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cazalla: i guess ddos is back :\
asciilifeform: but i (or anyone else here) could sit for a week, coughing up examples of this, and not come close to running out
joecool: yeah i see it
thomas_d: yo i registered
asciilifeform: i think that actually hangs in the hall where he works.
asciilifeform: i have personally only taken a swim in the larger tank, the former
mircea_popescu: out of the 100k or so academics trudging for us-academia-wot, how many are likely to publish their research like i do, on trilema, just like that ?
asciilifeform: at any rate, i can imagine only with great difficulty that a usg cryptologist of any actual stature (that is, creator of, or even privy to, a 'crown jewel') would be permitted to make public so much as a newspaper ad for a dog walker, much less a document pertaining to his profession.
asciilifeform: now that this came up, i will say that i have seen this alive
asciilifeform: reading the ancient 'cryptolog', i can almost hear a tone of voice
asciilifeform: for all i know, lizard hitler rides elevator with me every day
mircea_popescu: i would bet you 100% have.
asciilifeform: i, for example, don't even know what he looks like
mircea_popescu: i think most.
asciilifeform: ergo i need to be chumped with paper
asciilifeform: if question specifically concerns 'animal magnetism' - difficult to answer. most of the chumpatronic work involved, i doubt would win from this stratagem. i, for instance, have never (to my knowledge) been within musket distance of a live cryptographer (of whatever variety)
asciilifeform: i'd have picked him based on his 'street cred' from his service in the '90s crypto wars
asciilifeform: not being one of the designated chumps in question, i'd ask for a subverted greybeard. but i am not a doctor of chumpatronics, and may be naive here.
mircea_popescu: here's a q for you asciilifeform : if i were the big bad and you were my officer in charge of fucking nerdcore up, and the strategy was, "inject a person whom on the basis of sheer animal magnetism can be used to steer things ways",
thomas_d: I'm in an entry-level IT position
thomas_d: but I go by thomas dick
asciilifeform: chetty: i've found the letter in question: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/12.63.html#subj1
thomas_d: I should introduce myself anyway my name is thomas dick I'm a noob
xanthyos: bagels7 had the same error i think
thomas_d: I just did it about 30 seconds ago
asciilifeform: 'Desmedt referred to a letter written by Marty Hellman criticizing NIST. I had all but forgotten about Hellman; he has not been active on cryptologic scene in many years, and I've always had doubts about his moral principles (by contrast, I regard Rivest as being above all this dirt).'
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: hence, i'd take with 'grain of salt'
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/actual-bitcoin-corporations-abcs-versus-fiat-based-frauds-trying-to-masquerade-as-bitcoin-companies-while-masquerading-as-companies-in-the-first-place-on-the-solid-theory-that-the-general-public-i/
asciilifeform: (who censored it, and why? i'd love to know)
jurov: i have seen it when you linked it recently
jurov: um. i'm not convinced that ever worked
jurov: okay i did not mean lisp as such, but the architecture as a whole
asciilifeform: i cannot say for certain what these things would 'weigh' on such a machine, but can definitely bet that they would weigh considerably less (in terms of code complexity or sheer physical space) than on modern arch.
jurov: i dunno
jurov: i once read a piece on what everything is expected of today's text input field - clipboard handling, mouse selection, bidi input, undo/redo, font redering,...
asciilifeform: one of the things i often, usually to no avail, try to explain to people, is that there is no such thing as 'efficiency.' there is only efficiency -at- something.
jurov: i heard it has denser code(closer to c) and thus better cache effectivity
asciilifeform: kakobrekla is posting through time warp from 1985? i don't recall seeing 'risc' or 'cisc' mentioned on a crate, since, i don't know when
asciilifeform: i must be missing something
kakobrekla: i did say sticker only.
ben_vulpes: if as you suspect it has to do with the cooccurrence of running out of memory and writing to bdb, i'll have to let it run for a while
kakobrekla: mats_cd03 i do.
mats_cd03: i wonder if kako has a proxy for assbot
jurov: bitbethelp accused me of inadequate politeness cuz i did not respond timely to pm and in one breath promised coinbr is next after qntra
BingoBoingo: I have to assume that's most of what they do now.
mircea_popescu: i always wondered what % of "operations" end when group #1 doing "undercover work" catches group #2.
mircea_popescu: bitbethelp> cazalla, nor did I lose anything. it's not about the attempts where you don't get anything, but the attempts you succeed. << what is this fucktardry, srsly.
mircea_popescu: i never met one b4.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, didn't mean i had to believe it
bitbethelp: cazalla, why do you still have this assumption i'm trying to extort you into paying me?
cazalla: bitbethelp, you give me the excuse i need to drink so have at it
bitbethelp: cazalla, nor did I lose anything. it's not about the attempts where you don't get anything, but the attempts you succeed.
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/2oMV0Nv.jpg << hey look thermos is well being thermos
BingoBoingo: I'm up learly today
cazalla: once i hit my teens and refused to go and was willing to take a beating if it meant i could play doom, domino effect kicked in and family stopped going
cazalla: araound 5 i mean
cazalla: rare here as well, when i was around, my parents each lost a brother within 6 months so that opened the door for the jws to get their hooks in with the paradise earth bullshit
punkman: pretty rare around here, but I've seen the odd flyer
asciilifeform: why ilkka did this - i do not know. some necromancer here can perhaps resurrect him and ask.
mircea_popescu: i remember the times i could say an article in five pages
ben_vulpes: i exaggerate
ben_vulpes: i'll be quite amused if i fail to wedge it
ben_vulpes: in any event i've gotten the thing to 240000
mircea_popescu: meh, i dun wanna support x or y's closed platform.
ben_vulpes: honestly i'd just rather have it on my kindle than flip through whatever's in the mail
ben_vulpes: i'm actually thinking about bitcoin databases so nothing w/r/t asylum
asciilifeform: i think they want the cover & the turkish bubblegum smell.
assbot: I wrote a book… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/i-wrote-a-book/ << click 1st link.
ben_vulpes: 's what i suspected at least.
mircea_popescu: cazalla BingoBoingo others : ok, i *think* the bad routing thing may be fixed.
ben_vulpes: (just paranoia i suppose)
ben_vulpes: i'm digging, but hints would be lovely
mircea_popescu: i dun see it.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: except everyone, i think, knows this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i tell you, if i was the provost i wouldn't have made the offer.
mircea_popescu: decimation for the record, as one coming from an actually multicultural world, i am both offended at the misuse of the term and would pray you don't discard an actually superior mode of human life
mircea_popescu: and i dare think if he had a tenured position this would have been a non issue
decimation: I guess
mircea_popescu: and i can read, just like him.
mircea_popescu: but... wait. i make more than whatever tenured prof makes.
mircea_popescu: i switched from romanian to english jus' fine.
joecool: mircea_popescu: i'm just surprised nobody else wrote about it, i doubt they get huge volume searching for things, but still, nothing mentioned about it
joecool: asciilifeform: heh yeah i ran some other searches I knew worked before (like linus's first linux announcement on comp.os.minix), it's gone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is a standard usg 'lie detector.' << the funny thing is, i dunno if the scientologists copied the ohmmeter after the usg "lie detector", or vice-versa, the fbi is tring to find yout tethans
decimation: I wrote too soon, qntra and trilema are both down for me now right now
decimation: I note that our volunteer testers seem to have left whatever routing tables they were messing with alone
mircea_popescu: i was mostly giving you a hard time :D
decimation: re: gavin's 40 hr week << I was merely pointing out that if ascii's formula is (freedom hrs)/(work hrs), then gavin might have a good score
joecool: i just went to groups.google.com and ran a search and it popped up a few usenet newsgroups and some results mostly from usenet
undata: mircea_popescu: I can't pull up trilema here either
mircea_popescu: cazalla as per usual.... i see it jus' fine.
mircea_popescu: "if you don't wash your hands you get dysentery" "really ? .... hmm.... maybe, but i tihnk it's the will of god... i have my amulets with me..."
asciilifeform: is it really possible that i'm the only one who noticed ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: note also my observation last week, that i intensely suspect 'google usenet archive' was zapped not on account of any accident
mircea_popescu: for a while i used to say it (back when i was dealing with romanians). it did... exactly zero difference.
mircea_popescu: to this day, and shockingly, i write about church ? ppl are "oh, you're jealous"
mircea_popescu: but this doesn't change the fact that nobody did it, nor does it change the fact that i'm principally hated for that reason, my agents have been principally hated for that reason
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sarge << i don't consider non-source-based distro as suitable for serious work