asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i used to eat with this.

asciilifeform: or hinchliffe's 'molecular mod. for beginnerz'

asciilifeform: for starters.

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: andrew leach, 'molecular modelling principles'

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it is actually because we do not have good models.

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: nope

asciilifeform: mainly on account of the models being shit.

asciilifeform: meanwhile them pyramids not doing so hot.

asciilifeform: (a fella from buenos aires, lulzily)

asciilifeform: the lot at my mechanic's shop is like this.

asciilifeform: (or at least threaten to)

asciilifeform: i bet 'hummers' turn over like dominoes

asciilifeform: aha?

asciilifeform: woah, that parking !

asciilifeform: buenos dias señor popescu

asciilifeform: i almost envy BingoBoingo - not even missionaries come to my house any longer.

asciilifeform: (of the stratospheric variety)

asciilifeform: last i heard, they were doing balloons

asciilifeform: it is still there. i haven't visited in years.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: was in decrepit ancient church, even

asciilifeform: phf: everything was either entirely dead or half-worked

asciilifeform: phf: aha, we had this.

asciilifeform unfamiliar with term

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: wat's a murder-duplex

asciilifeform: fwiw i routinely have 3-4 white vans parked outside. snore.

asciilifeform: why bother ?

asciilifeform: but driving menacingly past your house ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i mean, it is one thing if they break the door with demolition charges, drag you out in your nighties, and take you to 'the farm' where you can sit in the coke machine and cough out private key bits for 20 yrs.

asciilifeform: what's it to you.

asciilifeform: i mean, say 241st tank regiment rolls down your street every morning ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what'd be the point?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: https://www.google.com/maps/@8.155203,-77.6980472,15579m/data=!3m1!1e3 << astonishingly abysmal res

asciilifeform: phf: i tried the 'hackerspace' thing, at its best it was an ick

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mordor-ba

asciilifeform will point out that airplane ticket costs less than any truck outside of a scrapyard

asciilifeform: will need pontoons, on that truck..

asciilifeform: then anything bigger than a lift cabin is burned $ ☟︎

asciilifeform: imho 'posh flat' is really 'worst of both worlds' - but that's just me.

asciilifeform: where you gonna put the lathe

asciilifeform: but it's a flat

asciilifeform: so what did trinque see

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wouldn't that be a collectible and costly rarity ?

asciilifeform: or what

asciilifeform: with vaginal controls ?

asciilifeform: but they also had elektron microscope ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and this is something like the size & shape of avg. american folk from twain's time, even.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: not in this sense

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293507 << BingoBoingo really must show up to next conf. because i picture him as a character straight from mark twain ☝︎

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: he explained it to me, yes

asciilifeform: most of them end in 'and she went to med school'

asciilifeform: plenty of folks have tales involving these

asciilifeform: related how

asciilifeform: wai wut

asciilifeform: rather than ab initio ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at any rate, 'plausible synthesis' has a rough meaning. ask PeterL perhaps to explain in detail. but yes, synthetic vitamin B was a nobel. beyond a certain point of complexity, one tries to harness living things to crap out the goods

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2013#378367 << thread. ☝︎

asciilifeform: bawat

asciilifeform: hm

asciilifeform: !s glove girl

asciilifeform: (and the occasional lab gurl with holes in gloves...)

asciilifeform: which would then be tested on cell culture; followed by rodents

asciilifeform: they would come back in crated vials.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ran models, churning through astonishing qty of cpu cycle, and sent off db entries to orc lands for synthesis

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had a db from u.s. national cancer institute of a few million plausibly-synthesizable compounds, largely of unknown effect (never organizedly fed to any living thing)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suppose i ought to clarify where i learned the figure and how.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thread was about commercial organic chem

asciilifeform: or how does it work

asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: and when you get sc4mz0r3d, take wrong pill, croak, does your ghost negrate the test house ?

asciilifeform: and the price of pharma

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: context was a thread re: organic chem

asciilifeform: so banned because 'wtf, deviant'

asciilifeform: but the uniform prohibition on every conceivable thing that diddles neurons, ~is~ an organized usgism

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure. usg did not build on empty space

asciilifeform: it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who smoked pot when ro was 'unaligned' ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as a start

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes

asciilifeform: thing is, dope in usg (and 'international treaties' as they presently exist are ~pure~ usgtronics) is not about dope, but about empire. if tomorrow no one wanted to snort coke, something else (can you say warez?) takes its place as excuse to feed standing army of stormtroopers

asciilifeform: ick

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, coca is own chewing gum..

asciilifeform: 'where they cut off your lips if they don't like your smile....!' (tm) (r) (disney)

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: 'war on substances' - other

asciilifeform: 'shoot people for being asshats' is one thing

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'not sell' != 'shoot people for selling'

asciilifeform: phf: a rewrite of the whole thing is required. and was, from day 1. and this is where we get to the boojum - apparently nobody wants this.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: today. largely because dope (and the only dope that ever really caught on in su was meth & heroin) is seen as a popcontrol weapon of the west

asciilifeform: it's just this device that tells me that usg is still alive and strong.

asciilifeform: i do not actually ~need the dope personally~

asciilifeform: it is a barometer.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody sane sells soda pop either

asciilifeform: you will end up substituting virtually everything. which is what the phoundation folks did.

asciilifeform: phf: i can force it just fine. this leads to immediate segfault because all kinds of structures continue to refer to the tx.

asciilifeform: phf: substantially trickier

asciilifeform: funkenstein_: which is why i say to mircea_popescu, 'usg is dead when you can tell me what country to visit where cocaine is sold next to soap for a penny a pound'