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mircea_popescu: i kinda suspect where bums sleep is indicative of societal notions
The20YearIRCloud: asciilifeform: is it that way around the world? I know it is here - bums everywhere at the library
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think that cost may be more than a few hundies a year.
bounce: thing is, I do want to filter the pool for the talent regardless of parental wealth
asciilifeform: i give the library tidbit as an example of what, in my mind, 'not living as rat' involves
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean it never is, i mean the noun is outside the domain of availability of the adjective. like a circle can't be heavy, 2d figures have no weight)
asciilifeform: i have to pay several 100 usd / yrs. to access library.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you;ll appreciate i didn't bring him up in the definition of "fuck you rich"
asciilifeform: lol i was beginning to think that diogenes was mentioned precisely because my 'best' is as odd as his was.
bounce: then I'll take bestest
undata: mircea_popescu: how does that describe what I've said, in your view?
The20YearIRCloud: TBH i can't remember what project you're involved in
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: to a very limited extent. (mircea_popescu insisted that i bill for the construction of the three-axis robotic platform for prototype assembly.)
undata: I do not
undata: mircea_popescu: I would never force anyone to live a certain way (provided it didn't encroach on my own) but I think it's essential to discuss ways to improve the art of living.
asciilifeform: even the comparatively smaller undertaking i'm presently engaged in - still doesn't come cheap. (i speak of the tooling which i have not charged to the piggy, but also of the fact that i cannot convert btc to usd even for those portions where expenses invoiced. as previously recounted here.)
mircea_popescu: i dun agree.
mircea_popescu: i mean, if your bar is that, then you'll never be happy. takes a lot of dough, that project.
asciilifeform: the particular species of projects i engage in. not sand castles out of cow shit in bangladesh.
mircea_popescu: punkman i can see it.
The20YearIRCloud: I know plenty that live self-less lives
undata: I am also confused.
punkman: well maybe I'd rather live around the guy that minds his own business, his business being his farm, rather than around guy that has neverending stream of "projects"
The20YearIRCloud: I wouldn't say every american is driven by greed
asciilifeform: if i can't afford projects, it isn't life.
mircea_popescu: i'm confused.
asciilifeform: this. is precisely what i meant by 'i refuse to live as a rat'
asciilifeform: i'm not sure i personally have ever held a day job which was a 'net gain for the motherland'
asciilifeform: i'd fear the mines if someone decreed that i must now generate wealth
mircea_popescu: i'll take your word for it, but it kinda sounds it.
jurov: i'd rather listen to 13yos than old farts
undata: these are precisely the americans I hope starve first when their bank accounts no longer work
mircea_popescu: well i dunno, seems to humiliate the kids.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the truck's all that good, looked like a guzzler.
asciilifeform: i.e. with baseball club.
wywialm: if you were interested in my thoughts on it, i could throw my 2 cents
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know. anyway, nothing public about all that yet.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall anything being publicly announced.
wywialm: mircea_popescu - but that's not static. do i miss anything?
wywialm: (of course i should have a decent model to obtain reliable deltas)
wywialm: do i miss anything?
wywialm: i could "sort-of-replicate" option payoff trading on a spot market, each day buying/selling according to the delta (the difference being transaction costs and interest rate and noncontinuity)
kakobrekla: heh JS, i recall some sites killing a core2 quad machine
wywialm: apart from dynamic hedging, where i could use only one
wywialm: mircea_popescu, quite well, but i don't see how can i use two linear instruments to obtain nonlinear payoff
punkman: I left namecheap search open in a tab and it crashed my browser, because javascript is awesome
asciilifeform: ;;later tell nubbins` if you have a trimmed bitcoind, kindly post somewhere where i can find it, i'd like to test run.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell nubbins`: if you have a trimmed bitcoind, kindly post somewhere where i can find it, i'd like to test run.
mircea_popescu: wywialm i supposew you could use the x.eur future ad interim
wywialm: i guess i'm the member of general public then...
wywialm: i will definitely consider that as soon as i will have anything valuable to say
wywialm: yes, i remember that
mircea_popescu: well to be perfectly fair, i had pre-deduced that last we met.
wywialm: i'm unfamiliar with that one
mircea_popescu: i thought eucalyptus sucked, as a five year old. and alcohol. and so on.
mircea_popescu: just as well, maybe. the same way, i think not.
asciilifeform: i understood that arbeit macht frei sucks as a five year old, just as well as now.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu You may want to consult someone who actually follows soccer though. I'll look into the stuff later, but I think actually playing in that league this year would have been possible
Vexual: i guess the whore
Vexual: i think we should get katy pery in here
mircea_popescu: i mean, there's land where "the indies" were supposed to be, too. that doesn't mean columbus found india.
mircea_popescu: <chetty> kakobrekla, matter of how much you like the foot? or the shoe .. <<< she has a point, i've seen women cut foot for prada heels.
mircea_popescu: so i submit the following bitbet problem to the group : http://bitbet.us/bet/861/raul-gonzalez-to-play-in-nasl/
Vexual: i've still got one in my leg
Vexual: i know right
chetty: I always thought it had more to do with being willing to live without whatever to the extent you would say $fuckyou to the boss, doesn't have to be money
asciilifeform: 'fuck you money,' if i recall, has the following etymology. the idea that if you came into $fuckyou, you could utter 'fuck you' to the boss at the plant tomorrow, and continue to live at least as well (consumption) as presently, indefinitely
asciilifeform: though i've had my doubts
asciilifeform: i.e. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/lifeinthestreets3.wmv
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/JgYKinT.mp4
mircea_popescu: am i to satisfy a negative ?
Vexual: ben_vulpes: may i recommend a wine?
ben_vulpes: i only find it funny once people start *losing* eyes.
Vexual: the ones that go over my head i dont hear
mircea_popescu: i hate how life is filled with double standards. If a girl fucks a bunch of guys she's a whore. if I do, i'm gay. wtf?!
Vexual: hey i don't give a fuck, im impressed you strayed on for so long
TomServo: Oh ahah, yeah - wasn't sure how/why I ended up with the ops either.
mircea_popescu: "i think lots of people confuse good hierarchy with bad hierarchy" to be followed by a) i am the one to establish which is good and which is bad, b) it's okay for me to use "does it recognise me as god-king" as a criteria of whether it's good or bad, c) the fact that i can and do argue against ANY hierarchy does not invalidate my methods.
nubbins`: "I think lots of people confuse (natural concentrations of (power or wealth) that come from either being (smarter or more savvy or luckier or (starting with more (power or wealth or reputation)))) with (systems that prevent newcomers from competing with entrenched interests)."
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "i don't believe i suck because i suck, let me rephrase this five thousand different ways maybe one sticks"
Vexual: yea i herd him on the radio
nubbins`: "I think lots of people confuse natural concentrations of power or wealth that come from either being smarter or more savvy or luckier or starting with more power or wealth or reputation with systems that prevent newcomers from competing with entrenched interests."
mats_cd03: i was poopin and forgot to fix the link
Vexual: ah thats what i was thinking of
Vexual: i wouldnt
Vexual: okay, i wasn't born then, fill me in
Vexual: nothings familiar, what am i looking at?
kakobrekla: old as fuck, i missed it.
nubbins`: i've never seen one in .ca
xinxi: OK, I will never buy a BMW.
nubbins`: and the furnace at the tenant's house is fucked, which i do not like
nubbins`: and i think BMWs are for people with no external genitalia
nubbins`: i like bikes and i like laughing
nubbins`: "I would like to cry in a bmw instead of lau[g]hing on a bike."
Vexual: i own no gold
xinxi: but i did not sell it when the price reached $1700
xiando: :-) sorry. I just alwasy recommend saying "I have no gold"
Vexual: well i dunno if you noticeced but were getting friendly
xiando: so my advice is to repeat after me: "I haz no gold"
xiando: now I know he has 20 oz and all I need is a $2 hammer and his address to get it