mircea_popescu: it's there.

mircea_popescu: !~google FUCKGOATS TRNG

mircea_popescu: well ? not like you're googling them by name wtf.

mircea_popescu: maybe someone somewhere is working on this, maybe they aren't, it's not the sort of question ima decide sitting here.

mircea_popescu: i'm not, nor do i give a shit. but by some definitions of "public" (ie, i'm lazy, let it come to me) fg is also not public. whereas what people are working on is not really the public's problem anyway.

mircea_popescu: how would you know who's working on the problem ?

mircea_popescu: and note that i didn't "immediately think". you asked me "what would be point of poorman yacht" and i correctly said whoring. rich people use them for sport, but i don't see you racing your concoction. if for no other reason then because regattas are always fulla hopeful hos, and generally very crowded.

mircea_popescu: of course it theoretically might. the theory is tailored to the intended audience. "by their lights" it seems to make sense.

mircea_popescu: no. but "x dun work, y theoretically might" is how cattle ends up in ranch.

mircea_popescu: this theory is how asciilifeform pays wash dc rents, also.

mircea_popescu: if you "cant" do anything useful you're ~redditard/wikipedia editor/open source contributor etc. really, no reason to be here, no room for you here, go awya.

mircea_popescu: there was no consideration given to amount. the argument was qualitative not quantitative.

mircea_popescu: and i've yet to meet a rich dude who had kids for which i'd pay to own what he paid to build.

mircea_popescu: also, if your spare time is not monetizable you are not a person and don't belong. i don't mean here, i mean living, at all. #1 reason to off self.

mircea_popescu: but this is just a different kind of -ev, no more.

mircea_popescu: yeah, there are exceptions, such as notably "trainer items". you can buy sportscar kits these days for instancer, so rich kids can graduate from getting lego set for 6th birthday to getting a carbox on their 16th. by the time they get it together they have a permit too.

mircea_popescu: if i don't have to know anything specific about you, it's not a restaurant, it's a diner ; it's not a tailor, it's a pret a porter ; and it's not a skillful product, it's an item that's not worth building.

mircea_popescu: it doesn't say "all beings" , it says "all comers". they come on their own power, they're comers.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everything that is OFFERED, to all comers, to "make themselves" is, definitionally, industrializable.

mircea_popescu: no. true universally.

mircea_popescu: at-home subsidizing. though in modernity that function is mostly covered by the inca.

mircea_popescu: generally this "Finish at home" thing is very much related to fan extraction (as per http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/#selection-73.120-73.157 ) in the sense that only items which are not actually ev are offered in this way.

mircea_popescu: of building badly designed pet projects that didn't work irl but were reported to workl anyway ? o yeah.

mircea_popescu: not like the only fucking reason we even bother with math is that UNLIKE reality, it allows for large empty spaces.

mircea_popescu: also crypto QED so there is that.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're missing the point -- maybe there's other people on the ocean you sail on, but on the ocean alf's boat would sail on there's nobody. that's why he's even doing this, to "put distance". this can be had for the asking, because really, world wouldn't fucking dare not satisfy such perfectly reasonable request.

mircea_popescu: lol check out where the political discussion was actually to be found. alf wants the elements to enlist in tmsr, help behead empire.

mircea_popescu: well, you know the phase heat of water, so...

mircea_popescu: oh, you only wanted to sail for months ? i had nfi.

mircea_popescu: god help tyou if your makeshift item catches an arctic storm.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz you want to save in linens by keeping the womenz naked which means tropical waters.

mircea_popescu: the principal advantage of the garbage raft is that the broken outer cells (and they will break) provide a sort of damming for the inner cells. might be worth money, this.

mircea_popescu: every teen female starts life with this mindset, sure.

mircea_popescu: in all fields, whoever pays rent is the poor man.

mircea_popescu: "hey, baby, what you doin' sat night ? wanna come to YACHT ?!?!" she's more likely to break her pomodoro dinner date to go on a yacht than vice versa. then it's a "well, i'm horny and there's only one dick here, i guess i like this guy. else i'm a whore. i'm totally not a whore though, so i really like him."

mircea_popescu: cuz the poor man's mating strategy includes a "cop", which wortks by rarity, and an "isolate", which the ocean makes available.

mircea_popescu: i turn down more invitations to yacht!!! than i accept, by a large margin, and if i go it's cuz the girls and little more. who the fuck in his right mind wants to be on the ocean idly like that. island ++ lawds have mercy.

mircea_popescu: dude i wouldn't give less of a shit, for all i care every two bit social worker case can make a pile of garbage / empty bottles and go sailing into the sunset. what's it to me ?

mircea_popescu: ferroconcrete deals with wind. plastic reinforced in the (expensive!) manner you describe might very well lose adherence because too much variance between the plastic and the spines, you'll end up with it being raked, practicvally. which is the point of the lens cement comment -- you must have VERY CLOSE materials. lest the mix gets warm or something.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're taking a child's view of water. it's not the fucking proofing that's at issue, is structural problems induced by having a force vectror that's substantial, constant, and randomly changing direction. that's why metal excels, it can take random load like that. plastic can't. wood soprt-of can, maybe.

mircea_popescu: a boat a certain size has a certain mass. this is not related to anything else.

mircea_popescu: which is also why whenever the boat is intended to stay unattended in blue water for mn seconds sort of thing, it's always metal.

mircea_popescu: just consider the sad circumstance that you don't like x because of y property you happen to have heard of ; but you have no clue z has problem p. as a for instance, nobody seems to have ever mentuioned to you that plastic boats have a very fixed "open sea" time. and if you knew what it was you wouldn't like it. which is why rich people still buy wood yachts for pleasure.