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mircea_popescu: heh. ok then.
asciilifeform: which twiddles the dns, silently, and serves up the correct d00d's site based on url requested.
asciilifeform: it lives on an ancient collective cluster thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 16:16 mircea_popescu: basically asciilifeform look for a dumb s/"http://www.// that gets applied everywhere
asciilifeform: i'll repeat, there is no possible way you can get to my www via http://ip . for any value of ip.
mod6: hi, sorry got pulled away for a few there.
Framedragger: if nc'd to 208.94.116.204
asciilifeform: Framedragger: then i have even deeper nfi
mircea_popescu: no, the box has a whole c block
Framedragger: asciilifeform: apparently it works with 208.94.116.204, too
asciilifeform: at least not where i can get to it.
Framedragger: not sure about www.www, i also thought, maybe you have an alias loper-os.org => www.loper-os.org mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no such thing on my end, fwiw.
mircea_popescu: unless someone put a shitperl in there and forgot all about it.
asciilifeform: the attempt to load random crapolade, somehow triggers this.
asciilifeform: demonstrably ddos-proof, to date.
asciilifeform: nfs inc. has ancient, 1990s-era thing with dynamic ips
mircea_popescu: why, this is the expected behaviour ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox post output of my exact curl ( with the &> stderr redirect into txt file )
mircea_popescu: but it's still there. you got... >2 bugs.
Framedragger: if i supply this to nc, i get 200
mircea_popescu: for some reason (ie, abug) it doesn't get applied to you/most others
mircea_popescu: basically asciilifeform look for a dumb s/"http://www.// that gets applied everywhere ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ is unlikely to apply mechanically to anybody else's wp install, mine is prehistoric
asciilifeform: ( meanwhile : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pgp_fix_cribbed_from_mp.vpatch << tentative . ) ☟︎
Framedragger: i wonder if mircea_popescu'd get the same if he ran a manual GET under `nc loper-os.org 80` hah
asciilifeform: anyone able to replicate mircea_popescu's effect ?
mircea_popescu: the problem is that mine dun work, not that yours does.
phf`: Framedragger: oh cute, i thought that was a typo, or err copypasto
Framedragger: i mean, at this point i'd almost recommend to run a traceroute....
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZsKjC/?raw=true whole thing.
Framedragger: seems that www.www is the 301 *target* returned to his client, hah
asciilifeform: you gotta put quotes around the url y'know, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: seems to load here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your site redirects me to http://www.www.loper-os.org/?p=1887&cpage=1 and i load jack.
Framedragger yet to fetch keys and side-channel-verify...
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1887&cpage=1#comment-18086 << seems to verify
asciilifeform: ( i pasted mod6's text and commented under his name )
asciilifeform: seems to work nao!!
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654047 << php error_log may be able to tell you something? oblig caution re. gas mask, tho... ☝︎
asciilifeform: ok, let's try again:
asciilifeform: quite strange, because mircea_popescu's item doesn't appear to use any exotica
mircea_popescu: sorry to hear.
asciilifeform tried just now transplanting mircea_popescu's get_comment_text() from comment-template.php into own www
mircea_popescu: i do know it takes a while to train, and that it ~never fucks up my queue, i need to click maybe 3 items a week.
asciilifeform: http://asciilifeform.com << asciilifeform's mp-wp test install. comments dun work...
asciilifeform: ( i would like to ditch the google horror thing i've got in there presently )
asciilifeform: which to me was the mega-feature
mircea_popescu: ah wait, yeah, i recall you trying and couldn't get some corner in the door, what was it, do yo urecall ?
mircea_popescu: and you know, not putting it in wholesale LAST time you ran into this problem with i dun recall what, it's how you woke up screaming in the middle of the night a half year later because OMFG WUT
mircea_popescu: should be in wp-comments.php or w/e it's called i think. that'd be the displayer of comments section.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes , et al : got a snippet for this wp fix ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654011 << because ben_vulpes went through a day or two of screaming and drilling with me on the topic many many years ago and we fixed the process. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 13:24 asciilifeform: mod6: it gotta be in the display end. when i paste from the 'edit comment' box, it verifies
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1654007 << this only means it saved it correctly in the db. wp does another filtering pass when displaying, which does munge. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 05:15 mod6: after curl'ing down the page itself, this is what it looks like in HTML: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tTbXV/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: phf` why do you think sex doll ? common female also can get clit shield / urethra buzzer installed.
phf`: wp on top of that runs comments through a renderer, that adds paragraph breaks and smileys and such
phf`: otherwise a POST from a curl/programmatically is the safest way to upload. that's what browsers also supposed to do, but some of them will corrupt your CR/CRLF/LF combinations, which is not anything that you can defend from on the server side
phf`: i'm pretty sure wp arbitrarily mungles posts/comments on render. that's why mircea_popescu's wp version has a special hack that wraps gpg data in a pre and ensures that wp doesn't touch it in any way ☟︎
mod6: I think independant replication is in order myself; i.e. someone create a clearsigned message with multiple line feeds in there (\n), and see if the result is the same.
mod6: I remember these to be exceptionally painful.
mod6: ben_vulpes: do you care to remind the readers of the adventure you had to take to handle this with your wotpaste tool?
mod6: if i did something wrong here, i don't know, to this very minute what it is.
mod6: thanks asciilifeform for taking down the comment.
phf`: welcome back to another round of "we trying to put TEXT into a TEXTBOX" with your host phf
asciilifeform: mod6: it gotta be in the display end. when i paste from the 'edit comment' box, it verifies ☟︎
mod6: my belief is that loper is discarding one of '0a's in that line 0000180 or whatever from lastnight
mod6: ill leave off with this, here is the un-buffer-copied, original before pasting into ben's wotpaste and loper
mod6: yah, same as both alf and I too.
mod6: do you have all of the stuff between the '-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----' and '-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----', including those lines?
shinohai: mod6: The paste verifies fine, the loperos one gives me: gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
mod6: shinohai: thanks.
mod6: *copy all PGP text
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545&cpage=1#comment-18076 << << then go here, all PGP text and see if it verifies for ya.
shinohai: Morning mod6, be glad to help if possible. o7
mod6: <+mod6> <+mod6> This is the actual pgp clearsigned data: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9AAL7/?raw=true << this is what gets pasted into the comments section. 7bit ascii. << go to this link, copy the text, save locally, or however you want to do it, and see if it verifies.
mod6: shinohai: you around? got time to do me a favor?
mod6: feels like the same thing that we went through with the pastebin stuff once upon a time.
mod6: either loper, or browser is magling the text.
mod6: <+mod6> This is the actual pgp clearsigned data: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9AAL7/?raw=true << this is what gets pasted into the comments section. 7bit ascii.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ah but mod6 baby, you can't sign html and expect to verify the text a browser outputs cmon. << :] i didn't sign html.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1653951 << that is surely one of them sex dolls? ☝︎
phf`: was out of print since 2005, and i was trying to find a copy for a while, but ruckert just republished it using amazon's self publishing system. i haven't gotten a copy yet, but i suspect that it might not be a particularly good print, but we'll see
phf`: for people who are into that kind of shit, Ruckert republished his "Understanding MP3", which is notable for being a literate program write up of an mp3 decoder (plus all the necessary context to understand how it works) https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-MP3-Semantics-Mathematics-Algorithms/dp/1541259335
mircea_popescu: ah but mod6 baby, you can't sign html and expect to verify the text a browser outputs cmon. whole fucking thing is a substitution engine for strings, how's the clearsign gonna be preserved.
mod6: maybe if wraped <code></code> tags wouldn't have wrapped up the links and snarffed the \n's.
mod6: so it's not much of a suprise i guess that a copy of the text, rendered, doesn't work.
mod6: after curl'ing down the page itself, this is what it looks like in HTML: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tTbXV/?raw=true ☟︎
mod6: anyway, don't worry about it. just nuke the post I made, and I'll dump the unsigned text inthere.
mod6: here's a gnu unified diff of the same: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JWTFY/?raw=true
asciilifeform: that diff is useless, the tops ain't aligned
mod6: will diff the orig and the latest pasted now, sec.
asciilifeform: mod6: diff the hexdump -C outputs
asciilifeform: where in satan's name does that space come from ?
mod6: naw, same thing. weird.
mod6: i might have to refresh/clear cache
mod6: seems to be the same for me?
asciilifeform: mod6: try nao ?
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