asciilifeform: the 'real programmerz' are not in such a bubble, in that you are interacting with them every time you flip the light switch or turn on the tap, or get into a '747'
asciilifeform: thing is, if something is alive inside an impenetrable bubble, it is not alive.
asciilifeform: can't speak for others, but ~i~ still visit it.
asciilifeform: because stopped happenening around 1960 or so
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu brings up interesting point. entirely possible that north kr will binge to death on reddit, like the red skinned man did on liquor, when the time comes☟︎
asciilifeform: they will eat own shoes, yes. but not mcd
asciilifeform: and this may almost make up for everything else
asciilifeform: the world's only nation without mcdonalds
asciilifeform: recall the old thread about north kr?
asciilifeform: just like not having had tumblr pheminism in a language yet, is a great cultural asset
asciilifeform: some shields may cost more than they are worth. but i argue that not-having-britney-spears-in-your-language is worth ~something~ culturally
asciilifeform: (though a jail can be inside a castle, yes)
asciilifeform: lets you have a little 'usenet' going. for a spell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be clear, i won't recommend esperanto as a literary language. but will point out that it plays somewhat of the same role morse plays for 'hams', or sign language for the literate deaf. i.e. a ~shield against mainstream cultural poison~
asciilifeform: used by precisely the folks 'together for reasonable reasons'
asciilifeform: see also orlov re: english being a technical pidgin
asciilifeform: good exercise for folks who like languages but don't know ru yet
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone can learn to pronounce - with flavour! - these poemz
asciilifeform: ^ these are all poems. in the style indicated above each (e.g., pushkin's)
asciilifeform: everybody laughs at the esperantists for a century, but this is kinda why they do it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'я русский бы выучил только за то что им разговаривал ленин' (TM) (R)
asciilifeform: 'The teenage mechanical engineering student, who set up the killer machine as part of college class project, was charged with two counts of assault, interfering with a police officer and failure to obey an officer's signal, after refusing to turn himself in on an outstanding warrant and attacking the officers in question "repeatedly".'
asciilifeform: hence pretty useless except as part of something else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was an escalator, not a remote 0day
asciilifeform: perhaps instead of waiting for this finding, mircea_popescu ought to have paid a nickel to an interchangeable chunk of protoplasm from 'fiverr' or 'etsy' to discover it.
asciilifeform: my model is based on the same almost-nonexistent record as everybody else's ...
asciilifeform: because 'who the fuck pays for sunlight'
asciilifeform: but no one will pay for, e.g., de-drepperization of bitcoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to pound in the last nail (for now) in the subject: razi, avicenna, et al had it easy compared to modern folk: they could at least charge the rich folks of their time for providing something superficially like working medicine
