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Pierre_Rochard: Now this part may be controversial for some members of b-a, but it’s at the point where fee revenue growth decelerates that the block size should be increased *marginally*, if the goal is to maximize fee revenue
ben_vulpes: yeah, and again we're at the "snapshot of a dynamic thing
ben_vulpes: there is only bitcoin, and if one cannot afford the miners fees for inclusion in a block, one does not need to transfer bitcoins enough.
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davout: gavinandresen: "okey dokey, then we might not have much to talk about if you want to stick with OpenSSL bugs that were included in the protocol by mistake." <<< actually i distinctly remember mike hearn telling me how that particular bug was part of the protocol and how it somehow justified not putting any effort towards actually specifying anything, in a spec, not in code
asciilifeform: the philosophy of the slow poisoner, vs. a fellow willing to knife in broad daylight
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gavinandresen: felipelalli: that’d be a fine way to roll out the change; I think gmaxwell and sipa prefer that plan.
felipelalli: gavinandresen: theymos said: << (...) Make the change now, but have it take place at a particular date or block number 2 years in the future. Then when the change actually happens, everyone will already be updated because almost no one uses 2-year-old software. Yes, 2 years is a long time, but we'll survive. >> is that possible and why it is a good or bad idea?
felipelalli: increase the 21M max coins is possible through a hard fork?
felipelalli: davout: nice explanation. It gives a good article in qntra.net
gavinandresen: ben_vulpes: yes; a soft fork makes the protocol more strict. You have to hard fork to make it more lenient.
ben_vulpes: ah, so a breaking of the protocol
davout: ben_vulpes: a soft fork is making the set of valid blocks smaller, a hard fork is the opposite
gavinandresen: a hard fork means everybody running a full node must upgrade, or they will be on a different chain ☟︎
gavinandresen: a soft fork means miners must upgrade, or their blocks will be rejected. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: is a soft fork not a breaking of bitcoin in some way?
davout: felipelalli: that was a soft fork
gavinandresen: … that was a soft fork, not a hard fork, but it still caused people to accuse me of trying to destroy Bitcoin
diametric: nubbins`: are you actually going to post a video to prove a point to one of his shills/
davout: "You are 100000% correct. It's funny how easy it is to spot a statist who thinks everything should be controlled instead of letting the market do its job."
BingoBoingo: And like Ghandi he will try to ruin a good thing.
davout: "that's the main thing i'm constantly impressed by, his demeanor is exactly right for the position he's in. he's a role model to us all, a modern day gandhi so to speak. ;)"
kakobrekla: i noticed when i was coding that keyservers tend to go down a lot
kakobrekla: a while*
mike_c: which isn't really true. and the fact of that will become interesting when mpex takes a side on the hard-fork.
davout: the perfect duration for a meal is when the end of the previous one overlaps with the beginning of the next one
chetty: 3 hours is a short quick lunch in Argentina
mircea_popescu: would have been a shame to miss all this.
mircea_popescu: no it's perfect, i have a lunch meeting too.
davout: "can’t right now, have a lunch meeting. Happy to another time"
davout: "if you want to come in #bitcoin-assets and argue a bit your proposal, a bunch of folks would be interested" <<< let's see how that goes
mircea_popescu: nothing about your own intellect, experience, competence or otherwise merit justifies me even knowing your fucking name. you're nobody in the plainest sense, i can throw a rock in any town in america and probably hit two of you!
mircea_popescu: hey gavin ? YOU ARE GETTING A FREE RIDE. you're pretty much the only one. you're a middling software engineer that is STILL leeching some historical happenstance.,
mircea_popescu: that's what "free ride" is now. having built value over time is a "free ride"
mircea_popescu: "I’m waiting for somebody to notice us greedy early adopters get a free ride on transaction fees and complain....."
mircea_popescu: well, tell him he has a chance to be heard, and learn exactly why he is wrong and generally grow as a person.
mircea_popescu: seems kinda bizarre gavin still pretends like he's had a public discussion about this but so far has not quite got his courage up enough to bring his hairball of non sequiturs, wild jumps and logic holes over here.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/btcjam-what-starts-as-a-scam-stays-a-scam/
mircea_popescu: you are ill qualified to as much as change a fucking version in the bvlocks, let alone the database.
nubbins`: because if all that's left is a train, you better believe we're gonna make it run!
nubbins`: interestingly, they choose to waste their fuel on locomotion rather than as a heat source
nubbins`: THE LAST SURVIVING HUMANS ARE STUCK ON A TRAIN THAT NEVER STOPS
mircea_popescu: not in the sense where some vcs come on later, pat us on the head, give each a car and wipe us out.
mircea_popescu: it CERTAINLY has no value as a bitcoin development paradigm, because well... BITCOIN IS NOT FOR SALE.
mircea_popescu: maybe this has merits as a website develoipment paradigm
mircea_popescu: "The fundamental pain point here, is that Gavin insists on everyone being able to get in, instead of allowing a sane transaction fee market to emerge, by letting the blocks actually fill-up."
davout: mircea_popescu: "Cette entrée a été publiée dans Bitcoin le janvier 21, 2015"
kakobrekla: maybe he was reading #b-a on how art keeps getting record high prices and battles inflation and though he was getting a piece of hedge
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nubbins`: i know he's not a shill and he's not a fool, but beyond that... shrug
davout: BingoBoingo: yeah, so a different language for all practical purposes
davout: ah, so it looks like c++ with a bunch of extra packages
thestringpuller: davout: i use VC as a catch all like VB
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> apparently they'll want to change bitcoin to gavincoin 1:1 later on, but they don't want to change it at a 25% discount today. << should better offer it at 25% over, otherwise they are admitting their coin has the lower value
mircea_popescu: nah it's a language
mircea_popescu: atually ima do a write-up :D
kakobrekla: what a landing page http://shrani.si/f/2M/LH/4MydJP6h/btcjam.png
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: This is also the rationale behind a baseball game on a hot summer day. Grrr...we need to go to one this ear
mircea_popescu: "oh i have 50 btc in a wallet somewhere, i contributed 5000 lines of code to bitcoin core that will have to be taken out later at considerable expense and i go to all th conferences if some scammer is paying the airfare (coach)"
mircea_popescu: now that's a point.
BingoBoingo: Yeah they need to find another sporting venture, because it is perfectly fine to be a fishing party while sitting around drinking beer.
mircea_popescu: roughly in the position of a hunting party that's out there building sandcastles and collecting flowers.
BingoBoingo: Maybe they aren't sure enough yet that there will be a Gavincoin given -dev doesn't seem keen on his stuff.
mircea_popescu: apparently they'll want to change bitcoin to gavincoin 1:1 later on, but they don't want to change it at a 25% discount today.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: pity conformal isn't better known. << how so? ben_vulpes has referenced them a lot over the past two years. they are making me want to learn Go.
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punkman: https://gist.github.com/ryancdotorg/18235723e926be0afbdd http://kukuruku.co/hub/infosec/backdoor-in-a-public-rsa-key
Vexual: all these idiots taking a deal
Vexual: ross is prolly guilty of something, but he deserves a free trial
BingoBoingo: Two and a half months late!
BingoBoingo: O.o A new arrest!
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Vexual: we did decide on a rate
Vexual: nah imma draw a dino
nubbins`: now there's a !rate?!
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Vexual: are you suggesting that if i have a pgp key n wot kako will like my occasional music?
Vexual: ive got a bitcoin key
Vexual: and a 5 dollar paypay?
nubbins`: get a pgp key already
nubbins`: which i think is a bit on the expensive side
felipelalli: I found a good idea make something implemented just to "wake up" after 2 years.
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Naphex: i'm just watching if the lil ones loose a finger :D
nubbins`: sweet. if it's rad, let's work out a trade
BingoBoingo: chetty: But that goes against killing it by "fixing it" you know... in the way you kill a chanpion dog's breeding value bu fixing it
Vexual: they got the same guy from ironchef, with a labotomy
Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AARbneprV8Y a new generation ready for realitytv
chetty: <BingoBoingo> Vexual: asciilifeform linked it a while back. basically able people must wear handicaps to make everyone equal.//only other solution is just kill all the handicaps
BingoBoingo: Vexual: asciilifeform linked it a while back. basically able people must wear handicaps to make everyone equal.
Vexual: now thats a story
jurov: ha. only trannies shall cast a look upon the beautiful visages of strong and independent womyn!!!1
punkman: " if a single ls doesn't use up at least 50% of installed RAM then it is condoning the toxic culture of fat shaming."
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Vexual: is that supposed to ba a table leg? wehre sthe table?
Vexual: does he carve a potato print in a slab of cedar?
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felipelalli: Vexual: 80% don't know what bitcoin is and 90% of the remaining 20% think it is a scam. Is that your question?