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nubbins`: ten bucks is a day's work at an honest job
pete_dushenski: jamaicans should have a museum dedicated to this art, i say.
pete_dushenski: ok, so 40x payoffs are also a thing
nubbins`: you're omitting a variable
pete_dushenski: non-linear payoffs are a thing
nubbins`: it's a buck.
pete_dushenski: maybe they put in a bit more effort, because sure, i have standards, and maybe they get rewarded for it
nubbins`: dude, people the world over want to chill at the bar and smoke some weed instead of making a buck.
pete_dushenski: maybe they lick my asshole for a 100 though
pete_dushenski: so they want to chill at the bar and smoke some weed instead of making a buck ?
nubbins`: trying to lick your asshole for a buck?
nubbins`: what you see as entitlement is a desire to not waste time
nubbins`: why only two ends? it's a triangle
pete_dushenski: on one end is disinterest, a la paris or w/e, on the other end is entitlement
pete_dushenski: nubbins`, re: jamaica << there's a spectrum of behaviours within the 'poor service' realm
pete_dushenski: mats seems to be pushing his dual_ec point a bit. i'm... skeptical.
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mike_c: "RSA received $10 million in a deal that set the NSA formula as the preferred, or default, method for number generation in the BSafe software"
mats: (not necessarily a claim made here -- but nonetheless)
mats: by being excessively paranoid, you deprive yourself of a lot of useful engineering
mats: what i'm saying is that, as the evidence stands, i'm unable to take a firmer position on Dual_EC than the previously accepted consensus that the weakness being a backdoor is quite unlikely, and that Dual_EC should be shunned only because of the abundance of caution with regard to any issues that is endemic to the crypto field
nubbins`: "just check it. it only takes a second."
asciilifeform: i'll emphasize that it isn't a 'won't work in the cold' so much as 'entropy relying on sram effects degrades ungracefully'
asciilifeform: not that any rng will function especially well in the arctic, but that fella's insistence on baking a known-bad design was memorable.
nubbins`: dat #b-a fingerprint on device
Adlai: ahah '"Reddish green" redirects here. Reddish Green is also a place in Reddish, Stockport, in Greater Manchester in England.'
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asciilifeform: nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/6OsxazV.jpg << the bozo actually pasted that into #b-a if you recall
chetty: <nubbins`> this place has done more to fundamentally change my thought processes than six years at university// it is what a uni should be
ben_vulpes: 'tis a miserable march.
nubbins`: this'll be what, about a week?
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asciilifeform: mats: let's put another example. if you are found holding a smoking pistol, with $famouspolitican in a bloody heap on the floor where he was not long ago giving a speech - do you suppose the judge would believe that you drew the pistol and pulled the trigger by accident, while reaching for another object in your pocket ?
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nubbins`: let me find a relevant quote from a recent communique i received
nubbins`: (calling a black coffee a coffee without anything in it is sacrificing your beliefs?)
nubbins`: example from link: "When a black guy works at Starbucks and one hesitates to ask him for `black coffee" ☟︎
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tolerast | Aug 6, 2012 ... tolerast. a mix of `tolerant` and `pederast`, hyper tolerant person, who will sacrifice all of his beliefs just to avoid being thought of as `intollerant`.
asciilifeform: let him earn a living in some other way
asciilifeform: how many mistakes does a sapper make ?
asciilifeform: yes, some crypto designers make mistake, they are good people, sure, whatever. i will borrow from slavoj žižek and say then 'we put them to a good wall, shoot them with a good bullet from a good gun, and bury them in with a good shove in the good earth' - since sure, they are good people.
asciilifeform: there is literally nothing else (other than a certain measure of 'guilt by association')
nubbins`: asciilifeform put another way: not everyone has syphilis, but you'd be remiss not to wrap it up when sexing a stranger
thestringpuller: is there really a difference?
asciilifeform: just a strategic lack of support for anything which might poison the maggots.
asciilifeform: this is a fairly outlandish thing on the surface, and i will justify it with something like 'pascal's wager'
asciilifeform: mats: at the risk of repeating myself, i will phrase my position as a kind of maxim: 'it is necessary to behave as if hearbleed and dual_ec were crafted vulns, regardless of any apparent evidence to the contrary'
nubbins`: the usa invading a foreign country on 100% false pretenses, it can't be true
asciilifeform: but if you have the upbringing of a thinking (that is, polymathic) person - you can get somewhere.
asciilifeform: unfortunately, for most of the folks who do this, it ends in a belief in unidentified flying proctologists
nubbins`: i think the overwhelming amount of justification triggers a "this CAN'T be true" response in a lot of people
asciilifeform: mats: a serious discussion would involve what?
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 02:35:49; asciilifeform: if you create a 'heartbleed' - you are a вредитель. and whether you did it intentionally, given the impossibility of proof - does not matter.
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 02:36:41; asciilifeform: 'If you're a defendant, you don't get to claim your fingerprints miraculously appeared at a crime scene... If you're a bookkeeper, you don't get to say money miraculously disappeared from your company...'
mats: the 2006 analysis and subsequent cryptanalytic work stand on their own when it comes to making the case for suspicion of a backdoor, but lets stay within the realm of reason here
asciilifeform: he is a known stooge
mats: for the record, there is still absolutely zero solid evidence that Dual_EC_DRBG is backdoored. the Snowden leaks never mention it by name, never talk about backdooring a CSPRNG, and indeed never talk about backdooring anything. the extent of what they mention is that NSA wanted to 'influence standards'
asciilifeform: mats: next we know, you'll suggest that hearbleed was a traditional bug ?
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mats: living a life of secrecy is hard as it is
asciilifeform: there is a machine gun nest on the hill
asciilifeform: picture you're taking a hill
asciilifeform: in the sense that if you kidnapped a generic american undergrad, chained him in a cellar, and didn't let him out until he reads the snowden dumps and craps out a deck of 'plausible' canadian slides, the result is likely to be something like the above.
nubbins`: if there's one thing that will stabilise the region, it's a year of bombings
nubbins`: a small amount of "can afford to lose, why not try btc" in 2012 provides the opportunity for "can afford to lose, why not try ___" in 2015
nubbins`: but it'd be fun to add a few k's worth of yuan to the basket
asciilifeform: it isn't a problem that i have
nubbins`: mark of a wise man
nubbins`: shit, there was a Crichton book (sphere?) where the future coca-cola cans were all in chinese
asciilifeform: nubbins`: it is being felt. i distinctly recall watching some trashy american adventure film a year or two ago, involving time travel to the future, and the hero had a treasure chest under his floorboards with thick stacks of yuan
nubbins`: altho TBF "get the fuck off our land" doesn't work if you're a kid in downtown montreal
asciilifeform: 'Until recently the characteristic adventure stories of the English-speaking peoples have been stories in which the hero fights against odds. This is true all the way from Robin Hood to Pop-eye the Sailor. Perhaps the basic myth of the Western world is Jack the Giant-killer, but to be brought up to date this should be renamed Jack the Dwarf-killer, and there already exists a considerable literature which teaches, either overtl
asciilifeform: (last i checked, a few yrs ago, the donation button was still there!)
asciilifeform: or how a firm i once worked for, that shall remain nameless, invited the public to contribute spare change to one of its (congressionally-funded!) wunderwaffen projects that will 'help save our boys in iraq'
asciilifeform: reminds me of how when clinton was half-heartedly prosecuting microshit for antitrust violations, some 'think tank' (cato? i forget) had a 'microsoft defense fund' that the public was invited to contribute to !
nubbins`: and people are offering to buy her a new purse.
nubbins`: this woman has enough disposable income that NOT ONLY does she own a sealskin fucking purse, but she regularly travels internationally to SHOP
nubbins`: "My major concern at the time, because I travel to the states every now and then, is there going to be a red flag when they scan my passport? Is something going to show that I'm bringing in endangered whatever?" <<< yes, with 100% certainty.
nubbins`: it's much, much easier to cover up idiosyncrasies if there's a language and culture barrier in the way
nubbins`: there's about a 50/50 split between "young people who want to see the world, travel, pay off debt" and "weirdos escaping to start over"
nubbins`: phun phact, when i was five years old, i missed getting run over by a taxi in this same parking lot by about 6 inches
asciilifeform: 'They are looking for the people who are in this room right now: you will be the target. Not because you are a terrorist, not because you are suspected of any criminal wrongdoing, but because you have access to systems, you have access to infrastructure, you have access to the private records, people's private lives. These are the things that they want.'
nubbins` will have to play electrician again in a month's time when we upgrade to 240v flash unit
nubbins` had to play electrician for a day when all this equipment showed up
nubbins`: in a perfect world i'd buy one of those
nubbins`: nod. i have a link here.
nubbins`: now here's a funny thing: supposing that flash was made not-in-china. now it's $800. to add a dwell timer, a servo motor, and a foot pedal: extra $800.
asciilifeform: the mesh screen is not a buffer !
asciilifeform: it is how i reflow boards on a hob
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you know, the oven heater would work fine if you had a thermal buffer (think 'pizza stone') between it and the payload
nubbins`: the $300 one has... a domestic oven element. http://imgur.com/KJqDivg
nubbins`: the $800 one has a massive network of tiny coils to evenly heat the shirt
nubbins`: phun phact, you can get a flash dryer for curing plastisol inks for $800 (american-made) or $300 (chinese-made)
nubbins`: today i learned that the cost of a variable dc power supply is much less than i'd imagined
nubbins`: was your second moment putting a wilted celery stalk in a glass of water? :D
Adlai: one of my first ever mind=blown moments was seeing a solder removal wick
asciilifeform: (for those innocent of the thing - it was simply a box with battery, and tipped with a small carboniferous fork. stick the fork on solder ball, it melts...)