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davout: it appears that if we want to make
a proper apple pie from scratch we'll have to invent the universe first
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2014 11:54:21; mircea_popescu: other than proper cryptography for all foss, as discussed coupla days re gentoo overlays etc, i would fucking love for all lines of code to come with
a counter.
davout: meant yesterday's log as it seems it has come up quite
a few times already :D
davout: well, you can't really build
a good house without good bricks
davout: so, re yesterday's convo about go and c it occurs to me that b-
a will eventually have to have
a reviewed & signed code repo
decimation: there's
a deep hypocrisy here somewhere. apparently the usg entities who are involved with foreign surveillance couldn't possibly do their jobs if they were subject to 'regulation', but of course regular people trying to say, transact bitcoin, have no such reprieve
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2015 21:14:09; kakobrekla: ^^ re chf,
a few folks committed suicide today cause of it.
mircea_popescu: better off if half the "community" gets upset and moves on to collecting bugs or digging trenches or whatever, than if programming becomes
a sort of passtime for trench diggers and worm afficionados.
mircea_popescu: tolerance is not the answer to any question worth asking, and it does not serve any purpose other than the general drowning in shit. which is not
a desirable outcome in any case.
mircea_popescu: it's not gratuitous, all this. it provides
a very valuable signal, both to the inferior and to the superior.
mircea_popescu: but also why
a certain attitude to ineptitude, from the "affirmative action", "wopmen in tech" "don't say nigger" all the way to stupidities like the equalitarism in freenode's policies is so very important. and why linus' "fuck you" is such
a major thing.
decimation: well, apparently he confirmed that redhat was itself
a ship of lemmings, looking for
a lemming-king, and lennart was their man
mircea_popescu: giving inept infantrymen good horses doesn't create an elite cavalry regiment, it just creates
a lot of injured horses. giving stupid people smart things doesn't make them smart. it'll just make
a lot of broken smart things.
mircea_popescu: kinda why "adoption" is meaningless. i don't care for anyone to "adopt" anything i do. i might care if they change to fit to it. but otherwise, good fucking luck, there's no value in having
a bunch of pacific islanders speak english as if it were the retarded language they spoke before.
mircea_popescu: "because they have no political power - and that's what you want,
a lot of lemmings"
mircea_popescu: but
a fuckwit 20something discussing how "people have not played with unix at all" is, indeed, amusing.
mircea_popescu: "in the most superficial level, some used -h for help, and others ––help. It’s not uniform." << i can't name
a tool that doesn't actually honor both.
mircea_popescu: course, the prospect is
a lot grim-er for linux, but hey.
decimation: he tries to make
a halfass technical argument against Upstart, and then whines that it's hard to make commits
decimation: something could be improved. They do
a Git checkout, do one change, send you it and forget about it."
undata: tragic; upstart is
a much simpler alternative
decimation: it's pretty obvious that the guy is
a control freak who gets off on forcing his way
assbot: Watch Reid Wiseman's Vine "Even
a 50kg mass does the same flipping maneuver. “Wild” to me! #science #SpaceVine" ... (
http://bit.ly/1Civp1R )
ben_vulpes: <decimation> [] outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make
a legacy' << just look for the "apparent pedophilia rate" as evidenced by "he had kiddie pr0nz" to go up.
mircea_popescu: to acquire
a portion of the productively outlayed capital i nthe country.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there are at least
a dozen honest online brokerages.
mircea_popescu: decimation
a horrible deal. imagine all the noise you'd be pouring into the market.
decimation: well, it would be
a big deal if you day trade all day
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the cheapo stock houses make
a killing by charging xx usd / trade << iirc it's about
a dime/
a quarter per lot, which lot is usually 1k shares, which can easily be 100k usd.
mircea_popescu: buffett oft dwells on the matter : it's easy for krill to find
a good meal, on account of being small. not so easy for whale.
mircea_popescu: there is no significant advantage to size, and
a serious problem to it.
decimation: yeah I'm using it as
a somewhat poor example. my main point is that having $x mil to 'invest' allows one to bend over and pick up stuff that bums have no access to
mircea_popescu: decimation why 100x ? you proposed
a 1bn - >1.5 bn deal.
decimation: of course someone with
a spare $bil to invest in
a sony movie (for example) will make $0.5 bil profit
decimation: if living off gov't checks anyway, wouldn't
a trailer park somewhere stretch the bezzlars?
decimation: the other amusing point that the article fails to bring up: if the 'poor' must pay to live in
a dense shitty city, why not move to the country?
mircea_popescu: apparently wikipedia deleted
a page discussing the "forward" as
a generic name for socialist publications after someone mocked obama for it.
decimation: well, it certainly curtails one form of civil forfeiture at the federal level, leaving
a vacuum that can be filled at the state level, if the states so desire
decimation: outgoing attorney general Holder wants to 'make
a legacy'
decimation: ah I see that link only has
a few pages of the book
decimation: I just can't imagine
a future in which I will need to learn 'go' for work or pleasure
mircea_popescu: hory shit i had to pay half
a tent of
a bitcent in tx fees. HODL EVERYTHANG!!! MUST INCREASE BLOXSIZE PLOX!
mircea_popescu: so there's
a small statue in buenos aires with
a san martin quote i absolutely love.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as
a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG? << it could become
a new brand of tide.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: this is how athero was able to launch ziggap << not
a very good example. he had amassed trust over time, and likely at
a higher cost than what he made out of it. the controlling factor there was "insane guy stopped taking his pills one day."
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: such
a thing is not possible; there needs to be an arbiter to decide if
a bet has resolved yes or no << easier to "invent" stuff than understand stuff. just like it's easier to write new code than understand coding.
danielpbarron: i don't think they are so rational; i suspect it has more to do with "going viral" like
a clever youtube video, and having been in on it before it was trendy
thestringpuller: starving marvin in kenya buys
a bitcoin with his 50000 kenyan shillings he saved up over the course of 5 years...
danielpbarron: there are plenty of people who are so focused on "mass adoption" as
a priority that they will compromise any and all aspects of bitcoin to further that goal; what would get more mass adoption than endorsement from USG?
thestringpuller: But isn't this like someone trying to power
a water wheel by simply running up stream with buckets of water they collect downstream?
thestringpuller: Spend X money to build hoover dam and it explodes less than
a year while runnign?
danielpbarron: "I am slowely being impaled on
a sharped stake. Ask me anything."
thestringpuller: or maybe everyone is
a puppet of some sort. that's
a little beyond me tho
danielpbarron: such
a thing is not possible; there needs to be an arbiter to decide if
a bet has resolved yes or no
mircea_popescu: i know for
a fact the usg did not know what was in the leaks until their press agents told em
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point is that gpg was widely used for the snowden leaks. this indicates that
a major player trusted it, and was right in so doing ; and suggests
a major target for that reason alone.
mircea_popescu: artifexd it's not
a strict thing, more like
a general consideration. i doubt they managed to react fast enough to do much to 4.14
BingoBoingo: ^ And on that note I'm headed out for
a bit.
mircea_popescu: so ima send
a btc to assbot's 1B6NP9eb4RKy9tRrXYCJnNcenZkrt5Q2gb