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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 19:01:43 asciilifeform: and incidentally, if asciilifeform cannot actually supply the service mp_en_viaje needs (e.g. if he needs a 24/7 staff of 4 working in shifts ) would rather know about it sooner than later.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 21:06:21 mp_en_viaje: and i do not say this idly ; i have made my own experiments as well as seen others', very EXPENSIVE, experiments in the same vein all over the world. people regularly sink billion+ in "tech incubator" producing nothing comparable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: uninterested -- then uninterested. and i'd rather find out nao, than later, so ty. i dun have the capital to spend fulltime, and find it odd that mp_en_viaje only nao realized this.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:18:47 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is this actual q, or simply constructed to give asciilifeform a banana to slip on ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:21:18 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: propaganda/l2 growth is ~the~ project. and req's asciilifeform's 'weak arm' to properly exercise. which is 1 of the reasons i took up 'bake isp again'. but presently weak arm. intent is to use strong arm to build exercise machine for weak, among other.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:02:14 mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> no, i'm not interested in sending you a harddrive so maybe you'll do something whatever in your garage.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 18:54:30 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i promise -- not to.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i did not get chance to actually read any of it, and dun know when will, atm. comment strictly re interesting titles..
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 13:18:47 deedbot: diana_coman rated jfw 2 << my pageboy; writes at http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-23 asciilifeform: guten tag diana_coman . you may have noticed, i put back the bot . it was synced with the new autosyncer that was to get deployed right before piz burned down. i'ma put it as vpatch, but prolly wont get chance this wk, hands full w/ 2nd draft of ispism.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 12:36:29 diana_coman: spyked: ha, that vpatch is interesting, I never really used the init part.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947784 << will say this : several folx expressed interest. but presently i do not know if will have ~any~ takers: for instance mp & diana_coman have very specific reqs that i dunno if can in fact fill. they might have to make own, heavy-industrial hosting system. all depends there on outcome of the costs-draft-then-flame process. i do not want to somehow bamboozle folx into buying pr
deedbot: diana_coman rated jfw 2 << my pageboy; writes at http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:38:08 mp_en_viaje: and since doing this, hey spyked ? you ever been across ocean ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 14:51:29 mp_en_viaje: people ~never change the machine names ; websites come and go. so i'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of the internet's like that.
asciilifeform: and incidentally, if asciilifeform cannot actually supply the service mp_en_viaje needs (e.g. if he needs a 24/7 staff of 4 working in shifts ) would rather know about it sooner than later.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
asciilifeform: ( concretely : 4 'dulap'-style units , while (w/ mp_en_viaje-corrected set of constants) putting op +240 in +ev, in fact exhausts the energy allotment (not overruns, but leaves room only for rk plant.) and there already were requested, counting everyone who answered, tentatively 4 dulap's worth . (5 if counting shared-box) . )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not done w/ the 2nd set of numerics yet, but seems i may have ~opposite~ problem atm
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 15:03:50 asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:42:27 mp_en_viaje: anyway, i suppose the logical next step is for the remarkably productive bvt to do some benchmarking re speed of possible candidates (a list including atm the chacha and serpent -- knowledgeable folk feel free to propose more candidates) so as to have some practical basis.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:39:48 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947561 - I can see that; my thinking was not towards using sha1 but more towards permitting other-than-serpent mainly because 1. serpent is still snake-oil and only adopted-for-lack-of-better option afaik b. maybe tmsr makes its own hash function next year or something (ha!)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 05:46:09 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: why mandate a specific hash function (esp given that there isn't any clear way to base such mandate on "this is best hashing")?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:58:56 mp_en_viaje: and thanks bvt, megaworks there.
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947554 << and ty, mircea_popescu, diana_coman!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:32:27 mp_en_viaje: i also kinda like the idea of permitting each user to pick his own rng-hash-crypto key.
bvt: ftr diana_coman's keccak is 1.7 MB/s on my machine @ 100% CPU utilization.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:31:48 mp_en_viaje: imo doing 3.2:1 is seriously problematic
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:29:31 mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/ << the most important q here is, are we going to mandate serpent ? or are we going to permit legacy sha1/chacha ?
asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )
asciilifeform: tangentially, other mp_en_viaje point -- anyone readily recall how to banish mutilation of quotes from wp? ( aka 'microshit quotes' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman & mp_en_viaje are the king/queen of the prospective customer base, by weight, and so if no one adds anyffin in next few hrs, i'ma work w/ what's been given so far for draft 2.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: moar in brief re expansions (will address pedantically in draft 2) -- they will have to be financed by actual revenue, and BingoBoingo-style auctions, i do not have massive capital (and what i have, is earmarked for physical irons, already ordered 'dulaps' and will be purchasing yet-moar of'em once it becomes clear that asciilifeform won't live alone in the rack)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re rk -- i included rk plant from the following logic : 1) it was best-selling product in era of piz 2) i am sitting on a crate of brand-new rk that did not get invoiced to piz or get to fly 3) pre-existing interest ( e.g. diana_coman's ) in inexpensive www mirrors.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'fully populate' i expect will happen quickly when l1 finds prospectus satisfactory. e.g. 4 'dulap'-type boxen and 1 shared-www per BingoBoingo's schematic already exhausts the energy supply. at which pt i'ma expand to full tower. and diana_coman is right imho, this oughta be detailed in 2nd draft.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:33:16 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946136 << yup, and once he chases a different skirt in a week or two again, "problems" again and so on.
asciilifeform: 'this is rubbish, not a proper plan' is not an eggog that i can work from, diana_coman . need detailed 'why, idjit, didntcha explain x?'
asciilifeform: but will have to be specific crit, like mp_en_viaje's.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if it wasn't clear from thrd, i intend to give the askers what they are asking.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's simple logical consistency. why apply 1 standard for rack where park 0.1btc of box, and an entirely diff for wallet where park dozens of btc ?
asciilifeform: that being said, if diana_coman has specific 'what about x', plox to comment, i'ma address in 2nd draft along w/ mp_en_viaje's crit.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:11:38 diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice to see the calculations for sure; let me add though that this draft is still not a business plan
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947559 << diana_coman what, in your pov, is missing, that mp_en_viaje did not mention ? ( and incidentally did e.g. trinque ever publish biz plan / expense sheet for walletron? )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:10:10 diana_coman: asciilifeform: since 1 IP per rack anyway, I don't quite see the sense in keeping this all the time separate and then pushed in as an add-on etc. I'd calculate the Te to include IPs enough for a full rack and that's it; sure, additional IPs are additional and then naturally add-ons but that's separate anyway.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:06:50 diana_coman: asciilifeform: the monthly overhead at $50 seems rather low to me - did you do any sort of estimate re how much of your *time* this will eat? (only considering that you'll spend 40 minutes just going back and forth each time you need to physically go there and that probably assuming good traffic etc)
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947557 << the idea was that time is amply compensated by the margin. (certainly w/ mp_en_viaje's 45% figure, it will be!)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:32:27 mp_en_viaje: i also kinda like the idea of permitting each user to pick his own rng-hash-crypto key.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:29:31 mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/10/fg-fed-linux-rng/ << the most important q here is, are we going to mandate serpent ? or are we going to permit legacy sha1/chacha ?
asciilifeform: other omissions in the draft include FG -- i dun presently have a 'equip erryone who asks' supply of'em here. can equip mp_en_viaje & co, but others will have to wait for wat-do re recovery of FG from piz crater
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: nitpick to commentary posted.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i sewed in your commentary re costs by hand.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:24:44 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 00:57:27 mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you feel like taking the tiny concert goer over to cr for a coupla weeks ? you pick up your own airfare ima cover your stay with the fellow.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-10-05 13:08:17 mircea_popescu: which is the point here : using ANYTHING made by usg.vc.* is risky, and opens one to various liabilities downstream. including among them - that you will be unwound.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-07-14 21:30:25 mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 13:08:52 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I am all for hosting it with asciilifeform but tbh I would very much want him to publish an actual business plan on his blog.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: why mandate a specific hash function (esp given that there isn't any clear way to base such mandate on "this is best hashing")?
asciilifeform: aite, will then post mp_en_viaje's crit manually when wake up. ( and eat into draft 2, lotsa good point )
asciilifeform: can persuade mp_en_viaje to xor ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: for my debuggification, what was the xor prompt when got 'wrong' ?
trinque: mp_en_viaje and billymg, thanks for the offers! I just got in from a vacation, so I'll need to attend to things a while before another. but would love to!
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how come moldavia 35eu tho..
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's strange, i was convinced ~errybody~ would flame re 'outlandish prices'
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-11 09:48:26 mp_en_viaje: and in other morning lulz, oh look! "ddos" failing both the d- and the -dos portions! YOU KNOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO DENY SERVICE RITE
billymg: mp_en_viaje: you read my mind, was thinking it could serve as a lord's retreat spot. trinque or anyone else in l1 would certainly be welcome
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yes! blog post and pics coming
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: do you address'em in deutsch, so to instantly trigger lordosis ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: how's czechia ?
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 17:18:41 mp_en_viaje: easily the worst part of my example is the "und die hundert millionen in meinem schatz" / "money is no object" "battleship mp" part.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 16:34:01 asciilifeform: diana_coman: currently your box looks like this. it'll be sat down on iron DIN rail w/ additional forced air when i put this in, it is still snailing its way through the mails.
asciilifeform: ( earlier was wondering, how the moldavian d00d charges 35eu per 1u. but diana_coman's bandwidth tests seem to suggest the answer.
asciilifeform: ^ mp_en_viaje , diana_coman , & all other panzers, achtung!
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Will set that pick up date and thank the local cops.
asciilifeform polishing off the scientific cost analysis piece, but grr prolly wont finish until after mp_en_viaje asleep...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:17:01 trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:24:43 mp_en_viaje: ircd exists not as much as support for great mighty lords and their sayings ; but as the central star of individually worthless masses of zeks
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:15:43 mp_en_viaje: meaning that i'll be confronted with a very http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-02#1926167 situation in six months' time, something that's evident to ~anyone paying any attention at all, and so liable to eschew mention.
trinque: mp_en_viaje: bumped the max upload to 40M for ya. on the other two points, I said I'd do these, but I'm also being plain about my intent to run castle trinque as a net-positive entity. I'll figure that part out myself.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 04:26:22 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946968 << for some reason i thought the foundation had equity.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, myeah. it's funny how universal, and how hard-core, if "subtle" the political choices one makes shape the output.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: 0 notion of that I would say, what respect
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 17:20:58 mp_en_viaje: i have been keeping a (quite public, at that) log of a wide reaching "where is it not raining" research project. expensive enough, too, i've been burning 4 figures/day, every day, since ~april. not that the point is how to make it cheapest or anything
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 10:25:23 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: should I set her up with a ftp account on logs.ossasepia.com?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-08-02 02:14:00 mp_en_viaje: o look at that, phf logger also quit sometime last night. hey!
ossabot: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely
deedbot: mp_en_viaje voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: !!up mp_en_viaje
diana_coman: morning highway-mp_en_viaje
trinque: I'm willing to do that because mp_en_viaje is cool, even though I don't think otherwise said item will have enough throughput for a % to be worthwhile
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I haven't built any hot-wallet features to date aside the stuff running deedbot's !!deed, parts of which can be repurposed for what you want.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: if the "lorem ipsum dolor..." counts, then yes.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: presently occupied with ^ .
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 13:08:52 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I am all for hosting it with asciilifeform but tbh I would very much want him to publish an actual business plan on his blog.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that thing is on insulator pedestal, under it is a 3mm steel sliding plinth. the temp in the dc is a comfortable ~20C when i last measured. (surprisingly, very quiet vs latech's, they have civilized freon cooling, entire back lot fulla chiller towers. and, interestingly, coupla thou. litres of genuine pre-ban halon 1301 for fire suppression.)