minimum mixin level is enforced, so ostensibly an output in the utxoset can actually be spent at some point with
a mixin of 0, and thus is *actually* spent
fluffypony: "mixing" is done on inputs for
a tx only, based on denominations of ^10, and inputs are mixed with previously unspent inputs
fluffypony: sure, it's
a cryptocurrency, not based on the Bitcoin source, no GUI at present
mircea_popescu: this just took
a turn for the weird - erryone discussing me in terms im unfamiliar with
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> this is the correct use for the 'i dun wanna learn
a second programming language' folks. << liek the ppl that want everything to be lisp ? :D
mircea_popescu: i dunno why all this geographic arrangement.
a bitcoin island,
a derp camp...
ben_vulpes: "build me
a space elevator from materials available today."
undata:
a quote of
a quote I swear
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 02:36:41; asciilifeform: 'If you're
a defendant, you don't get to claim your fingerprints miraculously appeared at
a crime scene... If you're
a bookkeeper, you don't get to say money miraculously disappeared from your company...'
ben_vulpes: at some scales and without some simplifying assumptions you just need
a universe to model
a universe!
thestringpuller: The ones that brand you
a fuck-up if you don't pass "the entrance exam" of which you only have on opportunity to pass.
thestringpuller: well someone who is going to exclaim nonsense about JS being useful to "understand code" should be stuffed in the bowels of some buildings as
a serf
undata: sounds like
a person headed for serfdom under this scenario
thestringpuller: well at least you can bribe the guards in
a russian prison
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: should not have had access to any technology more complex than pitchfork. << but isn't this how ignorant mobs form? as much as I like
a pitchfork mob....
undata: "Javascript is actually in demand now for good reason. Node.js is
a powerful tool for specific applications and you no longer need to know 2 languages if you go the full JS stack." << I call this single-step reasoning. It's everywhere.
thestringpuller: "I wish Bitcoin was written in JS, I'd be able to understand it
a bit better."
thestringpuller: Ryan X. Charles: "I discovered bitcoin on May 13, 2011 and never recovered. After developing
a reputation as the bitcoin guy at the physics department, I eventually quit my physics PhD program and went full-time bitcoin. I worked for the best bitcoin company in the world, BitPay"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich << the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing
a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing. << The conversion of cocaine from productivity aide to party favor has probably been one of the msot damaging transitions of this last hundred years
undata: this mental conversation I have about "yes, pick up the cup and have
a sip" happens substantially later than the action to do so is already in motion
undata: asciilifeform: the idea is that people can be shown to have made
a decision before they are capable of reporting that decision to anyone
undata: decimation: I consider "god"
a barely scrutable term
cazalla: actually, misses has
a hotmail, i'll go harass her
undata: decimation: veering into woo-woo territory, but in meditation I've often gotten the sense that the sense of "myself" in my head is
a very small chunk of what I am
undata: I had
a retina macbook, total rubbish
decimation: undata: I think there is
a 'yearning for meaning' inside of each human, and that generally drives them to choose
a god of some kind
undata: decimation: from
a certain perspective, imagining things that do not exist and creating them is delusion-fueled activity
undata: however, it might be adaptive to have
a touch of it; would I keep working towards escaping the gravity well if I wasn't certain I can accomplish it?
undata: And I saw
a new heaven and
a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as
a bride adorned for her husband.
undata: but maybe certain behaviors (like imagining
a 'heaven' state) are instinctive
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2014 19:04:08; asciilifeform: and, finally, his moment arrived! von Kármán surrendered his orange ticket, took
a deep breath, and said, "God, explain turbulence." Theodore von Kármán spent the rest of eternity burning in Hell.'
decimation: the Bible is certainly unclear on the specifics. I imagine it is
a place where one can ask God wtf he was thinking
undata: mircea_popescu: yeah, we'll need
a better heaven! heaven 3.0
mircea_popescu: i dunno, the traditional heaven (dude, it's like
a really large field, we can camp and hike! and graze!)
mircea_popescu: you can dress 'em whichever way you want, but in the end
a monkey merely trained to recognise the letters is not
a scholar, and just so these "modern" men and women are in fact quite primitive.
mircea_popescu: decimation the magical mental needs of the feeble minded don't go away simply because they are surrounded by / live in
a society based on more advanced thoughts.
decimation: so I find these AI doomsayers highly amusing. most of them would laugh at
a Christian's claim of revelation (knowledge which comes neither through induction nor deduction) but are more than happy to jump on board the eliezer yudkowsky tard train because "I know it is true"
decimation: he had
a whole thread about the london whale and associated retardation
decimation: I think he is some kind of trader that works for
a major firm
mircea_popescu: famously, ceausescu once visited kim in korea, came back with
a cockfull of life and brand new ideas of how to perfect socialism.
decimation: apparently obamacare 'allows' employers to give you
a 'discount' off your 'insurance' premiums if you enroll in their hitlerjunge programes
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i write on
a platform that doesn't run grep o.O
mircea_popescu: the only great fortune of europe in the industrial age was that they copied the dutch approach (as the tulip mania was coming to
a close, dutch courts simply refused to intervene in any capacity and "Fuck you!")
mircea_popescu: (they put
a group of men in exclusive charge of battlefield rifle use)
mircea_popescu: just like the ottomans ended up "the sick man of europe" through
a particular choice of centralisation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if rifles could only be produced in 12 places on the planet, most fighting would still be conducted with spears and axes. <<< there's
a lot of depth to this observation. for instance :
undata: mircea_popescu: naw I was raised by
a proper cold-warrior; they exist
undata: at
a previous job we even had
a sand-filled punching bag for that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: would have to give enough of
a shit to fund, but not enough to attempt to direct. this will happen shortly after pigs fly. << incidentally, this is why the idle rich are so important irl.