asciilifeform: http://savepic.net/3474247.htm

asciilifeform: not mega-surprise, proper medical gear was scarce.

asciilifeform: (apparatus where a small tesla coil craps out high-freq current which burns out, e.g., a mole; what closes the circuit? ~you~, as an antenna!)

asciilifeform: my mother (was a dermatologist) had one of these ^ modified as a radiothermal cauterizer

asciilifeform: http://embroidery-digitizing.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/burning-device.jpg << also popular

asciilifeform: mega-70s.

asciilifeform: (not quite same device, but similar)

asciilifeform: http://www.fresher.ru/manager_content/images2/chto-prosili-u-deda-moroza-shkolniki-80-x-godov/6.jpg

asciilifeform: but i had, brother's, at home

asciilifeform: same

asciilifeform: to draw on.

asciilifeform: typically don't want 'catch' but to turn black/brown in nice gradations

asciilifeform: gotta be dry and sans the 'fire-resisting' crud

asciilifeform: can give kid (chemically untreated - go, find, in usa) wooden plank, in lieu of ants, if the latter cannot be had

asciilifeform: good tutorial in 1/d^2

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: ~pop~

asciilifeform: most importantly.

asciilifeform: and this.

asciilifeform: mats: gotta be around the size of your palm, to work reliably

asciilifeform: nah it's closer to 'what's an ant'

asciilifeform was mega-cultureshocked when asked colleagues about ants and magnifying glass and no one knew of this ☟︎

asciilifeform: otherwise, just frustrating.

asciilifeform: maxim of the day: only visit anthill with a magnifying glass in your pocket.

asciilifeform bbl, eating food

asciilifeform: the last time i 'asked around', i discovered folks who didn't know who won ww2.

asciilifeform shudders

asciilifeform: c'mon, fucking beethoven, even

asciilifeform: what is this

asciilifeform: pretty well-known!

asciilifeform: this also.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: doesn't work terribly well without both #include

asciilifeform: but this came with the #include of cocks of low rank not daring to ask

asciilifeform can picture.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: (do you have those in ro?)

asciilifeform: sekretute.

asciilifeform: babbage's gf.

asciilifeform: ^ her

asciilifeform: https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/ay95895977ada-lovelace-engl.jpg

asciilifeform: 'this is your terminal, countess lovelace.'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for her especially this was made.

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: betcha mircea_popescu could easily include ada in the gurlz training and no one will notice the difference

asciilifeform: idk about the lot of you, but i am not inclined to play 'underhanded c contest' for this.

asciilifeform: (walk on coals)

asciilifeform: in ada.

asciilifeform: but presently (unpublished) it is ordinary patch and an extra bit to check antecedent

asciilifeform: oh vpatch is unavoidable

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have been deliberately dancing around the spitoon-drinking that reimplementing 'diff' and 'patch' would be.

asciilifeform: (i assume all have read it by now)

asciilifeform: and then massages the output

asciilifeform: presently it is a 1liner that invokes classical diff

asciilifeform: they are different sides of the same medal.

asciilifeform: also recall that not only 'diff' is retarded, but 'patch' !

asciilifeform: doesn't affect date

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i just have good geography. a benjie a month buys ~80Mbit here

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wat

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we might be the first to seriously diff a diff

asciilifeform: mats: think 'tub'

asciilifeform: mats: stone age fishing boat

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is a winner

asciilifeform: dingdingding

asciilifeform: dialup ?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that thing is on what, a sat dish?

asciilifeform: go, try.

asciilifeform: it balks.

asciilifeform: funnily, i was never able to get the custom format string feature in gnu diff to work with the -uNr standard

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not gnu diff...

asciilifeform: though iirc diff will complain whenever a file on the local filesystem is being replaced with 'older'

asciilifeform: but all non-0 stamps could be replaced with some arbitrary.

asciilifeform: (means absent file)

asciilifeform: at any rate, they can't be removed entirely because epoch0 is 'magic' to diff

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not ~entirely~ meaningless, in that they impose an ordering. BUT my antecedent hashes do that now.

asciilifeform: try it.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic boojum here is that no two diffs ever diff cleanly on account of timestamps.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see mod6's link earlier.

asciilifeform: basic choices reduce to a) let'em live and pollute diffs b) tear'em out c) copy from filesystem timestamps of originals somehow

asciilifeform: of what to do with timestamps.

asciilifeform: while folks are awake, i would like to pose the question,

asciilifeform: iirc hanbot also had the out-of-order thing with genesis ☟︎

asciilifeform: hanbot awake?

asciilifeform: mod6: your diff is correct (only timestamps at variance)

asciilifeform: (who else just saw a mountain of rubbish instead of cyrillic)

asciilifeform: or possibly just my client.

asciilifeform: holy fuck is assbot broken. ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246633 << ahahahahahaha. happened! just, sideways. ☝︎

asciilifeform catching up on log

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: what was the deal with the gpg sig thing ?!

asciilifeform can abide no more of this, in one sitting. off to play with pet

asciilifeform: (otherwise very spiffy, largely through having sat out the last 20 yrs of drepperization)

asciilifeform: and worst aspects of unix.

asciilifeform: plan9 is not a unix. it is its own animal. but very much mired in c

asciilifeform: and before BingoBoingo says 'bsd' - i will point out that ~all~ of this crap has long metastatized to bsd

asciilifeform: apparently.

asciilifeform: this horror went past the point of being recoverable, long, long ago.

asciilifeform: is there a patient on this operating table at all? or just four-limbed tumour mass ?

asciilifeform: 'More important, I looked through some of the Gnulib and GNU utilities code that deals with working around bugs in GCC's diagnostics generation, and -Wmaybe-uninitialized in particular has caused us so much grief that we typically silence it in a different way, which I should mention. We use a macro definition like this:' << holy fuq.