asciilifeform: (similar to how 'bitnodes' does)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw my current hypothesis is that recent phoundation turds balk at node which refuses to BIP-14

asciilifeform not relishing the perspective of attempting building and running that thing

asciilifeform: ah hm

asciilifeform: that thing is ~7MB ~zipped~

asciilifeform: is what i meant.

asciilifeform: was half its size now

asciilifeform: mno ?

asciilifeform: could've sworn there was half again as much of it last i looked

asciilifeform finally broke down and went to look for the mythical 'RejectNonSatanicNode()' in enemy https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src . what a shitnest !

asciilifeform: one can always 'eatblock' the thing.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: inbound also did not and still does not work reliably

asciilifeform: somehow.

asciilifeform: anyway i discover to my surprise that the thing has been synced all this time.

asciilifeform: but that's lame

asciilifeform: hence when i said '2 day outage'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, what did you think i did before.

asciilifeform: on this box

asciilifeform: punkman: the wallet has never been fired

asciilifeform: aaaaaand we're back to black hole hell

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it must be in yours only

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we haven't got this flag

asciilifeform: typical.

asciilifeform: kill-9, restarted, now wedged at 'Loading block index...'

asciilifeform: better than fr ?

asciilifeform: that's a new one.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: (suspect that phoundation 0.10+ misbehaves vis a vis 'classic' nodes)

asciilifeform: i have a working hypothesis concerning something other than leprous backbone, but it needs moar test

asciilifeform: (of own creation)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didntcha have the same issue on own node ?

asciilifeform: could mean a leprosied blockchain and two day-long outage

asciilifeform trying to restart node on dulap, bitcoin won't even eat SIGTERM

asciilifeform: now - not certain

asciilifeform: i formerly thought this, also

asciilifeform confused

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: everywhere these remoras, who want to play without playing

asciilifeform: or else why talking

asciilifeform: i often wonder, any reason not to banhammer folks who won't accept connectback at 8333? if you wanna speak, get out from behind that nat, and be a full node ?

asciilifeform: ^ zombie world

asciilifeform: connect() failed after select(): No route to host

asciilifeform: trying connection 79.244.125.206:8333 lastseen=-41.2hrs lasttry=-20.3hrs

asciilifeform: connect() failed after select(): Connection refused

asciilifeform: trying connection 195.182.134.21:8333 lastseen=-44.0hrs lasttry=-22.6hrs

asciilifeform: connect() failed after select(): Connection refused

asciilifeform: trying connection 108.61.68.152:8333 lastseen=-40.8hrs lasttry=-20.6hrs

asciilifeform: shinohai: 'someone' is supplying a valuable massage service

asciilifeform: http://bitcoinist.net/going-soft-porn-officially-banned-india << poor indiancandy

asciilifeform: zoolag and incitatus at 368648, 52 and 33 connections respectively, functioning normally.

asciilifeform: 'getinfo' from 24 hours ago, ~still~ hanging.

asciilifeform: in other nyooz, dulap ~STILL~ blackholed

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and iirc he's this dour german engineer fella stuck in northeast usa somewhere.

asciilifeform: )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he was talking about the failure-to-deallocate thing. (and slept through the threads where the hypothetical structure of a sane mempool was discussed

asciilifeform: wai wut

asciilifeform: granted, this could take a while.

asciilifeform: good riddance.

asciilifeform: the folks who pick the former over the latter - get darwined, like the spv morons are now in the process of;

asciilifeform: 'this one takes ten minutes per but is run by a fella i know alive'

asciilifeform: as in, 'this pool is a millisecond faster but runs gavinized soup'

asciilifeform: sanity.

asciilifeform: don't forget the other variable:

asciilifeform: diminishing returns

asciilifeform: decimation: how much would you personally pay to shave a millisecond of latency ?

asciilifeform: at a certain point, the only real use of mining will be collect tx fees

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: mining as we know it does not exactly select for folks who rationally weigh roi

asciilifeform: never even to consider it

asciilifeform: likewise, for 99% of them it would be rational to never mine at all

asciilifeform: yet they do.

asciilifeform: then again, it would also be rational for them not to fucktardedly 'spv'

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: or i can go to a store.

asciilifeform: i can find 'nice' food on the forest floor.

asciilifeform: how he pays, was not yet determined afaik

asciilifeform: (the most lucrative-per-byte tx-en)

asciilifeform: miner pays to access the top of the sorted mempool

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: ('in-band' doesn't really feature an explicit provision for this kind of dealing)

asciilifeform: well yes, they pay out of band

asciilifeform: and miners pay to access the cream of tx cache

asciilifeform: decimation: mircea_popescu's idea was to have it be precisely by miner fee

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: blackholed.

asciilifeform: dulap ~still~ blackholes

asciilifeform: in related nyooz,

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-08-2015#1222794 << that one ☝︎

asciilifeform: decimation: see the thread with mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/nasa-must-pay-russia-490-million-because-congress-wont-fund-trips-to-space << lulz ☟︎

asciilifeform: n6: might wanna speak to trinque when he wakes up

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al ^ qntra ?

asciilifeform: n6: 'emerge'

asciilifeform: '"There were real issues with the operational wisdom of the program, and those who were to conduct the mission were sure that whomever thought this up was using bad hemp."'

asciilifeform: vice versa

asciilifeform: wouldn't be surprised if it is the same part.

asciilifeform: sounds like my washing machine.

asciilifeform: ampoule.

asciilifeform: acid in glass lives forever

asciilifeform: what shelf life.