asciilifeform: it isn't even that su didn't know how to make loudspeakers

asciilifeform: any kind

asciilifeform: another device that did not exist in the city where i grew up was: the subwoofer

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: perelman, as i understand, lives off his mother's pension.

asciilifeform: fuck that

asciilifeform: that sounds like actual work

asciilifeform: except that i also want to not have to see them ever

asciilifeform: what trinque said

asciilifeform: we didn't have those, either

asciilifeform: as do screaming morons

asciilifeform: so traffic noises drive me batshit

asciilifeform: but it had almost no traffic

asciilifeform: i grew up in a city

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: that they would feel same way.

asciilifeform: it makes god's own sense to me

asciilifeform: ~i~ want to put as much distance as possible between own arse and these folks.

asciilifeform: not weird at all

asciilifeform: they'd just put 2x as many 500k houses in.

asciilifeform: and if it were ?

asciilifeform: there will simply be more folks who get to drive the obligatory 1-2 hr

asciilifeform: the only thing new infrastructure is used for, in usa, is to pack in more chumps for same kind of life.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194417 << remember how the spiel went when the highways were built ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: where was this? africa ?

asciilifeform: ah

asciilifeform: it is two metres under the asphalt.

asciilifeform: i know where it is, because the city excavated it last year.

asciilifeform: i, for instance, park on top of my house's drain pipe every single day.

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: how is it even physically possible ?

asciilifeform: these drains are made of rubber ?!

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: and the inhabitants.

asciilifeform: ar, in particular, i liked very much.

asciilifeform: doesn't mean that i dislike those places, or their inhabitants

asciilifeform: if that.

asciilifeform: kentucky, or argentina, etc, literally don't need me in particular for anything but 'weight in pork'

asciilifeform: that one is not wanted there.

asciilifeform: that's what 'foreign country' even ~means~, historically

asciilifeform: because wtf can you live on there.

asciilifeform: because it is.

asciilifeform: in its own way

asciilifeform: pluto is nice too, i hear

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: and to everyone i know.

asciilifeform: but point of fact is, to ~me~ kentucky may as well be pluto

asciilifeform: on account of having been built there back when actual honest commerce was a thing

asciilifeform: it hands it out there for historical reasons (it is where the majority of the chump candidates live, given as that is where the anthill mega-cities are found)

asciilifeform: hence folks live there.

asciilifeform: the coasts are where usg hands out payola. ☟︎

asciilifeform: how do lions in the zoo get things, other than being 'given' ?

asciilifeform: and what, precisely, ought one expect of folks raised in a zoo?

asciilifeform: just as mr stack probably would have

asciilifeform: i bet if some helpful fella gave them a few kg of plastique each, they would put it to good use...

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193991 << was linked as 'entomological sample' ! specifically, example of folks 'spinning their wheels' ☝︎

asciilifeform: that gun hasn't publicly fired yet.

asciilifeform: no idea what the ~other~ nsa does

asciilifeform: based on existing nonsense coming out of the we-don't-know-how-to-break-rsa-yet-agency

asciilifeform: can't know. only conjecture.

asciilifeform: my point is that this kind of attack is not only the kind of thing usg specializes in, but pretty much the only thing they know how to do at all

asciilifeform: but i don't get to say 'it's low on the list, let's all sleep'

asciilifeform: me? no

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's intel dept. - possibly

asciilifeform: how the hell would i (or anyone else) know where it is on what list ?

asciilifeform: at&t.

asciilifeform: just mutilate packets if regexp matches.

asciilifeform: no imagination needed

asciilifeform: and this kind of dull, mechanistic diddlage is precisely what usg specializes in ☟︎

asciilifeform: upstream - no

asciilifeform: comcast - sure

asciilifeform: but that it is doable, and trivial, and can be carried out in such a way as to affect only known bitcoin nodes, seems obvious to me

asciilifeform: at what level the fucking will be done, is debatable

asciilifeform: and the argument that some backwards isp, somewhere, may not be 'up to date', does not sway me.

asciilifeform: every backbone.

asciilifeform: and similar in ru, cn

asciilifeform: certainly in nato-reich

asciilifeform: there is a 'room 641a' at every single major infrastructural junction

asciilifeform: of how it is done

asciilifeform: it is merely an example

asciilifeform: they come and go when they want.

asciilifeform: they don't work for crapcast either

asciilifeform: the folks with the key to room 641a - yes

asciilifeform: you - no

asciilifeform: what do you suppose 'narus' makes ?

asciilifeform: srsly

asciilifeform: already!

asciilifeform: it's deployed!

asciilifeform: won't affect anything else.

asciilifeform: tomorrow hitler says 'anybody talking on 8333 gets timewarped'

asciilifeform: not like it's a secret who they are.

asciilifeform: incl pogo

asciilifeform: just the queries from known bitcoin nodes

asciilifeform: decimation: there is no reason why ~all~ ntp servers proper would have to be diddled

asciilifeform: which also gets to drift ?

asciilifeform: random node ?

asciilifeform: (interrupts vary quite unpredictably)

asciilifeform: and the reason is no mystery

asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, it does not.

asciilifeform: from lack of money to pay the electric bill, say.

asciilifeform: aha