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dorion: 3. Boost has proven to be the most stubborn. 1.52.0 was released in 2012 and, from my understanding, aarch64 support wasn't added until 2015 in 1.58.0. Said support included adding asm, entry point of reference here : http://archive.is/jciFv
dorion: 2a. The config.guess and config.sub files for bdb were taken directly from the links in the configuration error message : http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.guess;hb=HEAD ; http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.sub;hb=HEAD
dorion: 2. I modified the build/Makefile and build/Makefile.rotor to build the aarch64 toolchain, bdb and openssl.
dorion: 1. I used the buildroot menuconfig to produce a rotor_buildroot_aarch64_dot_config.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-26 10:17:04 dorion: ty mp_en_viaje I am Robinson Dorion, the someone BingoBoingo mentioned had inquired about the rk. Plan is to sync a trb node there.
dorion: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-07-26#1925030 << I've managed to make progress on the rockchip trb build, but've not yet succeeded. Presently the status is:
mircea_popescu sings "He was slick but I was slicker, he drew quick but I was quicker and the table stopped his ticker Surly Joe - Yee Haw"
mircea_popescu: much like you can never be friends with the man who shot and missed -- because he can never be anything else now, besides the dood who took his shot
mircea_popescu: and so this is what happened there, the complete story : he did ~just what a saboteur would do~, because look how fucking wunderbar=ly it'd have sabotaged if it worked ; and a less-than-divine mp easily would've gotten fucked over it. so now -- we can never be friends again, i ain't getting over that.
mircea_popescu: this mirrors the above discussion re money exactly : in a certain context, idiocy can be just idiocy. but when you engage (and it does not matter how far above your paygrade the engaging is, or how coincidental -- the smoking gun dude could be retarded, iq <30, he'll hang just as well) the very hot core of the first mover in certain ways... suddely it's not no more.
mircea_popescu: and to properly bolster the fundaments of the foregoing terror -- it DPOES NOT MATTER whether one actually was, deliberately, working for the enemy. from my pov, phf is not "merely an idiot", but very well saboteur anon describes NOT because he actually is, but because... again, guy found with smoking gun next to dead president is hanged, [http://logs.nosu
mircea_popescu: the problem with embryos -- you never know which set of literally three cells will be the eye and also the only shot you get at ever having eyes.
mircea_popescu: most groups tryna challenge the system of idiocy die this way, because early on they destroy some tiny thing which is actually critcal for long term survival, unawares.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:53:00 lobbes: iirc he made a point that he doesn't read other castle's logs for this reason (so as to not embitter the grounds there)
mircea_popescu: r for the world early on, when "nobody" knew what's what.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935445 << yes, and look how beautifully sabotage-y ~highly intelligent~ idiotic misbehaviour actually is : if i wasn't me, but slightly less of a me such as to not notice the problem and get carried away emotionally, we'd have a fine problem on our hands, through having ruined an important pilla
mircea_popescu: when you switch from discussing "my getting enough to eat tomorrow" to "here's this island, manage it", all the tools keep the names get different powers.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:44:57 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934680 << the lever here is the increasing purchasing power of btc or something else? and if it's to remain mp's business and not mine, that's fine too.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935442 << tjhere's a thread re micro/macro economy and a discussion of money in its dual aspect somewhere but i can't take the time to find it for you right nao, leaving for hunedoara castle in about five minutes. we can revisit this in weekend though, ping me.
mircea_popescu: the obverse of that "oh, stalin got tupolev back out of dungeon" coin is that BEFORE getting itno dungeon, cis-tupolev, the whole half million of them, had ONE DAMNED GOOD reason to get out of bed in the morning. "holy shit it's gonna happen to me", terror works. on short stretches at a time, but works.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the ~one~ good (unintentional, and unaware, but neither of this matters) 2nd order effect of attempted socialism is that in the mid phase it shook the complacency out of people.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:37:11 trinque: damn, now it has to be good.
mircea_popescu: here they sat, same #trilema as today, and preened, like these do. nothing came of it, and then one day i showed up and kicked them all out.
mircea_popescu: ~all that crawls out of cunt these days is anal children, like it or not, pretend how you would.
mircea_popescu: for YEARS /me did not give a shit, #t hosted club of (romanian-speaking, as it happens, but of no consequence past that coincidence), exactly same automatons working the same way getting the same results
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, gotta also take it easy, if one were to judge "the output" of #t on the basis of its however many first weeks...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:51:19 trinque: when they line up quietly like that they're either jacking off to you, or waiting for you to tell them what to do, or both!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935482 << iirc mircea_popescu warned about this (and apparently was right) : the coupla folx in #a, already would not do when mircea_popescu asked ; why would they do when asciilifeform asks, who isn't famous hero, has no millions, no harems, nothing in particular that forces recalcitrant folx to stand up. so far the output of the #a people is the predicted 0.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 00:49:58 trinque: tried telling them to do anything?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935481 << matter of fact, did. for instance when phf reappeared, told him to genesis his logotron. guess what was result ?
lobbes: continue to do great work for the next 10 years for all we know. (I hope he does for that matter)
lobbes: there's been plenty of people in my meatlife who I like a great deal; enjoy their company. But I also wouldn't trust them with xyz. The WoT is individual to individual for a reason. One person may be able to answer questions better about another than another. The tendons between mp and phf weakened, but this ain't a republic of one after all. Phf could resurface in asciilifeform's castle tomorrow and
lobbes: This doesn't even mean the same thing as "not a good guy" or "arms don't grow from right organ" in my book. Simply a WoT matter
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 03:57:39 trinque: iirc mircea_popescu met phf irl, didn't like him, and that was that
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935472 << nah, it came down to what the WoT is all about ("how well are you able to answer questions about X person if asked?"). Nobody could answer as to where he was when needed. Hence MP's whole "nickel's worth of clues" article (the title was apt).
trinque: when they line up quietly like that they're either jacking off to you, or waiting for you to tell them what to do, or both!
trinque: tried telling them to do anything?
asciilifeform: trinque: for that matter, there ain't a spare mircea_popescu either. observe that nobody else knows how to strip the valence electrons from folx like phf and make'em usefully react. none of the burnouts are doing anyffin worth note in e.g. #a .
trinque: it's what I hear in the admonitions about blogging, ftr.
trinque: it's unfortunate no phf<->asciilifeform remains absent mp, such that this could be demonstrated otherwise.
asciilifeform: but i aint about to nod to 'x was always trotskyist, we were mistaken from day 1 to involve him' logic.
asciilifeform: trinque: my contention wasn't that it was somehow work for mircea_popescu to nurse'em back to health (how?)
trinque: iirc mircea_popescu met phf irl, didn't like him, and that was that
asciilifeform: trinque: from where this implication ?
trinque: I mean, it's empire-shaped thinking to say mircea_popescu should consult with you and whomever else on who he likes.
asciilifeform: trinque: fwiw i suspect they 'ran' to bottle, rather than 'to empire'.
asciilifeform: trinque: for my part, i remember'em as folx who did 1st class work, of the kind i suspect nobody born after '90 is able to do, full stop. but then ran outta steam. (why, i do not know.)
trinque: if republic doesn't mean "fuck you, I'll tell you who my friends are" in all directions, wtf, lets skip right back to empire?
asciilifeform: it is very easy to say 'they were weak, fughet'em'. but fact remains, they were not replaced , of yet .
asciilifeform: trinque: ftr i don't even know what did phf in. (it wasn't the ski mishap, obv. but some chronic degeneration)
trinque: I quite like phf ftr, on the basis of history, but I don't think that's the point
asciilifeform: trinque: 2-3 moar 'wins' like this and what will be left , will be mircea_popescu writing his memoirs.
asciilifeform: trinque: obv. mircea_popescu's (and for that matter anyone's) ratings are b/w him and odin. but imho to present the disappearance of phf as some kinda win, is disingenuous at best .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.
asciilifeform: trinque: orig. contention, which i disputed. phf was 1 of the very, very few people whose hands grew from right place, and it will take very long time to replace , not even speaking of the full functionality of the orig. bot ( still not had ) but of e.g. the vpatch viewer, which i use erry fucking day of the week
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 23:50:19 trinque: asciilifeform: and you know, to take the other side of the leucosys thing, this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935444 << not accurate description of thread.
lobbes will probably ammend the READMEs of all converters once this testing phase is over. For better clarity on expected irssi/znc log formats
lobbes: However, I think my irssi logs are using a different format than yours, because I am observing some http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=8ydO
lobbes: I'm trying to perform a "full sweep" test on my end of the znc2tmsr, irssi2tsmr, and the raw-dump to make sure that they ALL conform to the standard (which I understand is NO ";" after the nick on an action line)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:01:10 diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is" as nick?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 23:53:06 lobbes: I'm willing to patch one or the other (should be a quick fix). Now... the question is which one? The converter, the raw-dumper, or should the eat_dump.py be able to handle BOTH formats?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-10 06:25:00 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935311 - your znc2tmsr converter; I made initially the same mistake with mine, here's the thread re standard: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927457
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935332 << diana_coman, could you provide me a small snippet of your irssi log that you fed into your irssi2tmsr converter (with both an "action line" and "regular line" example)?
lobbes: iirc he made a point that he doesn't read other castle's logs for this reason (so as to not embitter the grounds there)
trinque: asciilifeform: and you know, to take the other side of the leucosys thing, this is mircea_popescu's hall. he didn't ban anyone from yours, or mine.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 08:31:54 mircea_popescu: that's how economy works at the scale here discussed, "and if you don't like it, get ready for valleyforge -- if you got it in you".
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934680 << the lever here is the increasing purchasing power of btc or something else? and if it's to remain mp's business and not mine, that's fine too.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:40:47 diana_coman: what I can't quite get in all this is why is asciilifeform fighting mircea_popescu's leucocite-qualities so much and at every occasion?
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935205 << where is the leucosys threshold in diana_coman's view?
trinque: damn, now it has to be good.
trinque: and that said...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:33:17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935131 << for what in '17 ? for writing a working logger ? next, wat, will kick out trinque , so can have 'flurry of exciting, new development' of deedbot ?!
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935191 << what credibility does a hanging have if it can't happen to you too?
trinque: looks to be working correctly with the wallet and deedbot's own commands, lmk if anything misbehaves.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 14:41:34 bvt: trinque: ^ (self-voice somehow got through yestereday on the 2nd attempt)
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935408 << ehhhhh, thanks for letting me know.
BingoBoingo: During the whole hostel stay I don't think I ever saw even the pickiest kiwi substantially distinguish what the smoked beyond relative strength at the extremes. Or visual appearance.
mircea_popescu: s/pinot/wharever the fuck's fashionable nowadays after the latest pretentious film offering provincial ustards "worldliness" on the cheap, gewurtztraminer or w/e it is.
mircea_popescu: actually, i suppose the correct example is "wine snob". yes, anyoen can tell ok wine from piss ; yes particularly talented fellows can actually tell you a lot from a sip. but the vast bulk of neglected aging "careerwomen" getting plastered pretentiously each weekend -- they couldn't tell a pinot from another if poured into milkbottoles first.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 13:53:17 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That part is ~90% plant genetics, and there isn't a Monsanto sorta monopoly on that. Largely for reasons of the folks doing seed development having been more or less effective dissidents. I suspect much of the percieved selectivity of the consumers is applied marketing.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935389 << pothead selectivity is cut of exactly the same cloth as telekinesis.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tested, worx
asciilifeform: ( pet : 'get up, there's a mail bomb for you' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile the ps is here. ( and so is the xy table for the drillings, ~40kg of cast iron ugh in a 20th-c-style wooden coffin )
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/intel-ddio-technology-allows-keystroke-capture-in-ssh-sessions-peripherals-interacting-directly-with-cpu-cache/ << Qntra -- Intel "DDIO" Technology Allows Keystroke Capture In SSH Sessions Peripherals Interacting Directly With CPU Cache
bvt: trinque: ^ (self-voice somehow got through yestereday on the 2nd attempt)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 13:15:14 diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's the minigame.bz -> minigame.biz thing
asciilifeform: hanbot: afaik it was made right after 'submarine', was overtly a riff on subj. ( but based actually on v. f. odoevsky's 1834 short story 'city in the snuffbox' . )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: AHA, 1969. Maybe a second peak in the 80's when the genetics to do closet sized plants hit California.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, supposedly the golden age was back in the day where that deranged dude organised a harem out of the aparently uberabundant cali cunt, to kidnap some people / teach blacks how to rebel.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, other side of the "influential" coin.
BingoBoingo: The economics of weed strike me as similar to mircea_popescu writing about the history of porn. To the extent weed may have had a golden age, that is long gone. The silver/bronze ages are rapidly closing and the DIY amateur glut is going to crush everywhere it hasn't already crushed.
hanbot: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935210 << the yellow submarine cribbing blew my mind, blue meanies and all!
BingoBoingo: All of the pretense to the contrary is exactly that, pretense. I met n>1 fellows down here trying to "bring California quality" to Uruguay. They all pay the bills with jobs tied to the local economy. Their revenues, as best as I can tell, are in the same league as roadside vegetable stands in the middle of nowhere that use an "honor box" as their payment processor. There is probably more money to be had in wool than weed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-10 12:19:26 asciilifeform: not even any kind of new plague. mircea_popescu recall how we had to cut a buncha gifs etc outta pre-trb to bake the genesis.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935373 << ayup. and the svg-ing of mp-wp and so on
BingoBoingo: Today there is not any particular place in cannabis production that demands extraordinary costs relative to other agricultural pursuits aside from the elective submission to various fiat sovereigns
BingoBoingo: The tech's out there and well documented, and the key colloidal silver used to turn the plants sex-weird isn't even something the weed folks make the most noise about.
BingoBoingo: The remaining utility of indoor culture outside of police states is largely in seed production via turning select females hermaphrodite to create lots of feminized seeds.