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deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1F107A00381C3C3D03DF80FB8191F6779204BD1ADE8665F130C37E20F23CAE60 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1781...9389 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '81.3.22.187 (ssh-rsa key from 81.3.22.187 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E499B8A638178EDF07229E9F9670AA397B3436C262293313331E1577D952D65E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1433...7763 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.104.72.92 (ssh-rsa key from 89.104.72.92 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (5725.ovz-n9.hc.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E499B8A638178EDF07229E9F9670AA397B3436C262293313331E1577D952D65E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1760...6387 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.104.72.92 (ssh-rsa key from 89.104.72.92 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (5725.ovz-n9.hc.ru. RU)
asciilifeform: sometimes people write to asciilifeform , 'you're a bore and pompous arse', but fwiw i have to date 0 posts about dieting. or about Eating Eggs While 3133337.
asciilifeform: 'betcha you can't surpass taleb in militant self-aggrandizing mundanity' 'you have yerself a bet!!11'
asciilifeform: and holy shit pete_dushenski... that post. i'ma guess you are writing these on a bet
asciilifeform: betcha some preet chowdhra fella is typesetting a 'bedt of trilema' even nao.
phf: nah, tmsr is like situationists, has the anti-spectacle protective mechanisms builtin. recurepation will be in form of artisanal log excerpts and "Collected Trilema" and such for a special kind of hipster
asciilifeform: phf: re goldreich -- a very specific and deep type of downer, where you find what by all appearances is the definitive, unsurpassed definitional stem of work in $field -- which turns out to be wholly and deliberately useless on $principalquestion
asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins ☟︎
asciilifeform: specifically re the nphard-ciphers thing
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/22/two-months-of-vegganism/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Two months of vEGGanism.
asciilifeform: i actually did try to read'im
phf: *dear, but the other one works too
phf: latest winner would be particularly deer to asciilifeform's heart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oded_Goldreich
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:26 phf: til, there's a "Knuth Prize" that doesn't actually involve knuth. "The Knuth Prize winner is selected by a Prize Committee consisting of six individuals selected by the SIGACT and TCMFC Chairs. In selecting the Knuth Prize winner, the Committee will pay particular attention to a sustained record of high-impact, seminal contributions to the foundations of computer science. The selection may also be partly based on educational accomplishments and contrib
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice
phf: utions such as fundamental textbooks and high-quality students. The award is not based on service work for the community, although service might be included in the citation for a winner if it is appropriate."
phf: til, there's a "Knuth Prize" that doesn't actually involve knuth. "The Knuth Prize winner is selected by a Prize Committee consisting of six individuals selected by the SIGACT and TCMFC Chairs. In selecting the Knuth Prize winner, the Committee will pay particular attention to a sustained record of high-impact, seminal contributions to the foundations of computer science. The selection may also be partly based on educational accomplishments and contrib ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 23:57 TomServo: asciilifeform: what does it say?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673634 << i'm dying, but i'm not surrendering. goodbye, motherland. 7/20/41. fwiw ascii is smart not to translate it, english verbiage doesn't do it justice ☝︎☟︎
TomServo: Also, if someone could share a copy of mp-wp, that'd be swell.
whaack: (not sure whether or not the unfilled buy orders on the way down occurred in this case)
whaack: from what I remember reading about shitfinex, the people with pending bitcoin buy orders at X did not get theirs completed, while at the same time people were forced to sell ("margin called") because price was officially "X-E"
asciilifeform: 1) 'set price to penny' 2) margin calls 3) profit 4) sfyl, tards
asciilifeform: it's sop, as i understand, method for 'exchange' to defraud the idiots who use exchanges.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-22 20:23 shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbjyk4/heres-how-traders-lost-millions-in-the-first-ethereum-flash-crash <<< Lollerz "Some of the affected individuals have already started to organize via a Telegram group with the intention of filing a class action lawsuit against the exchange, but at present GDAX's position is that all margin trades are final, and terms were outlined in advance."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-22#1673590 << where did the butthurt go when kraken, shitfinex, et al did same thing? ☝︎☟︎
erlehmann: i'll read the log again to maybe get a clear picture
trinque: put usually around here as "I just want to"
trinque: "I don't care" is the correct answer.
trinque: in a place that clearly worships this "following the rules of decent discussion"
trinque: then I ask you what the output of all your "the community" and "class not race" noise has been, in your own judgment?
trinque: the republic's forum is not "I will posture on whichever topics don't make me uncomfortable"
BingoBoingo: Eh, German's well on it's way to becoming Far-East-East Saint Louis
trinque: you couldn't have come to a worse place to tell us what it "means to you"
erlehmann: trinque i don't actually want to have a conversation about invasion, because i don't particularly care. i came here because of the v versionatron and because i liked the attitude behind that.
trinque: anyhow lets all just tweet now, eh?
erlehmann: ben_vulpes i think identifying as trans-black or something might top it, depending on circumstances
erlehmann: Framedragger it is the one where vampires can't do VR because they have autism and see the pixels.
ben_vulpes: trinque: oh hey while on the topic, best way to wind up modern genderbenders, blacklivesmatter et al feebs is to "i mean sure, but isn't that all just embedded in the class struggle?"
trinque: "I don't want to have a conversation re: invasion, so lets instead belabor whether we're all behaving ourselves."
Framedragger: erlehmann: it's the one where (logreaders, spoilers) alien intelligence which is actually intelligent is not conscious, right?
trinque: erlehmann | asciilifeform you mean conflict is classist, not racist. << the fuck kind of grandmother-pleasing behavior is this?
Framedragger: actually, i had started reading that one, too!!
Framedragger: erlehmann: original url http://fan.lib.ru/e/eskov/last_ringlord.shtml ; translation url above ; older LJ link gives more context: http://ymarkov.livejournal.com/270570.html
erlehmann: vice forgot to include that ethereum transactions are indeed reverseable, but only when core developers lose money.
shinohai: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbjyk4/heres-how-traders-lost-millions-in-the-first-ethereum-flash-crash <<< Lollerz "Some of the affected individuals have already started to organize via a Telegram group with the intention of filing a class action lawsuit against the exchange, but at present GDAX's position is that all margin trades are final, and terms were outlined in advance." ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> you probably would not want bottom 10% of arkansas moving in , either. << FUcking peckerwood trash
Framedragger: oh there's a .de translation apparently, but can't attest to quality
Framedragger: i *think* http://ymarkov.livejournal.com/280578.html , digging thru bookmarks
Framedragger: 'tis not bad, but read only small part. decent ru->en translation by a guy on livejournal (not joking, promise)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and then 4th stage is the 'gentrifying' sections of detroit, that are being rebuilt into masses of cardboard condos that sell for $1M. << St Louis appears to want to go from 3 to 4, but uncertain if three can really be moved past
Framedragger: and how the elves with gandalf conspired to rewrite story ("written by the victors" and all that), and ring was actually a side plot to distract people
Framedragger: you may be interested in "the last rinbearer" by a russian geologist (iirc), tells ring tale from perspective of mordor on a brink of industrial revolution
trinque: I'm still eagerly awaiting a description of these roving gangs of car burners. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <trinque> or is it the invaders that are actually torching cars in these towns << Yes, so "not crime"(TM)(R) because "honored guests
erlehmann: Framedragger i actually meant “i had not noticed to that extent until now how tolkien tells a story that can be seen as a race war”
erlehmann: e.g. i rarely encounter black people when going to the supermarket
erlehmann: fact of the matter is i have not enough reference points
BingoBoingo: <Framedragger> plenty of folks quite content living their frugal lives (in e.g. leipzig, from what i hear, to be particular), i guess #t doesn't think much of them, i happen to have friends, what do. if bitch at 5% rent increase, sure, not much sympathy from me << Better to be frugal and not poor
trinque: fact of the matter is that he is not permitted to say.
asciilifeform: ( are they 'a race' ..? lol )
asciilifeform: erlehmann: i enjoy a number of things, from turkish military marches to turkish sweets. but it is different q from 'do i want the bottom economic 10% of turkey moving in next door' ☟︎
erlehmann: asciilifeform i enjoy turkish and kurdish food, but otherwise, no idea.
asciilifeform: so consider plox answering the q as stated ☟︎
asciilifeform: erlehmann: but plenty in berlin today
erlehmann: asciilifeform i spent years of my youth in a remote boarding school inside an old monastery building. not many turks or africans there.
Framedragger: erlehmann: "blatant racism" is an empty label here, and won't carry the same "prescriptive power" as elsewhere. that said, maybe you meant "heuristic generalisations are dangerous" (my (overcharitable) interpretation)
asciilifeform: ... and how about the african 'syrians' ?
asciilifeform: erlehmann: would you describe germany+turks as more habitable, enjoyable, interesting place than the germany sans turks you grew up in ? ☟︎
erlehmann: well, i think when i arrive people often tend to think i want to convince them of something. i often do not want and do not care as much as other think i do.
Framedragger: just to balance things
trinque: I think when I arrived I thought the place was a bunch of red-pillers
trinque: maybe they still will get worked out
Framedragger: rehashing *conclusions* of tmsr dogma does not do much good. (i guess counter to that is "we don't have time for proper free education", which is fair). ☟︎
asciilifeform: sometimes -- they work themselves out. sometimes -- not.
ben_vulpes: 'new blood' from trinque and mircea_popescu
trinque: who the hell is this guy, even
erlehmann: i think it is fairly plausible that the description of “orcs” can be read as some kind of blatant racism – “black-skinned”, “brutish”, “slant-eyed” … ☟︎
asciilifeform: and then 4th stage is the 'gentrifying' sections of detroit, that are being rebuilt into masses of cardboard condos that sell for $1M.
asciilifeform: i have nfi what is the 3rd stage. but i suspect that it looks like detroit -- which in turn, looked like berlin in '45
asciilifeform: you can observe this 2nd stage in, e.g., city of baltimore, usa.
asciilifeform: eventually ~everyone gets ~same shit-flat made of shitboard, but with ~slightly~ varying proximity to orc pit.
asciilifeform: the second stage of this cancer is when market begins to segment SOLELY based on orc proximity -- i.e. your house costs moar, or less, ~strictly based on how much orc you are willing to tolerate in everyday life, and not, say, based on size, or whether it is made from brick or shitboard ☟︎
asciilifeform: rpriced flat but to put some distance b/w you and Them.
asciilifeform: erlehmann: there is an american-'patented' style of rent-seeking scam that is now being 'enjoyed' in europe, incl., as i understand, in your berlin. which goes like this : 1) import a horde of raping, pillaging orcs from some fuckhole 2) prohibit 'discrimination' against'em. now the only permitted means of excluding them from being your neighbours is... price. 3) landlords rake in the dough, because now you gotta pay not only for ove
erlehmann: berlin is special, partially because both east and west used it to show off. ☟︎
erlehmann: trinque it is about the specific history of berlin.
erlehmann: fefe also made a podcast in 2017 with the same guy (andrej holm) https://alternativlos.org/40/
trinque: you think the same stupid arguments aren't raised every time someone improves a neighborhood anywhere else?
erlehmann: if you understand german, i can recommend this about gentrification (from 2010) https://www.kuechenstud.io/kuechenradio/episode/kr268-gentrifizierung/
trinque: "I chose this" is I suppose one way to cope with the dick buried in your ass.
erlehmann: they have skin in the game, so to say
erlehmann: trinque refugees intend to become residents, not transients.
trinque: or is it the invaders that are actually torching cars in these towns
trinque: erlehmann: please bridge the gap for me between "country that is welcoming a flood of foreign invaders" and "omg haet tourists, I'll torch your car" ☟︎
lobbes: ben_vulpes: if the "community" can't soak people who want to come there and spend money adequately to make tourism +ev for the hosts incl. cities, how can they even justify continuing to live << I grew up on The Cod in Massachusetts; "working class" locals were always bitching about how much they hated tourists, but that tourism $$$ is the ~only~ thing sustaining that particular sandbar. Fishing is dead, and retail and landscaping indus ☟︎
erlehmann: the trivial solution is piss disc
asciilifeform: 'move to cheaper' is not same as 'be less poor'