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mircea_popescu: though i grant, sock = socket.socket(socket. is such promising lingo as to utterly recommend python for african studies.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's "in all my driving i never had to back up, so... never put a reverse setting for the gearbox in"
mircea_popescu: and sure, you didn't implement. but you're ~supposed~ to implement.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 22:04:14 asciilifeform: wait mircea_popescu , why can't be done ? seems like simple fix ( tho in my simplistic 'run on lappy & yank nic cord' reconnect test, never saw the state that lobbes discovered, so never implemented 'make new socket' )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935086 << because the descriptors are maintained by the kernel not the userspace.
diana_coman: lobbes: kept meaning to ask - how do you pronounce your surname?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:16:52 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
diana_coman: lobbes: there's something weird with your loggger's treatment of ctcp lines, compare http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934613 with http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934613 and http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934613
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
lobbes: I'll look into that socket stuff you mentioned though. Ty
lobbes: asciilifeform: yeah, I also have no idea how to properly test the thing.. except wait for the right fleanode weather to come by
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/ << lobbesblog -- The mp-wp bot job offer
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness : nsabot.log of current run.
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 23d 11h 50m
asciilifeform: lobbes et al : another item i neglected to add, but really oughta have, is to log the actual ip of where connects. so can actually get some ~useful data re individual fleanode endpoints.
asciilifeform: ( then in principle dun gotta make new. but oughta test. nao q , how to reproduce wedged sockets, other than by playing fleanode lotto ? )
asciilifeform thinks 'at last, somebody finally exposed the horrid fleanode edge cases'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 20:35:48 lobbes: holy shit. it filled up nsabot.log too (2.4GB!!)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935079 << prolly would not be bad idea to introduce log constrictor of some form (or using trinque's old method)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 20:39:51 lobbes: here's the snippit of the bot logs for these logs >> http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=CAX0
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935080 << seems like finally lobbes photographed that legendary ufo, the 'socket alive, but wedged tcp' state.
asciilifeform would try, but does not know how to reproduce lobbes's boojum
asciilifeform: seems like all you need is to move ' sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM) ' into 'connect()' .
asciilifeform: wait mircea_popescu , why can't be done ? seems like simple fix ( tho in my simplistic 'run on lappy & yank nic cord' reconnect test, never saw the state that lobbes discovered, so never implemented 'make new socket' )
lobbes: roger that. I'll take a dive into the code and see if I can figure out the socket related bits
mircea_popescu: patch it so it releases the file descriptor and reconnects properly.
mircea_popescu: afaik this can't be done.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, the reconnection code is buggy. should create new socket rather than try to reuse old one.
lobbes: very odd that just that bot had a netsplit and no one else
lobbes: here's the snippit of the bot logs for these logs >> http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=CAX0
lobbes: holy shit. it filled up nsabot.log too (2.4GB!!)
lobbes: looks like ericbot didn't survive netsplit. Had to manually re-cycle it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, link added
mircea_popescu: cnet meanwhile fucked the link i gave them. of fucking course
mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lWOzm/?raw=true << in other lulz : new trilema select scheme fucked up spammers' trackback spinning mechanism.
mircea_popescu: auctionbot starting to get a list huh!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty for the update
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile, upgraded torture room w/ proper drill press , & rivet machine.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-07-15 12:48:59 asciilifeform: they wanna say 妓 -- let'em be stuck saying 32 bytes (16x16 bit matrix, more than enough for any hierohorror) rather than 2 bytes !!!
asciilifeform wonders how long before unitardation reaches the magick threshold when would be moar economical to simply encode bitmap of glyph
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:23:52 asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 04:19:22 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1934993 << that's nothing ; the fucking idiots put all the ~2k or so known (and quite possibly not even linguistic) harappan decorations into the unicode. inexplicably, they're ~proud~ of having done this : https://web.archive.org/web/20170306041359/https://www.mohenjodaroonline.net/index.php/indus-script
asciilifeform: + sigs for the patch, incl. asciilifeform's .
asciilifeform: achtung lobbes , diana_coman , et al : logotron www updated, nao includes latest lobbes & diana_coman contrib. errata fix . and link to new cookbook by the former.
asciilifeform: ( in which -- db slows ; requests -- queue ; bot continues to operate )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking about it, it is possible that you 'got lucky' and caught the phuctor backup interval.
asciilifeform: possibly. if anyone else notices similar effect to mircea_popescu's, plox to write in. preferably with 'where/when/duration' .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looked for evidence of outages, but on neither dulap or own console , found any yet ( no disconnects of bot ; nor drop of shell from dulap to own chair, it's been standing for month+ )
asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected btw that all the major bugs in bot would be found in disconnect handling. piz pipe is so stable that not seen naturally-occurring disconnect yet...
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935012 << ty lobbes , will eat this today.
asciilifeform: if not tested , next time plz test
mircea_popescu: didn't think to check.
asciilifeform: at same time other piz boxes answered ?
mircea_popescu: can't say it's clear to me it's the box specifically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when saw this, no ping ? or only no www ? how long and approx when ?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935029 << anyone else have problems reaching this box ? ( so far only mircea_popescu )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 04:13:58 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934972 << o wait, so his bot thinks its up forever no matter what ? neat :D
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935018 << disconnects still appear in bot log . hate to disappoint.
mircea_popescu: what, no thousands upon thousands of words in a deluge, transforming a pleasant morning into a mad rush to ingest novel after referenced novel ?! just eat like normal people, looking out the window ?!
mircea_popescu: hm, somehow the log seems sparse this morning.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/a-catagraphy-or-the-remains-of-a-bathroom/ << Trilema -- A catagraphy, or the remains of a bathroom
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 02:07:38 lobbes: oh incidentally, can ericbot be added to the autovoice list?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1935015 << let's do that then!
mircea_popescu: "language engineers" Amar Fayaz Buriro and Shabir Kumbhar my foot. they're execrable, odious shitmongers fit only to anchor participate in baboon gangrapes for the rest of their offensive lives.
mircea_popescu: the two "excited" imbeciles in question long vanished ; their "exciting" website's gone. but the radiation damage... it remains.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 00:57:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-08#1934993 << that's nothing ; the fucking idiots put all the ~2k or so known (and quite possibly not even linguistic) harappan decorations into the unicode. inexplicably, they're ~proud~ of having done this : https://web.archive.org/web/20170306041359/https://www.mohenjodaroonline.net/index.php/indus-script
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:06:30 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934178 - did not test but apparently bot tested it so I'll have at least one data point to look at when I get to it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 18:19:52 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934972 << o wait, so his bot thinks its up forever no matter what ? neat :D
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 16:56:13 trinque: I'd have to stress test the thing to say, but response time over here is about a half second. ignoring parallelism 172800 req per day (assuming pastes expire after 24hr)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934968 << alright, i'm sold, make the id 5 chars. erryone's just gonna have to type the extra char and that's that. alphanum tho, no symbols.
lobbes: oh incidentally, can ericbot be added to the autovoice list?
lobbes: never did get to baking that post on mircea_popescu's ask... (I blame apache). Will have to tackle that in the morning. Until then, off to sleep!
lobbes: roger that. I'll gets to patchin'
asciilifeform: lobbes: there's 0 reason to 'wait for $nextpatch'. just turn errata into vpatches, folx
lobbes: if not, I have no issue with making a vpatch for the various fixes in that guide
lobbes: as for the vpatching, I wonder if it makes sense to just "lump them all in" with the quoted search patch?
lobbes: re: the database dump, that is
lobbes: ty. and interesting. Perhaps I just jumped the gun on that.
asciilifeform: lobbes: the max dump line limit is configurable. ( and i'ma turn the knob on mine if anyone finds the '500' inconvenient. plox to write in. )
asciilifeform: lobbes: btw dumps from 10.3 eat on 9.x w/out modification, you did not need to comment anything. (it will spit warnings but harmless. tested.)
asciilifeform: lobbes: otherwise a+++ cookbook, ty for writing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 03:06:30 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934178 - did not test but apparently bot tested it so I'll have at least one data point to look at when I get to it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 18:19:52 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/logsericbenevidescom-is-born-compiled-notes-on-the-cloning-process/ << lobbesblog -- logs....com is born: compiled notes on the cloning process
lobbes: I'm off to eat some food, then make a "standing up a logotron" guide from compiled notes
lobbes: the "raw dump" knob works splendidly btw! was as simple as deleting from loglines table by index and eating where not synced
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 20:38:33 ericbot: lobbes: time since my last reconnect : 0d 0h 1m
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 23:55:22 ericbot: lobbes: time since my last reconnect : 0d 0h 1m
ericbot: lobbes: time since my last reconnect : 0d 0h 1m
lobbes: (ftr, the cause of my apache access logs not functioning was indeed that I nuked a module in my attempts to get proxying working. Specifically, I nuked the "mod_log_config" and "mod_logio".. oy)
lobbes: I also am not sure what caused the reconnect (hence my tangent into the apache logs). However I finally got my access logs working again so I'll have those available the next time it disconnects at least
lobbes: I'll make the change on my end as well re: the time_last_conn (ty for the info diana_coman)
lobbes: diana_coman: this was what I found too re: logs (listen socket error). Paste for reference: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=2qou
diana_coman: since it was quiet otherwise anyway, I made the change and restarted ossabot so I'll see the effect @ next socket error, I suppose
diana_coman: in any case, atm the bot's uptime command will in fact report "time since last run of the bot" rather than since last connection