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BingoBoingo: So, at 6.5 days since last nicotine, most profound side effect so far is having to learn to drive again because "WTF does left hand do nao?"
mircea_popescu: so they i don't get it, why cant' you !!v ?
sina: and I registered "sina" against the same key thinking it was a different key
sina: ok, so facts are, my fucking backup system did in fact fucking work, and the herbi key was in my keyring uncorrupted this whole time
mircea_popescu: wtf is the issue then
sina: I can decrypt that
phf: where's it supposed to say something more like "Pub alg - RSA Encrypt or Sign(pub 1)"
mircea_popescu: check out the totally lulzy string it spit out
sina: at least, I thought I did and now I think I'm just a piece of crazy shit
sina: phf: I used to use this key to identify with assbot all the time :(
phf: i think you generated a sign only key
sina: and paste it somewhere for me to test
sina: mircea_popescu: I can do a detached signature and verify the sig, yes
mircea_popescu: sina have you verified the signature ?
BingoBoingo: 3. Surrender your will and life to TMSR as you understand it
sina: I can run 'gpg --local-user 7A6DC051 --sign input', it asks me for a password, I copy/paste the pw from my keepassx, it signs the fucking document
BingoBoingo: 2. Come to believe that a power GPG'er than yourself can restore you to sanity
sina: BingoBoingo: yeah I am 100% there
BingoBoingo: Admit you are powerless over GPG and that your life has become unmanageable
sina: fuck is this some kind of gpg2 vs gpg1 shit
sina: mod6: the key was generated on, I think ubuntu 12 or 14.04 with a version of gpg I can't remember
sina: and this is why I thought I didn't have the herbi key backed up because I was getting the same error
sina: I can even export the secret key with 'pg --export-secret-keys --armor 7A6DC051'
mircea_popescu: probably by not signing with the pubkey you're supposed to decrypt with, but a different one.
sina: how the fuck can I sign arbitrary files but not decrypt them
sina: anyway I am also coming to terms with the apparent fact that I can't fucking GPG to save my life
mircea_popescu: new south wales does not drink. TROLLING DETECTED
BingoBoingo: Oh, fuck off. Now I'm starting to wonder who the drunk was in 2014
sina: brb going to kill myself
sina: and now it turns out wrong
sina: but in my mind, all this time, as I navigated through my day to day life, I have been thinking that you rated me as sexy
BingoBoingo: sina I did not rate you that. Read the direction on the rating page. You rated me!
sina: BingoBoingo: that rating from you was the literal core of my being and now it is crumbling away
sina: what the fuck have I done wrong here. "gpg --export --armor sina.sa@gmail.com" ==> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/STTlS/?raw=true ...registered with that. got an OTP URL from above. put it into a file called 'input', run 'gpg --decrypt input' get that error above
BingoBoingo: <herbijudlestoids> but I will lose my sexysosexy rating from BingoBoingo! << NO, you rated ME that
sina: what the fucking fuck is going on
mircea_popescu: sina maybe you need to feed it a pw.
sina: I can export the key it is clearly there wtf is going on
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:18 asciilifeform: was from the (public) beginning 'we're like bitcoin, but with censorship, so When They Shoot The Bitcoinists, we'll live'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665087 << which reminds me, genius boy hasn't found his ballsac to confront http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ to this very day. i have nfi what they're thinking, either, what, someone walks up to you, pisses ion your drink, you'll go all buffett "we couldn't find anyone pissing in mr w's drinks" and that'll wash ? ☝︎
sina: when I run gpg --decrypt input from the OTP, it says gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:15 asciilifeform: my least nonsensical hypothesis is that thiel funded urbit (yes) to make a half-hearted play at 'embrace&extinguish'ing bitcoin
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665077 << in general, the funding of cocksuckers is not exactly a cogent consideration in this sense. more of a case of, "whatever, she can have $bits, see what comes of it" ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:12 erlehmann: on the other hand, i successfully used “see, this guy sold his dukedom in 2013” as argument to convince someone that urbit is of no use
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665069 << actually, the evaluation of the urbit thing that resulted in that decision happened mostly in this very log. ☝︎
erlehmann: when it breaks, you have proof that hoon cannot compile itself
erlehmann: asciilifeform as i understand it, “~/ %add” says “use the C implementation here”. fun exercise: remove ~/ digraphs until implementation breaks.
erlehmann: e.g. had a 20 year old tell me recently that she would not meet me that often if she would expect that fucks would not be given
erlehmann: problem is, i err too often for my taste
erlehmann: cheap as in == easy to acquire
erlehmann: since i learned that sex is cheap i try to only fug with ppl who i would spent a similar amount of time with even if sex was not in the picture. turns out this is a good heuristic to avoid assholes.
erlehmann: the preference or the saying?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann this does not happen naturally.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated sina 1 << missed on all the things!
erlehmann: mircea_popescu also i prefer the ones that have interesting stuff to say.
mircea_popescu: !!rate sina 1 missed on all the things!
mircea_popescu: sina you gonna actually take care of that one ?
erlehmann: well, i know that approach works. slowly, but it works. after a while you have a knot of people who hook up with each other.
mircea_popescu: ~only way out is to keep slavegirls, but then a) you won't particularly want to share and b) it'll take a lot of actual work.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann the problem with this approach is that females don't actually have much interesting to say as a general rule ; and the ones that do are too busy to be worth much on the hookup front.
phf: a111 is a scribe, toils at keeping the logs, what do you expect
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i once was in a channel where the rule was that new members would only be full members if they are in the local hookup graph
erlehmann: oh i thought this might be a channel with sluts
mircea_popescu: sina try you know, your name, like adults / sane people.
asciilifeform: 'we tried for the best, but got like-always'
herbijudlestoids: fine, I guess I can abandon this old nick anyway
erlehmann: asciilifeform but there is no recognizer. just a rune to tell the hoon interpreter to get fucked
herbijudlestoids: how does a fool change their pubkey association, phf or anyone? or am I just stuck now
asciilifeform: erlehmann: in practice it's a nightmare of 'chinese scholarship' -- you're forced to stick to particular forms so as to goad the recognizer into maybe-working
mircea_popescu: i dunno what one'd have to have been eating in college to imagine jets as "a-wizard-did-it" handwave solution could possibly work in any practically useful sense.
herbijudlestoids: in front of all tmsr I admit that I lost my old gpg keypair it seems, thought I had it in my backups but they all seem to have the current one I'm using
erlehmann: so for example the markdown support? just joking, all of this is done by some C lib
erlehmann: in the beginning i thought jets would work like a recognizer + cache
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 01:50 phf: his concept of jets sort of reminds me of lisp VOPs, with similar failure modes. vops originally were supposed to abstract a lisp machine cpu on traditional hardware, so that, say, addition vop adds all the assembler overhead of typechecking etc. in reality it turned into an everything and kitchen sink way of adding arbitrary assembler to the system
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665007 << the concept of "jets" reminds me of the miserable sort of "vp of busines development" that's basically scarlet o'hara, and a good whipping'd have benefitted immensely. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( erlehmann : recently there are also chip fabs that charge 'only' six-figure usd: but they make pretenses to own your design! in the small print !! )
asciilifeform: erlehmann: unless you're rockefeller, it is the kind of thing you do solely if you believe that you can sell'em and make profit.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 01:18 asciilifeform: extracting the Stone of Folly ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1664976 << this, yes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: moreover, too soon.
phf: capability systems demand capability ontology, which in practice is both expensive to develop and impractical to upkeep
asciilifeform: ( and recall that it usually takes ~several~ shots.. )
asciilifeform: erlehmann: coupla $mil for 1980s-sized ic. try it some time, get quotes.
erlehmann: asciilifeform why don't you make FPGAs? or processors for that matter? starting with home computers?
asciilifeform: it's the umpteenth 'let's bolt safety to c machine by compartmentalizing processes REALLY!!11 well with proprietary iron' attempt, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basuically this crash-safe thing looks like a mostly theoretical xilinx blob
herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: do you hate this one too https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/
asciilifeform: doesn't get moar destructured than fpga...
mircea_popescu: certainly none of that bullshit multi-layered cache pipeline and "prediction" and "management engines" and etc. destructured rahter than multistructured.
mircea_popescu: it's probably the case a correct cpu is closer to how they make gpus -- paste a bunch of same cores all over the chip surface and that's that.
mircea_popescu: maybe. doesn't seem terribly convincing.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: I believe something has been designed around this ...
herbijudlestoids: yeah, those kind of definitions are appreciated again
asciilifeform: there are ugly archs, and less-ugly, thread was about hard separation of processes, which can only happen on separated machines.
herbijudlestoids: so I guess then it's not just a question of Ada, but also you want a good arch
asciilifeform: i.e. 0 asm ( unless whole thing in asm )
herbijudlestoids: I just mean small like 8000 LOC or whatever they said, but obviously they are offloading stuff to VT-x
asciilifeform: also 'small' does not mean what you think it means, herbijudlestoids
asciilifeform: intel-proprietary crudware; faux process-separation ( quite impossible on x86 arch ); megatonne of crud; typical academitard snorefest
herbijudlestoids: asciilifeform: yeah I noticed it is managing this small codebase because it's relying on VT-x and other virt techs also