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mircea_popescu: i think you may have
a genetic explanation of intelligence there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but there isn't
a box in the windoze to input that purpose.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the ancient discussion re "what if nsa held
a bunch of btc" ?
assbot: Moderator asks audience, "Who here thinks there will be
a hard fork missile crisis?" /petertoddbtc raises his hand.
mod6: is there
a preferred version of gentoo that I should test on?
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 18:04:58; ben_vulpes: and it'll remain that way until the block download thing is fixed to
a) track node quality and b) spot-check blocks provided by high quality peers
mod6: trinque: ah, ok. thanks. i think i'll try to set up
a local one first. my env is x86_64, but maybe vbox will let me run
a x86_32 environment
mod6: does anyone know where I might be able to get
a gentoo vm?
trinque: danielpbarron: nah I was talking about
a bot attacking my VPS
brendafdez: mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of
a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
danielpbarron: it sounds like
a very hard thing to do if you've never soldered before, but think of it as
a good excuse to learn
a new skill
trinque: if you give
a mouse an sshd he's going to want his pubkey added
trinque: ^ relevant perhaps, found via googling, heh! not via logs.b-
a search
trinque: the guy who buys this either can service, can buy
a new one, or fuck off.. there's no support staff
danielpbarron: i use top to watch for when bitcoind is done throwing
a tantrum
danielpbarron: top might not be needed; i'm just listing the things I use on
a regular basis on pogo
mircea_popescu: that's
a completely sufficient solution here, lettuce move on.
ascii_field wishes to ask mircea_popescu for
a favourite tarball of gpg, signed
mircea_popescu: i'm in no case saying that w/e, any one in b-
a *couldn't * correctly implement what alf is proposing./
trinque: mircea_popescu: 100% granted, that is
a fine reason not to do it
trinque: beat the thing one more time... publishing say
a magnet link from
a known address to an address or addresses representing
a bittorrent magnet link seems
a fine way to be able to trust shuffling bits out to nodes if that were wanted
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the (actually sound) argument is that they won't be 20 forever, we're eating up
a bubble of externalised cost.
nubbins`: obviously if the foundation is still producing new releases, it's going to be maintaining
a seed list for that release, rather than just continuing to let the dead nodes build up
nubbins`: then it's sort of
a self-solving problem
mircea_popescu: "this thing breaks iof there's
a bug found in gpg. or if we didn't implement signature checking correctly. or or or or"
trinque: if you can't trust
a txn that's very old, uh
nubbins`: i'm suggesting shipping them with
a hardcoded seed list *just like you are*
mircea_popescu: you're trying to jump
a fence by crawling on your back.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> right but you're adding
a narrower version. << so "check the usual places monthly", w/e
mircea_popescu: iirc you were asking for
a complex update gpg signature thing. not for
a simple "move x text file from /sda to /sdb"
trinque: and yeah, then somebody is
a point of failure
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if you're so absolutely convinced, how about seedlist is
a config file sits with blockchain on disk ?
nubbins`: the original seed list is
a "here"
mircea_popescu: ft meade gets to look like
a kiddy pool i took
a piss in
ascii_field: there is no mechanism for distinguishing
a correctly operating node from one that will be until day X
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i get this. but we're dealing with
a fundamental case of amplification attack.
mircea_popescu: this is
a consumer product, it works like
a consumer product. once it stops working it gets thrown out.
mircea_popescu: fuck the third world with
a spiked club. if it wasn't made by retards it wouldn't be third.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 20bux +
a man with
a suitcase to bring it to you, if you're in ar
mircea_popescu: wtf people. srsly. if anyone WANTS TO run
a pogo they can
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah thought in the shower today that giving an easy way to dump other code into the thing later was
a terrible idea
mircea_popescu: there can not be
a power ranger node that can run on
a pogo.
ascii_field: this still doesn't give us
a license to be retarded when making these
nubbins`: i was about to flash the nand when i recalled
a nebulous something about this
nubbins`: brainfarted and thought you mentioned smth about
a uboot being in there
ascii_field: nubbins`: it's just
a demo kernel for pogo
nubbins`: ascii_field oh wait this is just
a blob, isn't it?
mircea_popescu: it does not work. might as well grab the moon with
a tweezer
trinque: not "winning" in the sense of
a fork?
trinque: is it just
a matter of preserving the existing chain?
mircea_popescu: this is not
a discussion of anything but the hard laws.
mircea_popescu: usgavin's been on
a kick about this imaginary hardware that will run his 200 trillion jiggabit nodes.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what about it << it being in
a usg-blessed region
trinque: mircea_popescu: someone should have
a business doing aftermarket mods on these
ascii_field: i thought mircea_popescu was asking why
a firm would purchase rather than lease the machines
mircea_popescu: 'We as
a company own all of the machines. There is no outstanding balance and we've already had the tech come out to unlock them."
mircea_popescu: we're not talking 100 bucks for
a piece of plastic here.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i don't get it. who would "buy" such
a thing ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google christina applegate buys
a car with kellog's cornflakes cutoutsd.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field im talking money cut out of
a fucking notebook.
ascii_field: and it takes some actual work to bleach
a 1usd note to get anything like plausible paper for benjie
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they did try, and result could only fool
a muppet
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "Copy machine money" : this is
a sad necessity. if it weren't present, muppets WOULD "try it", and discover "it works", and srsly financial collapse. for real.
ascii_field: 'We as
a company own all of the machines. There is no outstanding balance and we've already had the tech come out to unlock them. Due to some business changes, we want to move the machines around the shop floor to reconfigure our machining cell however as we've done more research, we've found that there is
a small board in the electrical panel of the machine that houses
a gyroscope so that if the machine is moved/tilted,
trinque: "I've always felt as if my brain was always wired for
a short circuit or at least in
a way that wasn't too appealing for anyone else but me.
punkman: " Is this your only job? No. I have
a full time job changing the world."
ascii_field has
a possibly different imagination of 'rich' than mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: if you b-
a her name it's all in there because she's one of those (unfamous, anon irrelevant people that appear suddenly and on one topic. as opposed to say lenin.)
mircea_popescu: leah goodman poor, which is to say he gets
a few 100s of discretionary tspending
a week and gets to - at the lord's pleasure - inhabit
a decent mancave. for now.
ascii_field would likely demand pay to answer such
a question
mircea_popescu: (for poor people reading : "donating to
a charity" = tax deduction = you didn't actually spend anything. because say my company has made 1mn revenue this year, and my tax accountant is bs so i have to pay like 120k in tax. if i donate 100k to
a charity and pay 30k ish im all done. so therefore - whether i lose this bet or not decides whether i write
a check to x or to y, not whether i write the check at all.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 17:13:12; punkman:
http://blog.samaltman.com/bubble-talk "This bet is open to the first VC who would like to take it . The loser donates $100,000 to
a charity of the winner’s choice." meh
ascii_field: danielpbarron: at first i though that the rear button was
a cpu reset line
nubbins`: still haven't found
a reasonable purple-logo unit source for canada