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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got that part. but the relation ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "pay me 1 btc, if youdon't say anything stupid for a whole month you get it back" << The way I understand gossipd... fair collateral seems closer to 15-20 BTC
BingoBoingo: The burden of impressing to get a connect to a gossipd node for the casual I imagine will be much higher than getting a !up nao.
WolfGoethe: i am a fool
WolfGoethe: i really think bitcoin could spike to a million bucks if Putin worked with China to answer the us economic attack. putin could just say he refuses to pay back their loans because of the sanctions and he could ask china to call in their us debt... the fed could just print cash to buy it up... but if china sold that debt to foreign governments... the fed could NOT print foreign currency.. so... overnight the dollar would collapse... not a shot
WolfGoethe: i do not want to get into the spiritual stuff, as that is way to deep for most folks
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, they did wtc, but what've they done for us since ?
mircea_popescu: i think the reptilians are just a ruse.
mircea_popescu: i always thought WolfGoethe = vexual
WolfGoethe: i have been pondering the possiblity of banker meddling in the bitcoin price
BingoBoingo: I mean even matonis seems kind of repentant about getting hooked into playing with Vessenes
BingoBoingo: I mean fucking Jared Kenna having a renaissance and Homero Garza stepping in fresh off of ripping some New England mountain towns for WiFi?
BingoBoingo: I dun imagine too many people of the kind in a position to support a leader. Still hurts when Ver blows his credibility on Gox's final days giving the scammer crowd room to pretend ther are Bitcoin 'Murica old hands.
mircea_popescu: maybe, i guess.
mircea_popescu: well, i dunno how many people were seriously taking ver for some sort of leader.
pete_dushenski: anways, i must sadly depart. good evening to all!
pete_dushenski: i only saw the play. and while it was a splendid rendition, it was also some time ago. but i gets it nao!
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i was refering to animal farm.
mircea_popescu: but i was thinking more of the moment when the color revolutionaries discxover their leader is really a sort of adonis.
pete_dushenski: i actually read that one!
ziishu: lazy :) I was just thinking it would be a good idea
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i see i have some reading to catch up on :)
BingoBoingo: Seriously though what is this forced prevention of address reuse bullshit. Spz I recieve at address, spend from and input there, happen to recieve there again... Anything that prevents spending the later balances recieved is an attack.
mircea_popescu: blockbitsCan't wait until we have 20MB blocks. I've developed a easy to use web front-end for people to upload files to the blockchain, using scriptsigs to store data. they can retrieve files by simply pasting any TX. I've put aside a few hundreds thousand dollars to pay mining pools to mine my non-standard tx's for free. I was hoping we can increase the block size to 200MB... please make it as big as possible, my dat
asciilifeform: i make regular trips to my university maths/physical sciences library. there is a substantial comp-sci/discretes section there. i pull out, seriously, a book, one in three, random page - a graph. for almost precisely this, the comparison between the warm and the soft.
mircea_popescu: i get really indignant when marketeers try to sell spuriousness,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess.
mircea_popescu: i really like these "academics" whose contribution to the world consists on "this model is supported by the fact that brain area activation"
pete_dushenski: hey, prejudice exists specifically because you're "reunited". << heh. i made a similar point in the soviet-harvard article
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood. do appeals to "ignore" the crying child rather than smack him over the head make crying children less common or more common ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu that is/are correction, where was that from? i couldn't place it
mircea_popescu: decimation ah i thought you meant specifically :x
decimation: mircea_popescu: receiving on one ip and rxing' on another is what I'm calling a 'port'
asciilifeform: decimation: if you use udp, like i proposed, you can even have the mindfuck of a 'bar-bell shaped' cell - a 'multihomed' machine receives on one ip and transmits on another
mircea_popescu: i can see it
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is not the best time to bring up the barbecuran.
mircea_popescu: but some youthful enthusiast,i got a few offline pms.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who it is
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes granted. i just mean... so they do,more power to em.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought it's implicit in the spec, in the "receiver decides if to relay" : you can configure a client to pass, to user or other clients, whatever you wish
ben_vulpes: i'm not suggesting any values be forced on anyone.
mircea_popescu: just as long as i can isolate the redditd from my machine, the people who want to be in there are more then welcome to their own choices.
asciilifeform: incidentally i don't recall if any of you lot suggested this, but: max-graph-degrees knob.
asciilifeform: (i forget if this was mircea_popescu's terminology in the original article, or not)
ben_vulpes: i imagine a steady-state future where people operate gossipd cells in much the same way that ircd's are operated on fleanode.
mircea_popescu: i suppose once webchat is enabled you could use that.
ben_vulpes: i imagine we'll all be running our own cells initially.
ben_vulpes: confession time, i know nothing about the arcana of irc modes
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i did, later, grasp mircea_popescu's deniable-transmission algo
ben_vulpes: derp, i meant gribble.
ben_vulpes: i don't actually care.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I've just stayed connected.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm expecting to end up in an inca-style, rather than soviet-style, camp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Naturally. I still wait for California's Seirra Nevada range to be inverted in the quest for rare minerals and to create H2O reservoir capacity to sustain the prisons and work farms.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] o look, 1k lines by 4 am. ben_vulpes will so much love this. << lord am i
asciilifeform: i'd guess more of a #2 than 1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kind of thing worked in 'tribal' structure, where most folks are reasonably 'close to the soil' and grow/kill the necessities of life personally. i suppose it also works in a concentration camp - though, iirc, these also typically have a kind of scrip and so aren't entirely free of currency.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Currency generally is in the hands of a selected few, this situation where every man woman and child holds some is an exception, and I suspect coming to an end.' << i recall being shown, as a boy, an 1890s ru coin that 'would feed a family for a month!111!!'
BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure pNohe sellers could find a way to make resistive touchscreens fashionable again.
Apocalyptic: "mircea_popescu:i must say, incidentally, i thoroughly enjoyed this discussion." // so did I, thanks for the priceless logs
jurov: i liked http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/8.2.0/api/twisted.protocols.amp.html but did not try it in practice
mircea_popescu: i guess ima have to bring an exchange online willy-nilly.
kakobrekla: i dont think so but dont have the details.
mike_c: interesting. they must be retaining UK incorporation, no? I would think it would be legal shitstorm otherwise.
mircea_popescu: and i have this distinct memory of a kid being pissed of at some chick, and going to carve "X is a whore" in the wall
mircea_popescu: i went to school in this huge, what you'd call super-preppy thing.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'm told that there is - somewhat lower-tech - traditional 'black on black' sc4mz0r1ng - 'numbers games' run in back alleys, etc. << Replaced by same game with different operator "Lottery"
asciilifeform: i'm told that there is - somewhat lower-tech - traditional 'black on black' sc4mz0r1ng - 'numbers games' run in back alleys, etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have no problem with dudes going "oh, blacks do all teh crime!!!" if that's what they believe, and start running off stats about it. big whoop. but it's funny how nobody happens to fucking noticing the OTHER stats.
thestringpuller: o i kno
thestringpuller: hahaha! i thought only black people used "pasty white person" phrasing
mircea_popescu: you keep going. you'll run out before i'm done enumerating pasty ass.
mircea_popescu: but i see whatcha mean. "not politically favoured, so not as well ironed out, so harder to use"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess that works out then, prolly a customer.
jurov: it annoys me to no end when i install self-signed cert and even if i try to distribute it between machines, some dam curl-like tool breaks
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now is the theory here that what, the haxxor is using on bitbet the same address that nejc was using on bitbet prior to the "hack" ? because why ? << I don't see any new bets after the 4th. COuld just be a derp who wanted to "win" to his Bitstamp deposit address?
jurov: i am not talking about browser, that's lost cause
jurov: i don't see how every time i'm accessing anything via https/smtps i'm going to think whether this is the right cert
jurov: i'm looking forward how are they going to solve it in libressl, if ever
jurov: i don't contest that
jurov: i believe self-signed certs are usable only for private use
mircea_popescu: sure, but i has a high regard of jurov.
mircea_popescu: obviously "one has no way of knowing" if a self signed cert is good. but if there's also a .asc on the server... i'd say it's a damned sight better than "Verizon certifies"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is what i thought too.
mircea_popescu: jurov: lots of derp tho << i kinda liked his piece tbh.
mircea_popescu: why am i so surprised.
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mircea_popescu: hot damn i hope they go through with it
mircea_popescu: "Piketty, some would say, is king. I say Piketty has shown, like Gibbon, what is possible. "
asciilifeform: perhaps i ought to attend spam school.
asciilifeform: if i knew how to earn bread without leaving home, i would
PeterL: I think my server is blocked from trilema?
PeterL: yeah, I know, I need to fix it
thestringpuller: i'm visualizing a classroom full of students pointing and laughing at Gavin while he struggles to find emotions and reactions
mircea_popescu: i do not see this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i kinda enjoy all this acting as if they have an option in the matter.
mircea_popescu: "i want it" "are you paying for it ?" "no, but i still want it" "because ?" "because i say so, damn it" "this isn't fiat, billy" "fuck you stop opressing me"
saifedean: word on the street is that the noob ddosing subsided, so i dropped by
jurov: i cannot anymore :(
mod6: Since like 2014.10.22 I've been stabbing derps.