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asciilifeform: fluffypony: i can easily see how you might have arrived at this, but you must be ~111th one in a row to think that i like 'old' for sake of old
fluffypony: the circlejerk gets old after a while
fluffypony: sure, GC -> ARC is changing the label on a knob
asciilifeform: new can be a pleasure if done for some actual reason and not because a monkey changed the label on a knob
fluffypony: also their transition doc has a 2013 timestamp, so if developers have taken 2 years to cotton on to changes then wtf, they should choose a different career
fluffypony: decimation: I don't get what's lol about that, .NET faces the same issue (as have many high-level abstractions / languages), whereby trying to force GC collections or modify GC behaviour invariably ends up being messy. Frankly, handing off to a reference counting system is way, way better than GC bullshit.
asciilifeform: which has a somewhat different shape, and no sata port
asciilifeform: rom-able a la 'corebios' (formerly 'linuxbios')
asciilifeform: in the purple unit, that'll necessarily be a usb drive
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> danielpbarron: in other news, i got netbsd ramdisk to build. << yay! in related news, i got some links from a guy in #olimex who tackled this problem back in 2013; haven't checked it out yet / just got back from stocking up for the impending snow storm
asciilifeform: yes, plugged into a jack in the back
asciilifeform: consider also that the 'connection machine' was not usable at all except as an expansion plug-in to a symbolics lispm
asciilifeform: iirc not a single such machine sold to anyone but usg or a directly usg-funded org.
asciilifeform: i was genuinely floored when learned for the fist time that there are folks using a computer who have never so much as vaguely heard of it
cazalla: i think i need a keyboard fitted with a breathalyzer
assbot: 10 results for 'trusting trust' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trusting+trust
decimation: asciilifeform: or this http://compcert.inria.fr/ < it's a 'formally verified' C compiler
asciilifeform: because the fate of ugly chimeras is to sit in a circus
decimation: yeah it seems like a waste of time trying to turn the c-dialect of algol into the ada dialect
asciilifeform: built in to a degree that folks who have never seen it, cannot possibly apprehend.
decimation: it seems with a pl like ada, it mostly comes 'built-in'
decimation: asciilifeform: do you have a favorite 'static code analysis' tool? or do you eschew all such automation in favor of 'fits in head'?
decimation: yes, that's a massive real estate scam
asciilifeform: plus the $xxx bil of tax deduction subsidies for the mortgage racket as a class
decimation: yes, the section 8-A rent subsidy too
asciilifeform: and what's left is a very thin slice.
decimation: yes that's a separate program, but they will buy your house at 'prevailing rates'
decimation: the whole business works out to be a backdoor gov't subsidy for the real estate bezzle near bases
asciilifeform: this actually explains quite a bit
decimation: I had a friend in the wash dc area that calculated an O3 officer (roughly BS degree plus 5 years experience) makes about $140k in wash dc
decimation: as you can imagine, this sets a 'floor' in the market
decimation: even a lowly E-1 rates $2140 per month with dependents
asciilifeform: as does anybody who does a 'crazy' thing for which the market is ultra-thin
asciilifeform: so i pay a 'weirdo tax'
asciilifeform: nubbins`: scarce rental market thing << you don't know half of it. virtually unheard of to rent a house here, other than by gigantic groups of immigrants or students living like sardines in can
nubbins`: my last rental before purchasing had -- literally -- a mold room
nubbins`: this place was below 1% vacancy for quite a time
asciilifeform: as for the inevitable question of what i must be smoking to have done this at all - it's a consequence of the geography in which i'm trapped (a handful of houses advertised for rent in my price range at any given moment - if that; the most tilted 'seller's market' one could imagine)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, decimation: the point that i was trying - and failing - to make, was that a fundamentally fiat-based business arrangement like renting a house from a fella on opposite end of continent who you've never met and never expect to meet, cannot be 'bitcoinized' in the sense of turning you loose from usg financial jail
nubbins`: what's a young anti-consumerist to do ;/
decimation: although it was a large cash transaction I'm sure it would inspire a degree of interest
ben_vulpes: and that's not a wot, that's a system.
decimation: well, you can get a deposit receipt from the bank
nubbins`: asciilifeform far be it from me to say this is a cure-all
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but to imply that everyone who is not in your position is necessarily a spendthrift who would be a winner but for the 'fatlogic' - is disingenuous
nubbins`: now it takes me a bit longer
nubbins`: that's two hundred bucks each, per month. $7 a day.
nubbins`: yeah, the socialist paradise. i get hit by a car, they fix me for free
asciilifeform: nubbins`: lol! 6k would not even pay the tax on such a thing here.
asciilifeform: 6k/yr probably buys you a harem in, e.g., zimbabwe
nubbins`: my home cost just under a quarter-million for reference.
nubbins`: but what i'm saying is that while cutting one's income from a gross of ~$60k to a net of ~$6k necessarily involves severe lifestyle changes
asciilifeform: a few seconds here and there are enough
nubbins`: and someone with a link to the stats can take a stab at how much time i spend dicking around on irc
nubbins`: just so it's not glossed over, i said earlier that i took a 90% pay cut in 2013
nubbins`: you know i took a ninety per cent pay cut two years ago?
nubbins`: fierce, bitter tears. as opposed to a dull, prolonged weeping.
nubbins`: i don't /really/ think i need to tell you guys that tears are a necessary ingredient to un-fucking your situations
ben_vulpes: i started a company
nubbins`: "i really wanna lose weight, but big macs are just so good and i gotta have 10 a day"
asciilifeform: it is also a good approach because it forces all the crud to be expunged with hot iron
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2015 17:53:43; ascii_field: danielpbarron: the netbsd kernel and userland are sufficiently compact (vs linux) to make this a worthwhile exercise
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2015 17:53:11; ascii_field: danielpbarron: at present time there is no support whatoever for the eeprom in netbsd. this means that it can be used, but only if the userland (yes, all of it) is baked into a ramdisk baked into the kernel (which in turn is loaded by uboot in one shot at powerup)
asciilifeform: cazalla: no, but the cost of electricity, gas and others under the idea of global warming and taxes [and rest of that thread] << if it makes ya feel better - far worse in usa. i, for instance, know for a fact that i will never own any lands here.
Adlai: ... and the jar's floor is a treadmill, each shelf's mills singing a parallel circuit to power the shed's dingy incandescent
asciilifeform: he'd have to live for ten thousand years in the jar to make so much as a visible mark in the glass.
asciilifeform: the mouse is a perfect analogy here, because his efforts at glass-breaking are not in any way cumulative
mircea_popescu: but i still dun think it's a fair eval.
asciilifeform: or to tell him that in the garden shed where his jar stands, in a toolchest there is a glass-cutter.
asciilifeform: but to tell mouse that there is no glass, and it is only a figment of his perceptions, is an odd thing imho
asciilifeform is one of the numerous mice on parade here in #b-a who go 'thchwack' against the glass daily
mircea_popescu: obviously, i'm a great student of the mouse school of jar handling.
mircea_popescu: just as long as it's not a re-dressed convenience argument.
mircea_popescu: how convenient something is can not be a part of discussing what to do
mircea_popescu: person presents with complaint "i can not correctly use bitcoin because im on windows". on a scale of -10 to +10, where -10 is "that's ok, you shoulsd use windows" and 10 is "fuck you get off windows anywhay right now no mattert the cost" you average about a -8, i about a -1
asciilifeform: except that linux is free (yeah, aha, 'if your time has no value' - well guess what, mine - didn't - as a student)
mircea_popescu: yes. like not running windows, it's a "this tall to play" affair.
asciilifeform: this is a 'must be this tall to play' affair, as described above
mircea_popescu: buy a corp with debt.,
mircea_popescu: it is in fact a rehash of the "i can't run bitcoin on linux because i have windows"
asciilifeform: on account of rent not being a tax-deductible item in usa
asciilifeform: but everyone already knew that the problem, after a certain scale, is solvable
mircea_popescu: ah, well, there's more angles to the problem. you need a good tax attorney, a llc structure, etc etc.
asciilifeform: or sending a wire
asciilifeform: then same as cutting a cheque
mircea_popescu: you do get a receipt for the txn
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every problem is a triviality to folks who can't even conceive of having it
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> let's say you could. how do you prove you paid ? << don't be silly, this is a triviality.
ben_vulpes: granted, a problem.
ben_vulpes: sure. i'll read more thoroughly next time i'm a thousand lines behind.
Adlai: a sufficiently paranoid populace needs no persecution
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: you gotta remember Australia is a pioneer is "social sciences" ESL retardations. They pioneer these things for USia and Lower Britain.
mircea_popescu: "cazalla: and the result? oh you are oppositional defiant, you have a conduct disorder" << waiot wut ?! how old are you after all
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2015 12:01:22; cazalla: something is very fucking wrong when my broke ass opa who couldn't speak a word of fucking english managed to get a job in the steel works and pay off a house in 2 decades and raise 6 kids in the 1950s... not even 2 adults working with 1 kid can do that today here
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Not with the Amir is incompetent angle, but the Amir is a perv angle
BingoBoingo: mats: Here prolly. Give it a decade or two. The Mujahadeen didn't become Al Queda until Osama needed to handle pensions.
BingoBoingo: <mats> i don't believe the kurds will actually fight inside mosul << There's a time and place the Kurds will fight, but first the need to go through the motions of leveraging all of the phree stuff they can from Obola
mircea_popescu: but as a kind-of minor point. what fucking kurds.
mircea_popescu: it's like a rite of passage, for arabs, pissing on the great satan. whoever does it best is just more respectable, is all.
mircea_popescu: it's a "us vs one of the football teams of the Y. they do nominally vie for supremacy. they do not in the slightest mind any one team take the world cup"