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mircea_popescu: i will also note
that
there's a very interesting relation between... i mean! it is almost always
the case culture shock engenders #trilema conversations. and it is at least in principle possible
to measure how interesting rthey are ; and
then
to relate
that value
to just how shocky
the shock is. it'd seem moderate shock like eg erlehmann works a lot better
than full on blast splatting like
the fly earlier
today.
mircea_popescu: "i'm not going away from here without a head in
this here bag, so which head is it going
to be".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite. "don't fucking
tell me it can't be done,
they've done it which is why
there's bombs falling everywhere"
mircea_popescu: this confluence of a) forming an idea (why can't you deepthroat ? SHE CAN!) and b) having a lab is
the key
to all everytrhings.
mircea_popescu: all renaissance works on
this paradigm afaik. "bitch get
to work" in a coherent and realistic (ie, with a real underpinning) fashion -> renaissance.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but back upstack : it'd be perhaps fair
to say
that it wasn't porn ~per se~
that changed
the world from pantsuit
to breathable. it was
the fortunate situation
that just as
the chick in every young household had been exposed
to other girls outperforming her,
the dude could
then afford a cam and so he could go "ok, get
to work bitch".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah,
that. i dunno, really. filming physiology is not pornography.
there's a certain intersection of cultural items
to make porn, and i'd say it expired just about
the
time michael jackson was completing his diana bowie-ross morphism.
mircea_popescu: golden age of porn was
the vhs. silver age of porn was
the early internet paysite, which if i recall
the figures correctly were hit 80% dialup,
then a few years later 60%, and
then a few more years like 5% or so, and
the cheap digicams were everywhere
erlehmann: i had a lot of fun with
this and
the goebbels diaries
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notrly. by
the
time broadband + sonycams hit, it was already gone, and i was already out.
erlehmann: for
those who know german, i can suggest „die läufige leinwand“ from christian kessler, a book about american hardcore porn from 1970
to 1985. maybe
there exists a
translation?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes,
to properly appreciate
the change one should have been born no later
than 62 or so. be in your mid 20s in mid 80s.
mircea_popescu: moreover,
the internet as a not-apple-paysite even exists in
the first place because it allowed its silver age ; and in so allowing also destroyed, of course, but different discussion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider, if you're curious,
the shift in
the implicit social attitudes as reflected by mid 80s and late 90s sit coms.
mircea_popescu: ie, "you
tv folk can come in and see our hot gear on a wednesday but don't
teach anything"
mircea_popescu: eh, no, no.
this was a golden age in
the very
true and proper sense of "like bitcoin", ie, realligning social order pressures available.
mircea_popescu: erlehmann not even a bronze age, now. with all
the "webcam" sadness. but
there WAS a golden age.
erlehmann: accept low pay
to achieve stuffings!
erlehmann: it reminds me of startup culture
thingies.
erlehmann: the director
told me at our date
that she
tried
to weed out
the ones doing porn mainly for money during castings because it paid so bad and she suspected
they would not be satisfied with
the pay.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:34 asciilifeform: witness
the 'smart brits of 1700s' -- how many indian gardeners?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:31 asciilifeform: it still boggles my mind : would you hire, e.g., a
talking grizzly bear,
to 'tend garden' ?
mircea_popescu: erlehmann i don't
think anyone alive made as much money per
time, at
the
time. so in
this sense i guess i was a fully professional... banker ?
erlehmann: people involved expect payment i guess, but at a lower rate
than full-time professionals
mircea_popescu: im
theoretically
technically promising, but practically rather inept. i don't even drive.
mircea_popescu: important
to point out
this is all memories from back when cameras weighed >20lbs and came with
tape.
erlehmann: mircea_popescu i believe i got
that information not from porn, but from what a porn director claimed
mircea_popescu: director can't be on
the set. producer on
the set is a clear symptom of serious
trouble, like white cell count
mircea_popescu: erlehmann entirely possible, i've not been watching for a long
time now.
mircea_popescu: think in
terms of
the old crime world. producer is
the fixer, he gets some guy's house for
the weekend. director is
the office manager, he makes sure all
the cunts end up on
the couch and all
the film cans in
the lab.
erlehmann: fluffer is a job
that does not exist anymore, prove me wrong
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they are,
typically. much like fluffer and pornstar are separate.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:27 phf:
they heard
that sometime long
time ago cool people were doing
tmsr (like maybe black panthers in
the 60s), but back
then was doing, now it's long long fashion. and it's obviously fashion because none of
these posers have it in
them
to make a clean cut with a sword so
to speak. an act
that comes from conviction or desperation
that is an act in itself. with no "purpose"
to it
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672652 << you're definitely on
to something
there.
the act without meaning is long gone in
the world of "meanings" devoid of any acts. every single
time withjout exception captain brezer0 runs into
tmsr,
the remnants splattered everywhere consist entirely of "here's
this collection of signifiers i had"
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (and, afore anyone asks,
the porn ~~~PRODUCER~~~ ie what i did is
the one who fucks when feels like, rather
then as a group behaviour.)
mircea_popescu: erlehmann either
that or he's
the least likely
to get distracted.
mircea_popescu: ah. at issue was
the social dynamic. "average income in your country is $500/year, which you can onl;y have in paper gift certificates, and shitty apartment
that is prerequisite for maybe getting a bad blowjob on odd weekends is $2mn in gold."
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean you can'tr afford
to drop 2mn on a shitty matchbox appartment ?!?!?!?!"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:23 BingoBoingo: ABOVE
THAT: "Dating is part of
the WMAF Hapa problem. Our #2 mod is called incelman. Hapa issues started gaining
traction after Elliot Rodger blamed being half asian for being incel.
The perceived unattractiveness of Asian males is a primary factor behind
the huge WMAF imbalance. And a major point of r/Hapas is
that
the very sons of WMAF are hit by
that anti-AM bias. So look we're not a bunch of angry incels just hating on women. We're m
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:20 phf: michael jackson rode on a
tail wave of
that, and really i would say
that "everyone" wants
to be michael jackson, but michael jackson wanted
to be david bowie (not cause bowie is somehow good or superior, but because bowie was happening as jackson was rising)
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:14 erlehmann: i once had a one night stand with a porn director. during sex, i figured out
that her fluids smell exactly like mine. we were a bit weirded out by
that,
then went back
to pound
town.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:50
trinque: curious if shinohai's 'white supremacist' chick ever replied
phf: hmm,
that last picture gave me a lizard overload for
the day, did it
to myself
though.
phf: hanno bock is a stand in for "security community", sort of like preet bharara is a standing for american aparatchiks.
they even look
the parts!
☟︎ erlehmann: because
that seems like,
the first
thing
that comes
to mind when encountering embedded private keys, right?
erlehmann: > I read
the Baseline Requirements document (version 1.4.5, section 4.9.1.1), but I wasn't entirely sure whether
this is considered a key compromise. I asked Hanno Bock on
Twitter
☟︎ erlehmann: > Last weekend, in an attempt
to get Sky's NOW
TV video player (for Mac)
to work on my machine, I noticed
that one of
the Cisco executables contains a private key
that is associated with
the public key in a
trusted certificate for a cisco.com sub domain.
ben_vulpes: yes well, "everyone gets
ticket" and "cannot be expelled" are
two distinct
things
trinque: the irony of
this person being called a hacker makes me lol every
time I have
to get involved with setting up a printer.
trinque: ben_vulpes: high school, for changing a "From" e-mail header -> "lol email came from
teacher"
phf: (thinking some more i only had one clarification, second one relating
to action/thought i don't
think i have a good grasp on...)
☟︎ ben_vulpes: everyone gets
ticket, some might get ejected but lord with
the stories coming out of
the inner cities i don't even give
that much credence.
phf: situationists actually were very sensitive
to
that subject, and notoriously
trolled anyone who would imply
there is such a
thing as "situation-ism"
phf: erlehmann: yes, but with
two clarifications. i specifically don't
think
that "something",
that one could be part of, is actually happening when it comes
to "race" at
the moment. (i might find out otherwise years from now, but it would be
totally unrelated
to
the public conversation
that's happening right now)
erlehmann: many people do not care about
their own smell. i find mine really nice.
trinque: imagine
the creature born with a scent repulsive
to itself.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 18:13 erlehmann: yes, but alien seems attractive attractive. actually, my own smell is also attractive
to me.