asciilifeform: because they ~do not actually want the ears cut off the walls~

asciilifeform: but the inevitable conclusion is that the greenwald shitgang works for washington

asciilifeform: well sure

asciilifeform: notice that no one is forcing the buggerz to print anything today.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: that everybody with half a neuron already knew about

asciilifeform: of 1990s-era programs a la 'echelon'

asciilifeform: which all just ~happens~ to be idiot powerpoint

asciilifeform: or everything he could fit on his bag of disks

asciilifeform: earlier schmuck, supposedly had 'everything'

asciilifeform: on top of this, the greenwald-poitras-omidyar shitgang never mentioned him again

asciilifeform: but disposed of him (and anyone who might be able to supply conclusive proof)

asciilifeform: they were also, apparently, unable to entirely suppress the rumour of the existence of 'second man'

asciilifeform: and the fact that it was 1) out of phase 2) no more where that came from.

asciilifeform: no, based on ANT papers vs all the other garbage

asciilifeform: the 'second leaker' is abundantly clear from the entirely other (interesting, actionable, technically-detailed) nature of the 'ANT catalogue' papers

asciilifeform: easy hypothesis - sell 'redphones,' 'blackphones,', 'keybase', 'cryptodoesntwork' (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: for this, we visit earlier threads re: hangout

asciilifeform: t1 = schmuckden runs off with some paperz, gives to phriendz t2 = found, through one way or another, and nailgunned t3 = snowden (tm) (r) is created

asciilifeform: i can think of a few others

asciilifeform: ^ this is one entirely plausible sketch

asciilifeform: (they make him work a full shift, imagine)

asciilifeform: mr nsa firmware diddler reads morning papers, for months, containing snowden (tm). decides to fuck his employer, who he never really liked

asciilifeform: lessee

asciilifeform: as in, a formulated hypothesis ?

asciilifeform: specifically ?

asciilifeform: very, very clear.

asciilifeform: the difference is a brick in the face.

asciilifeform: i read 100% of the material attributed to both 'snowdens'

asciilifeform: but a spent shell, and some smoke.

asciilifeform: we don't have a corpse, no

asciilifeform: and no more technical docs after this.

asciilifeform: and the fact that after 'other snowden' published this, greenwald & co claimed contact

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: circumstantial; based on out-of-phase release time, and the content (uncensored) and formatting (full text memos, with technical detail, rather than idiot powerpoint) ☟︎

asciilifeform: greenwald helped to lead him to the cork-lined cellar, yes

asciilifeform: who was killed

asciilifeform: )

asciilifeform: (there is convincing evidence that all the ~good stuff~ - e.g., DEITYBOUNCE, GODSURGE, etc. - is from snowden2

asciilifeform: !s hangout

asciilifeform: hardcore philologists may care about the imaginary personal life of a literary character, sure

asciilifeform: it'd be like saying 'sherlock holmes married'

asciilifeform: and anyway, snowden is a tv character

asciilifeform: not afaik ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it loads here.

asciilifeform: the responsible thing to do is to help propel the bastards to hell where they belong.

asciilifeform: let'em burn.

asciilifeform: fuck 'responsible'

asciilifeform: yes - hang.

asciilifeform: and serving his usg masters to this day

asciilifeform: for hoarding the goodz

asciilifeform: *book

asciilifeform: he was permitted to write a book, the very typical 'escaped sov brass' boot, nominally 'edgy' but 100% usg-approved

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1215958 << what did he expect, running off to usa? ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^^^

asciilifeform: y'know, the mythical 'west' that my parents thought they were moving us to

asciilifeform: but what i actually want is to live in the civilized world.

asciilifeform: yes, i can gentooize it and get real coffee

asciilifeform: didn't say there was a solution, l0l

asciilifeform: it IS for EVERYONE in buenos aires ☟︎

asciilifeform: there is a coffee man there, also. but he sells starbuxified crapbeans

asciilifeform: bread from market

asciilifeform: ergo - gentoo.

asciilifeform: hence same as if importing by post from ethiopia or whatever.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: but ~not~ <10min from my middle-of-nowhere $office

asciilifeform: it means work

asciilifeform: this is gentooization

asciilifeform: yes

asciilifeform: even coffee

asciilifeform: i get it, it is possible to 'gentooize' just about anything

asciilifeform: y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can

asciilifeform would like to be able to drink a ~decent~ cup of coffee without having to personally import, roast, and grind the beans ☟︎

asciilifeform: aha, mcdonaldization

asciilifeform: 'want a glass of beer? here's some sand, some lime, some hop seeds...'

asciilifeform: see, i want something much more realistic - drink which is not ~deliberately~ shit-flavoured

asciilifeform: phf: neat. unfortunately i'm not in that town often

asciilifeform: nubbins` wouldn't. civet degustatorz - yes

asciilifeform: let's package'n'sell ~his~ turds?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you need an animal which doesn't immediately croak from caffeine

asciilifeform: esp. if bred for the task

asciilifeform: i bet pigs would work just as well

asciilifeform: they'll eat whatever

asciilifeform: pigs

asciilifeform: why not feed it to horses, cows

asciilifeform: nubbins`: when i learned about this coffee, as a boy, i immediately wondered why they use this animal and no other

asciilifeform: and could no more move to than france or argentina

asciilifeform: which i've never been to

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes lives in some very other country

asciilifeform: know in meatspace

asciilifeform: because that's what's in every street corner.

asciilifeform: point being, the only coffee i or anyone i know can readily access in <10 min., is office pot or shitbux

asciilifeform thought this was well-known

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: (started mega-roasting or whatever it is they do)

asciilifeform: but it recently starbuxized

asciilifeform: there used to be a drinkable coffee in wash.,dc

asciilifeform: if i feel like coffee, i get to choose between shitbux and the office pot.

asciilifeform: but i dare say that at this point, it's a microshit:

asciilifeform: phf: this described mcd, yes. but starbucks also has a kind of pretentious-twit appeal (or once had)

asciilifeform: mats: i have never personally known anyone who achieved great power or access to astonishing s33kr1tz through re. but i am willing to concede that somewhere, they exist.