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the_scourge: from personal experience, it's so fucking annoying though the best of us could only last a short while on the inside
asciilifeform: the_scourge: as a boy i was fond of reading ungodly quantities of ww2 minutiae. and i remember marvelling that the luftwaffe had to pay xxx reichsmarks, for, e.g., a v2 rocket. 'why did nazis have to pay for things,' i asked.
the_scourge: there is a lot you can learn about finance by signing up to be a uniformed tough guy for one of the big two, with your head already fully unplugged
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the post-slavetriangle use of said shells is a reasonably proven fact
the_scourge: because they're brainwashed into supporting a certain nation (the issuer)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a word in your ear about "cowrie shells" : it is possible they were ever used for money. it is also possible libertard anthropologists created the pious fraud of "retarded non-white peoples also have some semblance of intelligence".
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but why does a particular army demand to be paid in one thing and not another ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: what's the secondary use for a benjamin? cocaine straw ?
the_scourge: nothing has ever been monetized successfully that couldn't be turned into swords or necklaces or circuitboards or compressors (or eaten but i'm going back a ways now)
ben_vulpes: <chetty> [] email that actually sends what you want and nothing else would be a worthy project :) << gnus, part of emacs, has worked for probably longer than i've been alove
ben_vulpes: <punkman> [] there's this robocaller that waits for me to pick up the phone and say something, pauses for a short time, then says "Goodbye" and hangs up. << calling to find people who pick up
the_scourge: right so translation helped. and i knew there was a reason i still keep a urxvt instance running, even though it's horribly bloated
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the_scourge: to be honest i just did the studies to get away from computers for a few hours a day.... also to answer the big questions in life
the_scourge: and for education... fuck that seems like a long time ago but among other things i did a masters in ancient philosophy, languages and regilion. studied greek and aramaic and history as well
mircea_popescu: the_scourge what do you do for a living, and what sort of education do you have basically.
the_scourge: for a bunch of scottish guys to buy their porridge with... really?
trinque: was talking with someone the other day about how the american system of govt is a shattered sovereign
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if a leprous beggar could rent out space in his necrotic arsehole by the hour, to several clients in parallel, why wouldn't he
mircea_popescu: very good summary of a lot of problems.
trinque: thestringpuller: its like a fractured version of central economic planning
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is too much serial raising of funds. like its a mental illness or something.
mircea_popescu: generally you send assbot !up in a pm
mircea_popescu: trinque a cool
thestringpuller: so will raising VC capital soon be viewed as a negative sign for a company
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the_scourge: er apparently having a 1 isn't good enough to give it away
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asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella, presently
ben_vulpes: over a thousand log lines
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't particularly mind gavin trying to create a scamcoin, nor whatever "public oppinion" support he may muster.
mircea_popescu: you can always derive a profit by attacking unmonetized goods, or rather ; by exploiting the false claim of anyone putting forth an unmonetized good as money.
the_scourge: right, but for the issue at present: POW will always be vulnerable to hardness attacks, because there are bad?unlikeable?big? people in the world who can do a lot of work and ruin the fun for everyone, even if we ignore their fork of the chain. btc got very lucky in that it slipped under the radar, but that will never happen again in history. the wardens have been alerted
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/
asciilifeform: but in a rather different way
asciilifeform: (possible criminal complaint if you don't pay, and referred to collections apparatus as a civil debt)
chetty: riiight, and I am sure he will now be a good boy
asciilifeform: more like a traffic violation (with bigger numbers) than a criminal matter
asciilifeform: chetty: iirc he was fined in a civil court
chetty: well last I heard he was a convict, so I guess we know who is greasing his palm
the_scourge: a victoria cross ... omg
mircea_popescu: chetty perhaps once stalin gave him a license ?
chetty: when did Erik Voorhees get to be a 'VC' ?
the_scourge: admittedly, that last one consists of 'shit that already exists' - small unit tactics. but a lot of it is high-tech and needs work
the_scourge: ok, so other than the microscope paper (which is a bit high-level) what exactly can/should/could be done with bitcoin itself? why not just skip to working on the other stuff and let the existing bitcoin maintainers work out their shit. there are plenty of people who oppose the foundation already
mircea_popescu: im neither. i'm a fucking guelph. that's a white flag you see behind, and the battle is for imperial immediacy not bs.
the_scourge: wanting to undo the new deal and sufferage etc only makes you a slightly redder republican, or a backbencher tory
mircea_popescu: jurov o splendid, i got a mod notice and everything. i like how this works.
the_scourge: 20th century? a bit myopic? otherwise i agree
mircea_popescu: you can also stick a fork in "representative democracy" equally done.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: right, i was talking about the world at large. you can stick a fork in journalistic integrity, it's done
mircea_popescu: <the_scourge> like we're back in a weird 'sleuth and journalist > public opinion' game which was lost a LONG time ago << public opinion only matters in fiat backed worlds.
assbot: A new software licensing paradigm pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2vwAL )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/ <
the_scourge: ok, but public opinion will determine who uses what version/implementation of bitcoind, and a seed node can be packaged with said distribution
the_scourge: which, the seed nodes would be a good vector for such a thing
the_scourge: well i take it your goal is to prevent nefarious hijacking of bitcoind, done in such a way that everyone upgrades and long after it is realized that the network is resultingly compromised?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you will find that one of the more interesting ideas we run with in #b-a is that public opinion isn't a particularly interesting concept re: bitcoin
the_scourge: like we're back in a weird 'sleuth and journalist > public opinion' game which was lost a LONG time ago
the_scourge: i've given it my long key id... it says invalid (so quickly i have a hard time believing it even did a search)
the_scourge: i'm being a mong with this !register command
asciilifeform: if it is in there after all - i'd appreciate a pointer.
asciilifeform: or, at the very least, i was not able to find such a description
asciilifeform: the_scourge: if, say, it were a random selection
the_scourge: why would they select such a node? surely no reason other than "this operator is keeping up to date" would need to be given
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but i was digging for proof that a) there are < 0.8 nodes in the candidate list b) none were selected
mircea_popescu: it's not me trying to build a parallel, closed universe.
asciilifeform: there is (optionally) message body; then, for each attachment, there is a detached-sig
mircea_popescu: you get a hash of the file and an explanation of purpose in the signed attachment, seems reasonable ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: turdatron, as originally built, expects a pattern like this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html
mircea_popescu: anyway, explain to me like i'm slow, there's a problem with the thing as presented ?
asciilifeform: turdatron wants a machine-readable standalone sig (just the --pgp-- block) for every attachment.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like your post was originally rejected by turdatron because it did not contain a machine-readable signature for the tarball
asciilifeform: chetty: a good many otherwise well-informed, educated folks in late ussr could not name very many muppets either
trinque: how hard is it to pick a favorite color out of two?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: not long ago, kakobrekla finished a rework of wot. so there are a few hiccups
the_scourge: oh wait, i've only set up my gpg key, do i need to associate a bitcoin address as well?
the_scourge: assbot is a liar
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'sparkfun corp.' sells a lte simcard good for 6 months, ~80 usd
the_scourge: do the russians make LTE hotspots? they've started making smartphones with e-ink, but it's a shame i didn't hear about it until after i went off of smartphones entirely
the_scourge: also, north america sometimes. but right now i just need a UK dongle that has chinese backdoors instead of american
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, i dreamed up a new licensing model which teh foundation and us generally might wish to consdier.
the_scourge needs to get LTE of some kind but is a bit of a nutter about that kinda shit
jurov: mircea_popescu: the email is out, after a bugfix (to account for application/pgp mimetype properly)
asciilifeform: the telco drops anything at all coming your way that isn't part of a tcp connection you established earlier
the_scourge: and sadly i was on a VERY VERY VERY large very flat network with more class A IPs than ... almost any other entity on the planet. and lots of buggy ssdp routers all over the place 'cause of the (phys) architecture
the_scourge: this is a paying client. even though everything pointed to me being targeted, i still didn't want to make more noise than i already had
asciilifeform: you end up with, at best, a statistical sample
the_scourge: they brought a wireshark dump over to my desk
asciilifeform: but that's what makes it a dos
asciilifeform: it is actually a bit hard to take a proper capture of ddos (as in, all or even most of the packets) with common equipment
the_scourge: but what's most interesting is the shape of the traffic and the packets... i was plugged into a sub-campus and it would appear that it was using dynamic discovery protocol over http for amplification (using any device that supports it)
the_scourge: and it was one of the more impressive ones i've ever seen, and i used to see top quality ones on a daily basis
asciilifeform: then ddoser took a vacation, it sorta vanished
the_scourge: need to put a warning about needing a cloak in this chan :)
asciilifeform: TomServo: can't recall such a thing
TomServo: Came across that looking for a tirade against the period - asciilifeform any help?