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nubbins`: too true though. even WPS setup is too much of
a burden at this point
mircea_popescu: and now THERE asciilifeform hjas us: nobody exists without
a bag of thumb drives
nubbins`: would be nice to use SD as
a base option, with the ability to stuff whatever laptop etc drive in there
mircea_popescu: women aren't sluts just because they're dressed in the nude ; derps on tv aren't scientists just because they wear
a white lab coat ; stinky hobos at your local starbucks aren't anything other than all the other people in starbucks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun fact : 50% of america dreams of but doesn't own and can't afford
a laptop.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, slower. obviously if
a block takes less thna 10 minutes it's still perfectly usable.
davout: ok, if its performance is storage-speed bound i should get
a disk with it
davout: ok, the thing itself doesn't include storage, does it have to be
a sata disk, or would
a large enough sd be enough?
nubbins`: i don't have room for
a big ol' box
nubbins`: my router's stuffed behind my stereo in
a jumble of wires, for example
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really, you can get
a few bux that way but import the risk you get
a special box of special units.
nubbins`: remember those usb block erupters? people would literally pay
a $300+ premium if you just put the USB hub,
a cable, and the erupters in the same box for them.
mircea_popescu: notice how both women display it, centered arund the cunt, but the mother has been worked into society towards
a slightly more relaxed position of the other end of the spine.
mircea_popescu: davout this thing, started as
a casual why not, turned into
a fountain of cool. nuts.
nubbins`: fuck, this place really needs
a daily summary
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's forever on the router dude. that was the spec. for
a box to plug into your spare router hole and sit there forevert.
nubbins`: alf, are you imagining this device as something that plugs in, flashes the router, & is then removed, or an actual node as
a device, hanging out of
a port on the router?
mircea_popescu: "This Saturday, in
a stylish canal side house in the center of Amsterdam,
a team of four hackers who had never met each other before, including two who were using bitcoin for the first time, might have constructed the theoretical groundwork to solve this problem. "
mircea_popescu: so... i go to watch
a film with netflix, pay in btc. they see the tx and let me watch
mircea_popescu: ". This is less than ideal, especially for some kinds of digital products –
a Netflix-type of service that sells movies on demand, for instance."
mircea_popescu: sooo... any people looking to start
a journalistic career ?
davout: "one doesn;t have to import
a preloaded chain" <<< the getting up to date from scratch time will be interesting
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 19:33:44; asciilifeform: idk what you folks had in mind, but what i was making was that one of these can plug with crossover cable into
a virginal unit and deflower it.
davout: methinks setting up might not be trivial if one must also import
a pre-loaded chain
mircea_popescu: davout something like that. danielpbarron is ready to write
a 101 guide
mircea_popescu: the building chain process is in fact
a decent way to advertise the node.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or should someone aspiring to qntra publishing do it instead ? << leaning towards this, but if interest isn't expressed soon I'll take
a break from current writing to do it quickly.
trinque: "This is the dawn of
a new world." << Inspiring.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so can we get
a block count and runtime count so far ?
nubbins`: incidentally, those Teenage Engineering things i linked to re: packaging earlier? They don't even come with
a fucking /case/, and people bought them in the tens of thousands when they were announced
mircea_popescu: then in
a decade they start with the "TIME TO RUN ALF OUT OF THIS FREEDOM MOVEMENT"
mircea_popescu: but it's
a good contact. "WAIT LINUX ALLOWS BITCOIN TO RUN ON ROUTER?!?!?!?!"
lobbes: <asciilifeform> no need to buy exotic ssd either. old laptop hdd 64G and above ought to do for
a while << vps with same specs should work too, right?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of which, i wonder for how many noobs this will eb the first practical contact with
a nix machine
phillipsjk: MIcrosoft will want
a cut is you use vfat :P
mircea_popescu: dude i like talking things through in here, it's like
a mental lens.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's
a good idea btw. can it do that much ?
danielpbarron: can the pogonode be programmed to automount
a usb drive, check for signed raw transactions in
a text file, and broadcast them?
phillipsjk: Presumably you can mail our "bitcoin box v2" if you become convinced
a larger loack-size is needed.
phillipsjk: Yes, I understand the appeal of
a "set it and forget it" box. Sometimes, upgrades are kind of forced on users though. My former ISP mailed out
a VSDL Modem when the local monopoy stopped supporting the older ADSL modem.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk i don't think anyone'll be able to beat the "spend
a coupla hours having fun with real deal code, then forget about it" deal.
phillipsjk was planing on buying
a new "cheap" SSD every year for his full node.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. well nubbins` was proposing
a packaging etc.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk that's not the problem : anyone with half
a clue can do the same and make
a diff bitcoin static
phillipsjk: asciilifeform, I was thinking, simply modify your code to handle
a larger block-size.
nubbins`: so this is essentially
a mouser parts list, and
a list of instructions?
mircea_popescu: l;et people buy individually, i dont want to ship out
a stock of special-diddled machines
nubbins`: or do
a thing like raspi did, sub it out to the mfg's
mircea_popescu: that's the problem : to have them shipped to
a central location and then shipped out trebles the cost
nubbins`: and also toss out the fact that
a "ready to go" version will make .foundation more financially independent
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep that's
a good thing
mircea_popescu: trinque for one thing, you can use it as
a proxy for your actual bitcoind
trinque: are there any services
a derpuser might be able to use within his own network if he has
a full node?
mircea_popescu: the long term benefit is
a "just keep it powered and you are providing one full node"
nubbins`: you can't persuade people to do something long-term if they don't see
a long-term benefit, period.
nubbins`: however, generating
a bunch of signed transactions and loading
a single one onto each unit, which the eventual owner may spend or discard as he sees fit...
nubbins`: some will produce
a photo of their running unit, then scrap it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if whoever buys
a unit installs whatever code he wants on it, he can use any address he pleases.
nubbins`: sending coin is
a no-no because it identifies the IP as running
a node?
nubbins`: but for the purposes of this --
a pre-loaded one-time-use address
nubbins`: bake
a private key and 0.0001 btc into it.
nubbins`: daemon monitors addresses of distributed units, disburses funds in the form of btc when
a unit goes live
mircea_popescu: anywya, danielpbarron is working on
a full length noob guide, online cheaper than on paper