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mircea_popescu: doesn't nevertheless mean it ain't in the plan.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:40:58 trinque: I'm just glad to hear it's still on teh conveyor
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934395 << it always was, dood. just because people don't customarily engage in what he's exactly right to call sinful, by reason of being so premature as to necessarily be doomed to stating idiocy,
mircea_popescu: 're used to, what they expect, what they need. what, you think inca makes sense ? inca dun make fucking sense, a competition in sense with inca's fucking nonsense. the competition's in tupeu, and ain't gonna nobody have more of that than us.
mircea_popescu: in any case, to re-reiterate : go out there and ~make~ them buy. ~MAKE~. "this is the thing, you must buy it". trebuie sa intelegi ca, what theyr
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:40:32 asciilifeform: whole thread nearly borders on sin, given as almost anyffin i say on the subj is likely to be catastrophically wrong.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe this 5`001st reitreration is how things finally click in the castrated brain. YO! YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR FRIENDS! GO FORCE THE IDIOTS TO BUY!
mircea_popescu inserts by reference the 5k threads on pizarro, "hey why the fuck aren't you out there pounding the world".
mircea_popescu: b) SELL IT to them. forcibly. i do mean, at the point of the sword, rape them with it.
mircea_popescu: the correct decoupling is here : a) make what needs to be made, according to ~US~. nobody asks the fuck shitheads derpingabout anything
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:34:28 trinque: I'd just want to know who we're selling to. ourselves isn't enough
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934384 << yet all the good stuff that exists (i mean this in the most absoluely generall sense -- ALL of it) exists cuz we made it for ourselves.
mircea_popescu: peering cages see maybe 2**15, and that's the very core of the internet.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:33:53 asciilifeform: a gb nic can theoretically swallow 2**18 512b packets / sec .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934382 << practical network rates are more in the 1k/s or threabouts, certainly if sustained. 2*18 is not seen even in dedicated interchanges.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:24:24 trinque: the republic can't live correctly and expect folks to line up. the world's too far gone. money has to whip around in republic-shaped loops long enough to retrain enough human heads.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934368 << how are these two at odds ?
mircea_popescu: always has, too.
mircea_popescu: mpex seat for ~value of usg "senator" wasn't some kinda idiosyncratic joke. it's how the future works.
mircea_popescu: that's your market identification right there, it's identified : i want to buy the washington monument for pennies. they'll sell it, as they have to, because they're old.
mircea_popescu: that's how economy works at the scale here discussed, "and if you don't like it, get ready for valleyforge -- if you got it in you".
mircea_popescu: "this is your tea ; your spices ; your golden fruit. eat them, like them, pay $$$ for them so we can turn around and use that to rape your daughters / evict you from your pastures / etc"
mircea_popescu: what, you think people went to indonesia looking for what europeans might've wanted ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:22:57 trinque: I wouldn't propose building the thing without first identifying the market.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:16:06 asciilifeform: aha. tho presently i doubt that it's physically possible to make a 4096x4096b multiplier converge in <1ns
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934352 << this, actually, may be the thing that eventually fixes rsa keysizes for us, when we're finally there.
mircea_popescu: once that's done, i expect it'll be expensive but not untouchable. bout same as a house.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:09:45 trinque: even as prosthetic, not whole comp
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934341 << the iron peh costs, currently, excavating minds from asses.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is the "oh, mp, here, forth!" answer when one asks ? what, "oh, but mp, i meant comfortable in the sense of exactly opposite of comfort, because i subscribe to imperial nominative conventions, everything's gonna be called the opposite of what it actually
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:05:19 asciilifeform: on e.g. x86, a forth complete enuff that you could comfortably live the rest of your life in it, weighs about 1kB.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934326 << inexplicably remains that you don't.
mircea_popescu: chuck fucking max and tucker fucking moore, the famous tards of buried lands.
mircea_popescu: until then, he's just another dicklet, equally capable of fame as any other item, which is to say precisely 0.
mircea_popescu: chuck moore can be famous when he meets the bar to existence. when you can fucking LINK to the god damned "famous" things.
mircea_popescu: but i guarantee you if we actually reviewed the matter, it'd turn out to be exactly the same pile of mothridden useless dried out smegma all these other boi-"famous" turds ever turn out to be.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-19 16:01:57 phf: asciilifeform: i have no issues with unfriendliness of your approach or it's secret busting nature. i'm trying different approach, and so far our success is identical in that it's 0. we're at a point where our mutual approaches can benefit, yet you deny me mine, periodically insulting it in creative ways.
mircea_popescu: chuck moore had ~supposedly~. allegedly. in that manner, like danielpbarron has god and like usa has prosperity -- if you don't look too closely.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934319 << not fucking famously. let me show you how famously works, in reality. "mircea popescu had, famously, naked bitches at his beck and call". that's ~famous~.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care if they become things or not -- but i'd much rather not be asked to foot the bill for their becoming. let them do the work themfuckingselves, which is why i say : piggybacking even more stupid shit atop a tower of stupid shit we're allegedly trying to clean up is... well ? it's stupid!
mircea_popescu: forth is not a thing. lisp is not a thing. on in this vein.
mircea_popescu: which takes us full circle : c is a thing because linux, and for as long as and inasmuch as linux. linux is a thing because apache / webservers. for as long and inasmuch etcetera.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 02:45:45 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934254 << i think there's so much shame / self-loathing necessarily (and, for that matter, correctly) naturally associated by the mind with leaving here, i dinf it unsurprising dudes leave quietly.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:41:37 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934003 << this is I think the subcurrent here.
mircea_popescu: so -- sure, you like her, dumb as she is, enslave her, make her into something, then we can talk. but, from experience, "enthusiasm" at this "make her into something" soon enough revolves to http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934274 and, if kept silent, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934487 also in short order.
mircea_popescu: legends about. and sure, maybe forth is conceptually interesting. but it's not a programming language anymore than any []http://trilema.com/2017/i-think-they-might-be-overdoing-it-in-places/[random impudent dicklet] "opinions" on things.
mircea_popescu: and just so, "great lang" that does nothing IS nothing.
mircea_popescu: a dude in his 30s without millions (plural) and slavegirls (plural) can have all the "potential" in his own mind / esteemed estimation of his fucktarder & impoverished peers. not a person. because that's table antes for personhood, forget about it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why this is obvious for people, but not obvious for concepts. a dead notion, such as "a great language nobody does anything useful in", be it lisp ~called~, forth, whatever the fuck, is just as much a language as harappan.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:00:33 asciilifeform: i'm not about to ask folx to learn it tho ( asciilifeform in fact quite fond of forth, and used extensively. but i also recognize that to most people utterly 'martian' )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934318 << nevermind "martian". the table ante for this discussion is "perfectly functioning webserver with two decades history of the same". if it dun have that, it's not a fucking thing.
mircea_popescu: and so following. basically, php's been coopted into the tower of binaries.
mircea_popescu: P/php-4.4.8.tar.bz2][actual weightlifter] long gave up the ghost
mircea_popescu: in any case, the net's been thoroughly scrubbed : http://il.php.net/get/php-4.4.8.tar.bz2/from/us.php.net/mirror no longer works (they even redirected the old /get/ directory to the manual now) ; the downloads studiously only includes the (entirely useless) 7 series. even lulzy spamsites a la http://www.oldapps.com/php_programming_language.php?old_php=13 are dead (the frontend works, but the [http://download.oldapps.com/PH
mircea_popescu: i guess i ate a semicolon up there. but anyways -- no, none of this shit actually exists.
mircea_popescu: ites" -- most ofwhich dun even have imap, but even the oens that nomionally do : http://mirror.internet.tp/imap/ is dead, etc)
mircea_popescu: (to give out the full helping of lulz : as far as anyone knows, mod_php doesn't even exist. the cannonical repository sports a lulzily empty link ; the backup is our old friends' myspace, wherein the source is given as ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap which, needless to say, doesn't resolve. nor do the "mirror s
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934315 << yes dude, but when ~i~ was curious the result came as "depends what you count". extend the same courtesy wtf.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 21:34:37 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-09-03#1933478 << recently I torched my whole wad of elisp, got fed up with setting the dials on someone else's machine "just so" and calling the "just so" mine.
mircea_popescu: some things elementary can't even be. what'd a mod_lisp be like, and how would it differ from http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 ? i expect the answer is "it differs -- in all the wrong ways".
mircea_popescu: there's ~PRETENSE~ to everything ; very much no tthe same thing at all as actual ising
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:59:52 trinque: the existence of mod_php isn't much of an argument either. there's mod_everything
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934316 << if this were true he'd have been using mod_python instead of flask.
mircea_popescu: way the fuck better way to spend one's time than wanking over apple, in any case. and besides -- that's not even a v tree!
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the philosophical implications of alternative-human-blockchain (which it is, yes, and which was LONG needed, hence all the 2013-era discussions of bitcoin alien inhumanity on trilema) -- this'll readily permit us to bezzle match the empire, because people can watch their investments appreciate here jsut as well as there.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
mircea_popescu: to close the larger point here : if we figure out a workable way to do the above, this will then necessarily ~monetize the patchchains~, resulting in fixed capital value for all existing chains based on their future-royalty value.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:34:11 trinque: eh "this morning's experiments" don't appear to be on a blog or otherwise documented
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:56:19 asciilifeform: trinque: i went to look at what is php made from ( given all the prodding by mircea_popescu ) and seems to weigh at least as much as the python toolchain
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934312 << how did you counht ? to reiterate the http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934257 point.
mircea_popescu: i think that just about covers it, hopefully.
mircea_popescu: (perfectly acceptable for logger part of bot to consist of simply updating article in mpwp-posts, tagged as "logs" category, have one for each day. mp-wp will do the rest.)
mircea_popescu: (ftr, this being a purely apache job, i do expect to see flask and crap taken out ; but othrweise no problem having actual channel sitting bot in python, doesn't hafta be rewritten or anything like that.)
mircea_popescu thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
mircea_popescu: ft on what will be trilema.org get posted to trilema.com instead, and that's that).
mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that comments le
mircea_popescu: except with also excerpt consisting of prefix / suffix one dozen words around each search term, separated by [...] magic string) as html files (date-time-terms.html) in a special /<botname>-search directory ; and b) takes irc trackbacks, to any article from trilema mentioned in the logs,
mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
mircea_popescu: but since we're here, let's actually use the infrastructure!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:51:08 trinque: heh, does this become an even better case for apache+php. "you only need it for search/comments/etc"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 21:49:11 asciilifeform: and that can search from www, without cluttering chans ( my bot doesn't do PM and i intend to keep it that way )
mircea_popescu: these people are fucked in the head, what the fuck.
BingoBoingo: The other common trap here on listing prices is they'll list what they want to walk away with and paying that leaves a balance with the banco hipotecario
BingoBoingo: Here's another way the fuck too proud pricing on a potential "INSTITUTO CULTURAL O DE ENSEÑANZA": https://archive.is/2lmyw
mircea_popescu: for everyone else, it'd be a concentration camp. but for the inmates -- it's home.
BingoBoingo: Filtering out stuff like that place is a part of the notes cleaning. The other part is shit that was at an interesting price point for the location selling.
mircea_popescu: i expect they're going to incrementally improve on trotskysm cinematruck / rooseveltism "uber eats", just have a truck visit with supplies weekly.
mircea_popescu: lotta that 1950s-80s warmbody storage zones in south america
BingoBoingo: Great location if all you care about is pointing all the antennas at the Spanish embassy, but otherwise... residential desert
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Cursed bulding. retarded past occupants as per: "La propiedad estuvo alquilada hasta el 2016 por el Banco IDRC (International Divelopment Reserch Center) entidad Canadiense que hizo todas las prestaciones para los niveles de calidad que este tipo de empresa necesita, tanto a nivel de seguridad como de comodidades para trabajar, respetando el Patrimonio Histórico de la casa principal."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have only Home Depot knowlede of how buildings age which overlaps poorly with the local stock of buildings here
mircea_popescu: haha old building, huh. those can be nightmareish if poorly built.
BingoBoingo: Any less than 18 and no way a cleaning rotation is covering that place
BingoBoingo: Anyways if there were 40+ warm bodies and a desire to stot I'd suggest https://archive.is/uYcck
diana_coman: I'd love to.
mircea_popescu: something's gotta be done about that, too, i dun recall right off but there's however many six figure dubaloos stuck there since last decade
mircea_popescu: maybe that's the right move here, transform the badly mismanaged foundation, have it start a college.
diana_coman: and yes, I'd much rather do that!