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asciilifeform: ..?

asciilifeform misread above as 'will never eat'

asciilifeform stuffs new pin into map.

asciilifeform: sounds appealing. what does a 4GB SDRAM stick cost there ? ☟︎

asciilifeform has nothing against goats per se

asciilifeform: for a 20-y.o. mircea_popescu, perhaps kabul would have also appeared 'best place' ?

asciilifeform: but you went there while being mircea_popescu, no ?

asciilifeform: have not been there in person, no.

asciilifeform: whereas mircea_popescu could, if he for some odd reason wished, live in antarctica. so it is not 'goat country' for him.

asciilifeform: my attempted point was precisely that, not being escobar, many more places are uninhabitable from my pov, because i cannot afford to terraform them.

asciilifeform: point was, if you are escobar, the middle of the sea can be a civilized country for you, because you can afford to re-create it.

asciilifeform: then none 'survive on their own' ?

asciilifeform: i do not, for instance, own personal reactor. rely on other folks', believe.

asciilifeform: what means 'on own' ?

asciilifeform: that i'd care to have anything to do with, at any rate.

asciilifeform: but they do not make for an alt-civilization

asciilifeform: it is pretty elementary that goatfuckistans will resist usg

asciilifeform: how so?

asciilifeform: ditto.

asciilifeform: so no.

asciilifeform: at least, not the part that hangs.

asciilifeform: not an indoor shitter country

asciilifeform: for so much as setting foot there.

asciilifeform: wake me up when a country with indoor shitters and an electric grid hangs u.s. 'law' enforcers in public.

asciilifeform: interesting moar for the fact of malaysia enabling arbitrary kidnapping by usg of whoever

asciilifeform: from same rag, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/us-charges-hacker-with-providing-isil-info-on-us-military-personnel

asciilifeform: (summary: ~75 usd per key.)

asciilifeform: in other nyooz, http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/breaking-512-bit-rsa-with-amazon-ec2-is-a-cinch-so-why-all-the-weak-keys

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: washing doesn't remove substance taken up by the plant while it was alive (nor insecticide secreted internally)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304415 << considerably more than 10k: an appraiser would have to show up and ascertain that the thing still works, before it is shipped; and it'd have to be crated (wood) and packed in air ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304411 << nope. handled same way as viagra spam. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304392 << 'gmo' == monsanto/roundup in precisely the same sense as 'pc' == winblowz. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304387 <<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303552 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: mid-90s

asciilifeform has a pretty decent archive somewhere

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is a candidate for single-handedly reviving the mega-newsgroup alt.tasteless ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304285 << i've considered many things, but the cost of any of them eclipse the worth of the box ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: (anglification of бред сивой кобылы)

asciilifeform: (ru in-joke.)

asciilifeform: 'bread of the sieve cable.'

asciilifeform: there we go.

asciilifeform: and bread - always of sawdust and rat shit, yes.

asciilifeform: the only reason i mention the cable tidbit is the sheer mindfuck of learning of the 'copper-clad aluminum' fraud

asciilifeform: copper - scarce, yes.

asciilifeform: thieves were not tearing out pipes from public buildings, or live high voltage mains, 20 years ago, in usa.

asciilifeform: naturally

asciilifeform: about half.

asciilifeform: the price of this humble construction material has nearly doubled since i last had to buy.

asciilifeform: (it is customarily sold in such bobbins, in usa)

asciilifeform: today i learned (tm) that most ethernet cable presently sold is a fraud - copper-plated aluminum. and that if you want actual copper - it'll be ~150 usd / 300 metre bobbin, or so.

asciilifeform thought that qntra was a nyooz site

asciilifeform was not aware of there having appeared new biological limits...

asciilifeform: (at the very least, to get a feel for the actual physical limits involved.)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304253 << perhaps BingoBoingo should look into the LN2 pc recipe. ☝︎

asciilifeform: forgot the title ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304235 << iirc there was a film... ☝︎

asciilifeform: (the machine is loud, as in vacuum cleaner, so idea was that it lives in its own room, console - in a quiet, distant one.)

asciilifeform: connects to the box itself with a thick triax cable ☟︎

asciilifeform: (it is not a mere display monitor, but actually its own - 16-bit! computer.)

asciilifeform: the really fragile part is the console.

asciilifeform: for a while i researched the protocol and tried to build a solid-state replacement, got nowhere, too much like actual work

asciilifeform: 2) cannot be reinstalled (i don't have the tapes, or the tape drive) even if you could obtain another.

asciilifeform: which 1) uses incompatible, unreadable on any modern system whatsoever, electrical interface

asciilifeform: buyer would have to also understand that the thing is full of electrolytic caps, circa 1986; and there is a mechanical hdd

asciilifeform: as in, if it breaks, it cannot be meaningfully repaired (unlike the vase!) and certainly not replaced

asciilifeform: but that it is a ming vase.

asciilifeform: problem is not simply that it is oversized.

asciilifeform: and did anyone so much as bother to consider it?

asciilifeform: is this quantity within an order of magnitude of what a boy (even a very small boy) weights

asciilifeform: what is a weather balloon? how much does it lift ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1304077 << this was an obscene - in the sense of serving as conclusive proof that everyone who parroted the story in the fishwrap, etc. is long overdue to be boiled for soap - because - think about it... ☝︎

asciilifeform: for any reason.

asciilifeform: they never, ever go down.

asciilifeform: as in, 24/7

asciilifeform has it on good authority that at least one u.s. army lab still runs a number of xl boxes !

asciilifeform does not have a xl

asciilifeform: likely.

asciilifeform: (it is considerably lighter, something quite like a '90s pc)

asciilifeform: less of an issue, interestingly, with the xl1200

asciilifeform: wonder how he intends to ship it

asciilifeform: i see 9.5k

asciilifeform: especially now that dks has run short of parts (as, by all indications, he has, or we wouldn't be having this conversation..)

asciilifeform: and i have yet to meet with anybody who really grasped what he'd be getting into, buying this machine.

asciilifeform: hm. if the keyboard thing is any indicator, i now have nfi what the thing is worth.

asciilifeform: in fact, i can pretty much guarantee that it will ~not~...

asciilifeform: difficult question. because i cannot offer ANY guarantee that it will survive shipping.

asciilifeform: but yes, artwork.

asciilifeform: (than, e.g., rembrandt)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303995 << more of a ming vase. ☝︎

asciilifeform: phf: machine: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=51

asciilifeform: http://webwit.nl/input/misc/symbolics1.jpg << nice photo of them side by side

asciilifeform: phf: i've been (futilely) selling it for ages.

asciilifeform: old: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Symbolics-keyboard.jpg new: http://www.asl.dsl.pipex.com/symbolics/photos/IO/keyboard_6074.jpg

asciilifeform: * the former is pictured

asciilifeform: (other - also for sale, but with whole orchestra)