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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but
this also means you get secure sub 10k devices.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 09:07 sina: once long ago, I ran a
tor hidden service
that allowed anyone
to execute any command
they liked on it, as a deanonymisation challenge
shinohai: asciilifeform: doesn't `jacobstoner`
tell you all you need
to know? >.<
mircea_popescu: i can
talk with guys who don't know about boats any number of places!
trinque: also have
to be able
to verify responses yourself
trinque: async is always way easier
to manage
mircea_popescu: i have ~no expectation for machine
to entertain me. all i expect is for it
to do work.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i expect
the unix "Shell" is very much "poor man's ai". specifically "we can't get it
to laugh at your jokes or suck your cock, but here's
the best we can do, it's almost as if you're
talking
to it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes,
there is
that. but... at least PARTS of bitcoin are not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a shell is an artefact of
technology, like say
the "eingeer's" coal shovel.
mircea_popescu: the key elements are a) specify a quanta and b) let
them either get
to it or not. some will.
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter -- bitcoin is computed by a) 1024 flickering nodes
that b) lose data or processing all
the
time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're lucky, some've been
trying since 1955.
ben_vulpes: shinohai:
they don't make keyboards for fingers
that large
shinohai: If a black mayogendered
tgirl writes code, will
the universe implode?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes oh right right, fucking
two midgets ~= fucking one swede. i forgot.
mircea_popescu: this is how conversations go -- if you're
talking
to alf, he's gonna mention it himself ; if
talking
to anyone else, you hit
them over
the head with it.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, but
they make up for it with genderswappers
mircea_popescu: well, at least
there's (11.5/2)% or so black chicks among
them yes ?
ben_vulpes: to quote #programmer-therapy: "i just sat clicking at a recaptcha for five minutes before it would accept
that i'm human."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know
this is strangely how "artificial intelligence" as well as "quantum computing" work out ?
ben_vulpes: "the guys down
the office keep giving us hardons with
the homomorphic encryption stuff but every
time we sit down
to discuss numbers it
turns out
to be computationally infeasible so uh here's
this rest layer over postgres so you don't have
to
touch
the dirty dirty phone numbers yourselves"
mircea_popescu: anyway. even if you get
to keep data but not computation, may be enough.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly
the whole fucking point of "malleable encryption" is ~give or
take
to make lubby for computation.
mircea_popescu: the whole point is --
that it's not clear
to me
this is an unaproachable limit.
mircea_popescu: yes but now we're down
the
tree discussing
types of flicker.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re "how many activities" -- it's not so clear
to me, and moreover
the consensus of hardware farmers (as opposed
to coders) is
that
there's not much reason
this absolutely should be
the case, other
than,
to quote, "largely a lack of originality in
the
types of commands executed".
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 08:20 mircea_popescu:
the
typical botnet is what, a bunch of fridges sending ntp requests ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 08:09 mircea_popescu: interesting. what was
the problem with it ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 08:03 sina: it's a linux kernel feature you can use
to limit which syscalls a program has access
to...the original version of seccomp allowed only read()/write()/exit() syscalls
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 07:41 sina: can change
tcp for udp, can change sql for flatfile, can change python for syslang
shinohai: I promise if Framedragger ever gets her
to show up here and !~tits
to give here a +1 ^.^
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of jurov from 1
to 2 << #trilema #eulora coinbr.com
deedbot: shinohai rated
TomServo 1 << #trilema Working on
trb node
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 15:16 Framedragger: more like, i learned
things from her
trinque: ftr it's nonsense
to cry "ad hominem" when I'm criticizing *people*.
Framedragger: ah or not because probably no proper response. i mean, i ack
the contradiction.
shinohai: "Wright also reiterated
that he’s ready
to
take legal action against
those who have ridiculed his claim of being
the creator of Bitcoin, which he made back in 2016. "
☟︎ Framedragger: this ad hominem (some ad hominems are completely valid,
that i understand) is orthogonal
to
technical knowledge and its conveyance
to other people. i know
that
there is no apolitical knowledge and you maybe can't separate
the
two, but i
think sometimes it's possible,
to an extent.
☟︎ trinque: they use crypto
to hide under
the bed;
they don't use it
to swear, or be named.
trinque: Framedragger:
that "crypto-anarchist"
thing is exactly a continuation of
the american notion of "omg it's a free country, can do whatever I want"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 08:12 mircea_popescu: which depends on deedbot payments, which reminds me... how's
that going
trinque ?
trinque:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-30#1677141 << hadn't had a chance
to pick it up for a bit; got
time
this weekend
though. item I've got can maintain balances, send and mark-paid invoices. I
think I'll handle deposits manually and call
that a first cut,
trb address
tracking without a privkey isn't
there yet.
☝︎☟︎ trinque: and "tor is a
thing, really, because reasons" ?
Framedragger: ftr i respect her a lot,
tmsr and me will have
to agree
to disagree
trinque: you didn't even get
to bang Iris Buttcruft did you.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 09:18 mircea_popescu:
take Framedragger for instance.
scriba: Logged on 2017-06-29: [18:10:49] <mircea_popescu>
this view is correct -- while usg stands, it is shameful for man
to work. man must steal.
Framedragger: "the former has regulationz and policies
to protect it!" doesn't sound very
tmsr
to me, hm
mircea_popescu: having
the item running can't hurt in any case. if it gets owned, you learn a lesson. if it doesn't, it ... works.
sina: mircea_popescu: *el paso
theme song* why not both?