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trinque: I have to admire someone who dies with
a finger pointed at someplace better.
mircea_popescu: we're getting
a new body, it's wot-innervated and bitcoin-perfused and im starting to guess the musculature etc.
mircea_popescu: this way being hard to pinpoint yet, but mostly
a wot based, loose and half anon, gpg empowered, bitcoin measured thing.
mircea_popescu: since somehow "tradition" was for
a while cognate with "don't need to read or write or even know history, tradition is what i say it is", there was
a major, multi-secular migration towards "liberalism"
mircea_popescu: if they buy into the entire honor thing, you get
a different failure mode.
mircea_popescu: so, on the score of "what is bitcoin disrupting" : getting scientists to donate to
a honor-based system rather than to
a socialism-based system will utterly restructure society.
mircea_popescu: but not subscribing to that particular silly manicheism allows one to see that really, the modern story of "libertard society driving out honor society (aka, amusingly, honorata societa)" has everything to do with
a happenstance :
mircea_popescu: for that matter - being
A DOCTOR is becoming more like this, and wasn't like this before at all - it was the very pinnacle of liberal profession.
mircea_popescu: now, you're right in saying that gender is not really an attribute of lower life forms, and if one becomes
a part of some sort of machine the gender's useless to them, which is how we got bees and ants in the first place.
nubbins`: you see some wild setups. like shirts being hung on
a clothesline and wheeled across
a 30 foot bank of hung oven elements
nubbins`: philippines in particular has
a massive amount of small-industry silkscreen and almost all of them are using dismantled ovens for curing
nubbins`: i lay down
a print, swing the arm 90deg to the left
nubbins`: this is
a "Flash dryer" for semi-drying inks on-press between colors of ink
mircea_popescu: i thought this was used on
a feeder, not 1 shirt at
a time
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo guy runs
a blogspot blog and has 50 followers. what difference does it make if its publicly visible or not.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently he popped
a RAID earlier this week and started his rebuild with the site still up
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i somehow doubt that guy has
a problem with traffic.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have
a policy to take out libtards and shoot them. so it's doomed.
assbot: Logged on 24-03-2015 13:08:20; nubbins`:
a lot of them don't make it to japan
mircea_popescu: it usually goes like "omfg, argentines are fucking retarded" "unlike who, romanians ?" "but look at X!" "myeah..." "you got
a point. fucking people."
trinque: I like how they put 90mb/sec with
a fucking asterisk on the thing's sticker
nubbins`: so you're saying
a synced .bitcoin/ copied to
a usb2 thumb drive
ascii_field: (normal application is more something liek
a camera)
nubbins`: much of today will be useful in the future, i'm putting
a pin in it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: basic idea is that we mustn't ship with
a kernel built by some random bozo
mircea_popescu: i guess that'll be useful for mod6 as
a reminder, tho i think he knows.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well, i can see
a 32 brew of bitcoind coming soonish, is this tacklable to go with it ?
mircea_popescu: "Japanese society can be notoriously conservative when it comes to gender roles. While there is
a lot of talk about the negative effects of imposing traditional roles on women, their restrictiveness and destructiveness for well-being are rarely mentioned in regard to men."
mircea_popescu: <trinque> as if I don't have enough going on :p << hey, in my spare time i'm designing
a fucking game. up to my neck in, of all things, mysql!
danielpbarron: the purple has
a usb2 port on the top next to sata port
mircea_popescu: so basically, i surmise, we'd have liked
a clean "os in eeprom, data on disk" arrangement, but it seems we're not actually capable to do this, and so as
a backstop you tried
a few oses to go on disk
danielpbarron: ascii was looking at netbsd for
a time; there was some bug where it couldn't see the nand, plus we discovered nasty things about netbsd in general
mircea_popescu: gotta go with an os brewed by someone with some experience so as to have at least
a fighting chance the whole thing works.
danielpbarron: so far i've gotton both debian and archlinux to work on
a pogo
mircea_popescu: but iirc,
a lot of valuable effort went into selecting and pepraring the os. what do you mean "it could be debian" ?
mircea_popescu: "which happened to run on
a magically garbage collected computor that doens't exist anymore"
mircea_popescu: they get it from
a dead drop or something, and well, whatever. go to conferences.
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> i also had one going that was using
a USB3 stick -- stopped it after
a week or so when it was clearly way too slow <<< how far'd you get?
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2015 15:07:01; mod6: anyway, it certainly is
a goal to support x32. it'll just be in the next release. this has been dragging out too long.
danielpbarron: i mean, is the pogo being 32 bit
a bigger problem? like is 32 bit becoming obsolete or something?
danielpbarron: i was lead to believe that getting it to work on 32 bit wasn't that big of
a deal, just low priority
danielpbarron: is it being 32 bit
a problem beyond getting bitcoind working?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you try it ? on
a like... 3rd pogo ?
trinque: build it on
a working linux, and you'll get
a kernel config
mircea_popescu: so basically, you put archlinux according to ascii_field's brew on the pogo, and then compiled
a static foundation bitcoind and loaded that up, and that's what we have now ?
danielpbarron: i think another unsolved problem is that we don't know how to compile
a linux kernel that works
danielpbarron: and then later i found
a guide for debian, but the bitcoind was still dynamic and wouldn't work on it
danielpbarron: there was already
a guide written for getting it to work on arch
nubbins`: if it's got
a real version of bitcoind that works enough to use, all the better
nubbins`: if we're talking about
a "pogo node" as
a kit that one can purchase, i think, it's fine to start with w/e distro, booting from SD, skull-and-crossbones patches, w/e
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im gonna unwind this thing cause i think it ran into
a problem.
danielpbarron: i move millions of dollars worth of stuff over the course of
a month or two
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> would have to be shipped with SD card already configured if the end user is to just plug in
a hard drive and forget about it <<< that is actually preferable for almost everyone who would buy this
nubbins`: ^ truth sauce, almost took this up as
a career
danielpbarron: would have to be shipped with SD card already configured if the end user is to just plug in
a hard drive and forget about it
danielpbarron: the shortcoming is it's using ArchLinux, doesn't boot from eeprom, requires
a great deal of user setup to get working
danielpbarron: i also had one going that was using
a USB3 stick -- stopped it after
a week or so when it was clearly way too slow
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: adding
a problem++ to the list at the cost of
a weekend is not on this list << astute observation, which is why my patch was specifically labeled as
a proof to nail down the locus of the problem, and not an item to be used on the battlefield.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the way system engineering is done, is either do not fix
a problem, or else fix the problem. adding
a problem++ to the list at the cost of
a weekend is not on this list.
ascii_field: mod6, mircea_popescu: depending on what it means to fix the leak (total replacement for block sync mechanism and
a mathematical proof for it? or something more like my patch ?) it could take anywhere from
a weekend to maxint days
ascii_field: gavin or whoever - isn't he
a full-time dev for turdation ?
mod6: For me, and I might be wrong here, but fixing that is
a huge chunk of work. I'd have to break it down to give
a decent estimate. But I'd guess 6 months or more, easy.
mircea_popescu: apparently ascii_field wants
a provably-correct stack of five layers of software before we ship out ten dollar items.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mod6 what do you two figure is
a realistic timeline for "bitcoind version that doesn't allocate memory without checks and so doesn't crash in THAT particular way" ?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> (
a passing draft will drop your channel capacity to nothing ?) << BUT DRM IN AUDIO WORKS!!!
nubbins`: i recall you saying
a bare bones install could be impossibly tiny
ascii_field: but iirc the device support of openbsd is
a subset of netbsd's
danielpbarron: how hard would it be to get OpenBSD on
a pogo? I've been idling in their channel but I'm not sure how productive it would be to just go "hey someone should start supporting this architecture for my pet project!"
nubbins`:
a passing draft will drop your outdoor coffee roaster by 20C
ascii_field: (
a passing draft will drop your channel capacity to nothing ?)
ascii_field: 'The two systems would then engage in
a handshake, involving
a sequence of “thermal pings” of +1C degrees each, to establish
a connection. ' << stopped reading here
ascii_field: transmitted
a few bytes with small variations in surface temp
ascii_field: chetty:
a certain semiconductor vendor had
a heat-based tattletale mechanism for detecting clones
danielpbarron: nubbins`> it comes with
a bobbaing 3-foot cat5! << most do; not all -- the power supply also varies in shape