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TheNewDeal: I think bitcoin.org explains the differences

Mikayla: undata I'm not that stupid :) thank you :)

Mikayla: the way some of them look I don't know.... lol

Mikayla: I would like to open a bit wallet but not sure about the links I see online. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance

asciilifeform: bounce: the turds clutter the patches. i want the latter - small.

asciilifeform: bounce: i don't want to see it

asciilifeform: bounce: that is precisely what i was whining about

mike_c: i guess. really who cares.

mike_c: hm. i wonder if this would be a useful web service. upload your electrum/armory public key and it will watch your wallet.

asciilifeform: i'll leave mingw in for now

jurov: mike_c i just pulled all the addresses from the wallets and imported them (into electrum)

mike_c: the only thing i use bitcoin on windows for is watching wallets.

mike_c: i am struggling to defend my position.

jurov: i don't get this discussion

asciilifeform: i've no idea!

asciilifeform: what i personally would like is: the smallest subset of the satoshi turdball that will still operate on the network in the customary way.

jurov: yup. i am in, only it will take few days till i'll do the gpg-only mailman and assure myself it can go online

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so far i got qt and ssl snipped. mega-triumph! lol

ben_vulpes: as much as i'd like it gone, i'd also like something in the wild before the stoolies attempt to fork.

asciilifeform: am i the only one who wants that thing gone?

ben_vulpes: i don't know precisely when that was.

thestringpuller: i don't fuck /w options no more

TheNewDeal: Just wanted to make sure I remembered how he did it

wywialm: now i have to go.

wywialm: re: quoting. i imagined that if usd is the currency at, say, CBOE, and they quote options in usd, and here the currency is btc, we should quote options on eur or usd in btc and in usdbtc exchange rate :)

wywialm: yes, i would - as i said i would even consider 60 days, but then it wouldn't be much of unit testing

TheNewDeal: If i were to write a call for a stock option. It would be quoted in stock/usd not the other way around

wywialm: i just thought it might be a good idea to quote it as x.eur is quoted

wywialm: now usd is approx. 0.002788 btc per 1 usd, if strike for put is 0.0025 then if usd is lower than that you pay me (usdbtc_rate - 0.0025) x notional_quantity, am i right?

wywialm: TheNewDeal, it would be the case if the options were on usd (that is approximately what i have in mind).

HeySteve: mircea_popescu, Mikayla will be back tomorrow after I've explained process further

wywialm: i might ask in name of mp, if i'm wrong he certainly will correct me - the options were on btcusd exchange rate and thus delivered 1 btc.

wywialm: yes, i was incorrectly asking you to deliver through sepa while having in mind asking you to accept sepa delivery

wywialm: but i too got it confused

TheNewDeal: Wywialm you were actually interested in buying a put i see. I had it backwards

asciilifeform: rushed aside the serious espionage implications of having backdoors in CPE; believing that -- for whatever reason -- everyone has a right to choose what software is running on electronic equipment installed in their own home or office. Nevertheless, I am expected to appear in court in a couple of weeks...'

asciilifeform: 'During the police interview -- both in the "informal chat" before the official interview itself, and during that formal tape-recording grilling -- I was probed by detectives on topics quite unrelated to my arrest. In wholly irrelevant circumstances, I was grilled over my role in "unlocking" these CPE, and in my motives for doing so. Not in any way relevant to the accusations filed against me. In interview, I b

HeySteve: if I can eliminate feed costs this way, should help aquaculture business a lot

HeySteve: k I am running a trial at the moment, fish eating it

The20YearIRCloud: HeySteve: I really want to do it if/when I get property in the country

thestringpuller: I blame Ford Motors.

wywialm: los_pantalones, let's say i'm protecting a hypotetical receipt of fiat

TheNewDeal: Just read what i said

wywialm: yeah, of course you are right, i should "deliver" (btc settlement) the quantity in case of put

los_pantalones: i agree w/ that

TheNewDeal: If i sell you the opportunity to purchase btc at 400, im selling a call

wywialm: am i missing something?

wywialm: i.e. btc settlement?

mircea_popescu: anyway, i got lunch now. wil be back in a coupla hours.

mircea_popescu: Mikayla i guess you can email me the pic then.

Mikayla: unless there is a place where I can link such a photo to

Mikayla: Please explain it basically. I only know how to dcc

Mikayla: where do I link it to?

Mikayla: I have done nude once, but it isn't online

Mikayla: well I will take a picture :)

Mikayla: well I have a picture with black tape on my nipples?

Mikayla: I don't have nude shots on the web?

mircea_popescu: Mikayla as per a, link to your previous work, then i'll give you a string you can take your pic.

Mikayla: ok what do I do? :)

wywialm: oh, seems that i'm generalizing too much now

wywialm: ok, at least most banks offer sepa free of charge in poland, i might be generalizing

wywialm: i'd like to test if it is feasible have fiat delivered - that's why the form, i have not yet traded options on WoT that's why so small

los_pantalones: first glance, too small for my interests but i'll look at the terms a bit more

wywialm: ok, then. for start i would buy put option, delivering 100$ unescrowed, as a sort of unit test, at 0.25 btc per 100$ strike, i offer 0.03 btc, matures in 21 days. is it ok, los_pantalones or TheNewDeal?

los_pantalones: let me see if i can find a link for you

wywialm: i can't see any reference to options or futures there

los_pantalones: these guys in nyc, i see them all the time

mircea_popescu: i had nfi they do anything besides grains anyway

los_pantalones: but i'm not sure it's the contract you want

los_pantalones: wywialm i could clear on atlas, would be pretty easy way to do this

wywialm: i.e. btc-only?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back when i gave even less of a damn

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: could've sworn i had others, but no dice, must've actually cleaned disk at one point

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: best i turned up is: bitcoin-0.3.21-linux.tar.gz (leeched jun 2 2011) - sha256: 7e49fd93e9db98d57df31b789eb3cc46e94854958c86961514ff5cb1c7264071

mircea_popescu: so i guess you can pay the 80 in btc at whatever current prevailing rate.

wywialm: nonono, i would like to pay btc for an option of fiat delivery, excuse me being not clear enough

mircea_popescu: wywialm i thought you said you want to be paid in fiat.

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'm not old enought to have originals to make an authoritative checksum. ATM Nakamoto Institute is probably your best bet

wywialm: thats why i tried to spell it in btc

mircea_popescu: american put @400, 45 days out i'd almost buy at 80.

wywialm: i'd suppose 30% spread is pretty wide :)

los_pantalones: yeah, kinda wide, i could tighten if he shows some int

asciilifeform: unrelated - is the standard unix 'patch' util braindamaged, or am i? specifically, the ludicrously elephantine output when deleting files

wywialm: i'm merely trying to explore possibilities

kakobrekla: ben_vulpes since everyone is eating i dont see why we should limit ourselfs to one plate :)

wywialm: ok, i could be convinced to buy puts on x.eur

wywialm: i'm not trying to avoid it, i simply would like to have it simple

ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: interdasting notion, but i'm taking like 3 things into production over the next month and can't handle the overhead.

mircea_popescu: wywialm anyway, talk to los_pantalones, he might write something but i doubt you'll want the premium.

wywialm: and bit4x.com trades options? i cannot find any reference to that

mike_c: wait, nvmd. i think i misunderstood you.

kakobrekla: uh? i was talking about logs.

wywialm: i'll see the bit4x.com. kakobrekla: i'm precisely in the process of looking for such trustworthy person :)

wywialm: didn't he mean btc puts? i look for usd or eur btc-denominated puts

assbot: Logged on 18-09-2014 19:46:44; los_pantalones: what did i say earlier about long puts?

mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis i just meant it for los_pantalones observation that yu can't afford buying put options

wywialm: i will buy put options on usd, eur, possibly unescrowed, short or mid-term

mircea_popescu: i can understand caching an answer. but caching a nonanswer ? who the fuck is the bright excel spreadsheet that came up with that idea.

ben_vulpes: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=betczLmN