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thestringpuller: but I dunno how much anyone really trusts coinbase
ben_vulpes: it's been a decent tool for hacking mud, that's about all i know.
mats_cd03: i'm still learning how docker works, though, so if i'm wrong here people should chime in and tell me so
ben_vulpes: i'm getting the gist.
mats_cd03: hope i'm making sense here... still haven't had coffee yet.
mats_cd03: i forget the rest.
mats_cd03: LXC has been battle tested for a few years. containers, decades. seccomp is available in the LXC driver, but not in libcontainer. so, the same risks as before -- arbitrary execution of kernel code. leaking to other containers, lack of fine-grained access to devices (in the works, i belieb)
ben_vulpes: just a few years ago i was building wafer hosts - there is much i don't know about websec.
ben_vulpes: i guess at a high level stupid solution to stupid problems.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, mats_cd03: ease of dependency management, resource isolation, cognitive overhead. i'm dumb and have to deal with crazy complex legacy shit that's most expediently put into 'containers for poor and time constrained engineers'.
kakobrekla: i was like is ascii telling me something in binary and i have to guess the first bit ??
CryptoKitten: I thought if I grouped this nick in nickserv gribble might link their auth status, but that was probably ambitious.
kakobrekla: I DID NOT!
CryptoKitten: hrm.. I am authed
CryptoKitten: kakobrekla: yea I noticed that worked out for me well
kakobrekla: anyway Adlai if its newcomers asking for up politely, i dont see why not.
Adlai: right, the next question was whether i want to up pm spammers
Adlai: but i'm not a trading bot
Adlai: if i'd wanted comeback i'd have asked your mother to spit in a cup
Adlai: my main reason for using kraken for developement is their minimum order size of 0.01 euro, which means i can risk a lot less capital
Adlai: no. so that's the AUM of all scalpl instances which i have configured myself, but i highly doubt that there are any others.
RagnarDanneskjol: again - I just deconstruct these things for research/amusement purposes.. no plans to 'do anything' with code really. I have a day job that keeps my too busy, any fre time is for ma doggies
Adlai: i'm hoping to have scalpl as usable as the average unix utility by the end of the month
RagnarDanneskjol: i reverse engineer code mostly, find out what makes it tick.. thats about the extent of my interest in the coding world. I'm an rf hardware guy
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm cool. kind of weird I'm the only one who's forked scalpl to date... thought it would be a lot moar popular by now
Adlai: http://github.com/sykopomp/sheeple <- most nicest work i've done. syko and i stopped working on it because we thought nobody would ever actually use it, turns out today several people are using it "professionally"
RagnarDanneskjol: i se that. who else is using scalpl to yor knowledge?
Vexual: yes i remember this now
Adlai: btw if i haven't spammed it at you yet, i'm working on http://github.com/adlai/scalpl if this is the kind of thing that interests you
Vexual: it seems i'm indentured
Vexual: kakobrekla: I thought you banned me proper
RagnarDanneskjol: heh - guy asks for +v, how can i say no
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> through which metaphore i am suggesting, of course, that coders are whores and money is a penis. << btc today, equity in thing of value mebbe tomorrow...
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: I feel safer running good ole Microsoft Xenix
mats_cd03: i don't know if it does, thats a good question
BingoBoingo: Yes, I played with SOlaris zones and dtrace in 2004 on shitty computer lab printer
Maryjane: I thought it was fascinating how such an intelligent strange person didn't like to feel clean. Lol.
decimation: lol wittgenstein designed a house in Vienna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haus_Wittgenstein "I am not interested in erecting a building, but in [...] presenting to myself the foundations of all possible buildings." —Ludwig Wittgenstein[4]
Maryjane: Bees. He didn't like to bathe. I recall him saying "I like to stink. :)"
Maryjane: I felt like sisyphus at my last job. But lifting 50lbs for 14 hrs isn't jolly work. Every time I grabbed one box there was another.
asciilifeform: i often refer to folks doing what sisyphus did, as 'syzzing'
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2014 03:17:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams.
decimation: yeah, I guess I can see that. one would be more fustrated with the kid who seems to be able to get it, not the kid who is on the short bus
mircea_popescu: i found teaching idiots (literally, 70ish iq) a lot easier and more palatable than teaching "normal" kids.
decimation: I suspect that the impedence mismatch between his brain and the dull schoolboy's was too much to properly match
mircea_popescu: i gotta say i love decimation's notion of time.
decimation: I read the wrong year, born 1889 in veinna
mircea_popescu: i thought he was a swede.
decimation: wittgenstein too, although he was austrian I think
mircea_popescu: decimation not even what i had in mind. i think i ruined someone's life with frege earlier in the logs.
BingoBoingo: But I dunno why anyone would go for a recent frame
asciilifeform: low-pressure by design, if i recall, yes.
decimation: I heard from a fellow who was in charge of trying to duplicate german paint technology post-wwii. they were amazed to find german railcars painted 10 years earlier that looked new
decimation: I have distant ancestors who lived in odessa, they were invited by Catherine the Great
BingoBoingo: I saw enemy at the gate...
decimation: lol I love government-hosted warez
decimation: the germans in the us were basically cowed by the english into giving up their past so that they wouldn't be suspect during ww I&II
decimation: I've only read slaugherhouse five, I'll have to pick that up
decimation: vonnegut was pissed that his father failed to bring him up in German culture, and dropped him in "one language English only" americanism << "But no, absolutely not – it was almost perverse, I think, that my father would cut me off from the past in such a way. And I think Germans are the most American of all people; [Dwight D.] Eisenhower was as American as a McDonald’s hamburger." http://www.hanknuwer.com/vonnegut.html
decimation: heh yeah I half expected the book to end with the man dying at the end of the sights of a Terran space-marine
decimation: BingoBoingo: oh you mean the book duh. I like cylinder 22
asciilifeform: i'd love a container-2.
BingoBoingo: Where do I get a cylinder #5?
mircea_popescu: i... beg your pardon ?!
decimation: I liked "the wasp", it was amusing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> 'if i get 8 inches of crystalline unobtainium armour, i must be important' << Shhh stop talking about my tent
decimation: as I recall, the leaders of those who overthrew the czar immediately began using his fancy boats, palaces, etc for their own private benefit because "they were for the people"
asciilifeform: 'if i get 8 inches of crystalline unobtainium armour, i must be important'
decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect for the second half that they don't think of themselves as evil - they think that those who would wish them ill as evil. they are just trying to do good, you see - they are just "in the loop"
asciilifeform: i'd say, half of it is 'the boot stamping on the human face forever' - sheer pleasure in herding the peasants, sticking finger into their anthills,
decimation: asciilifeform: I've seen lafayette park closed just for 'quitting time' for white house people to walk away without having to touch the smelly tourists
decimation: I suspect that you had every legal right to walk right past that secret service uniformed guy closing lafayette park
decimation: I would like to see a us attorney defend that to a judge
asciilifeform: this was the first i ever saw one alive.
decimation: asciilifeform: I have witnessed similar 'convoys' in wash dc. It's amusing to see how the "sovereign people" are so easily herded away from public areas
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff << Disolve in vegetable oil, emulsify with albumin, condiment that passes spec in Ohio
decimation: asciilifeform: I was speaking with a fellow who had to rube-goldberg engineer a crazy 'biologic' breakdown system for mustard gas, because the envirocultists refused to allow simple incineration of the stuff
mircea_popescu: PeterL: how does assbot make money? << occasional donations i guess
mircea_popescu: on my way to school in jr high (i walked, bout a mile) i went on a road that went by the medical school's campus' crematorium
asciilifeform: main danger, as i understand, is that their combustion will: create a visible plume of smoke. or, the ultimate catastrophe, 'auschwitzy' smell. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 500 lb. body causes fire at Henrico crematory << one time i spent an evening reading cremator manuals (for no particular reason. happened to stroll by a modern crematory on evening walk in new street, was curious.) every manufacturer has special instructions for the peculiarly fat 'clients.' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it goes on a cock by cock basis, i tell you!
mircea_popescu: through which metaphore i am suggesting, of course, that coders are whores and money is a penis.
decimation: heh unfortunately no " Key, I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause."
BingoBoingo: I just file support tickets and frontline support derps about how they don't see a DOS
BingoBoingo: Dayjobs I guess do weird things to people
BingoBoingo: I miss his troll persistence though.
decimation: yeah I'm not interested in redhat7 for that reason
mircea_popescu: dude i dun see it. so guy did some work at some point, then got busy or w/e, dropped the code
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's gone rogue? But not friendly to us. I think something about pete jsut rubs him the wrong way.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I miss having pankkake on our side <<< which side is he now ?
PeterL: sorry about the spam, I'll get it working in a different channel
PeterL: hmm, that didn't work like I wanted, bleh
decimation: I don't see so much evil behind what redhat/poettering is doing as much as just steering the boat toward their interests
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Nah, I don't have plans.
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: i still can't get to logs
kakobrekla: i was just going to assimilate it into assbot but go ahead :)
PeterL: ok, I think I can get all that in
PeterL: bingoboingo, I've almost got a replacement for penguiker ready
ben_vulpes: so i'm not a a c professional by any stretch of the mind - where do the obj/*.o files come from?