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artifexd: Oh. I thought you were discussing a bet about mpif.
Elian11: yawwwns, Sun has risen over the Aegean again. i continue my trip
dub: I thought s/refunded/donated/
cazalla: i took no for a few bit cents, c'mon no whammy!
mircea_popescu: i had honestly thought they were making dumb polack jokes.
Elian11: ^ yes thats what i write
Elian11: It's my fav. song. And, i think that more people understanding is a good thing
asciilifeform: obligatory naggum: 'I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?' ( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3065132899827911@naggum.no.html )
Elian11: I mean up, as in: level up their skills.
ben_vulpes: Elian11: i envision a future where journeymen write their own bitcoin implementations
artifexd: <ben_vulpes> so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types? << The proper term is "overloaded"
asciilifeform: or wait, i think that one's out already
asciilifeform: then i can finally write 'mein kampf.'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there are other, i think, similar proggies
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as (i think) i told jurov & co., it is my intention to eventually write this book. if live long enough.
ben_vulpes: okay i guess i'm not getting anything done on the cpp for a few days while i get up to speed on ebrowse
mircea_popescu: i wonder how much stuff like "let's make a readable, minimal implementation of bitcoin" would increase adoption.
ben_vulpes: ah okay i get it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you probably already own b. stroustrup, but for n00bs i like to give s. lippman's 'primer'
ben_vulpes: my problem with the bitcoin codebase is not cpp (that's just another language), but the insane class hierarchies i have to hold in my head
ben_vulpes: no, i understand the this pointer. what i'm failing to understand is how the reference to the object from which SignSignature is called can in any way be coerced to a CKeyStore
ben_vulpes: i'm still not understanding how the *this argument (which looks like a bool?!) is turning into a CKeyStore
mircea_popescu: i apparently understsnd even less of coding than i had thought.
asciilifeform: i may have linked to the current turd instead of 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types?
ben_vulpes: sure, i guess
ben_vulpes: okay cool well i guess that makes sense
mod6: i can't wait
ben_vulpes: quickly i must kickstart this
ben_vulpes: yeah i could have emojiterm
mod6: i dunno, i like it. it's built around lexigraphical parsing and list processing. i've gotten comfortable in there over the years.
ben_vulpes: explains why so many sages under whom i've labored have been all about the perl
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess so
mod6: i typically have a bit of a more painful time writing shell scripts
mod6: was like "i /knew/ i should have just wrote it in perl".
mod6: i thought it had to have something to do with the curl commands. but couldn't sort it out.
mircea_popescu: i kinda made it up on the idea that dumbass windows errors are 1000xx sort of thing
mod6: it came back with windows TCP Socket Errors. I was like ... WTF?! RAGE!
mod6: so, when I googled: Error 10042
cazalla: personally i cut the melanomas off with a bowie knife
dub: its 26c here, at 18:00. The sea is 22-24c so I try to stay in that as mush as possible around this time of year
asciilifeform: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=constanta+romania+to+odessa+ukraine
mircea_popescu: i thought you were a dc monkey.
dub: I spend a lot of time in the sun
mircea_popescu: i never had skin peel.
dub: I got 3rd degree burns when i was 10 or so from a full day lying on beach and surfboard, back and legs turned to one big blister
mircea_popescu: but i never had a sunburn.
asciilifeform: i bought a uv dosimeter as learning such a thing existed. because burns after 40 min. or so.
mircea_popescu: i imagine it's some sort of northern hemisphere polution or other.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, same! i assumed it was on account of moving to north a.
mircea_popescu: got here, discovered that the exact thing i knew as a boy still exists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's actually great, the sun of my childhood. back when i was a kid i loved the sun, but then something sort-of changed at some point, past decade or so i couldn't even look at the fucking sky in the daytime. i kinda untinkingly just figured it's... gone.
mircea_popescu: lol. for all the redditard "consensus" and "Community" i can never find someone to write me a fucking short worth ten bucks on their idiotic ideas.
mircea_popescu: i shoud be more careful
mod6: i've been like killing kittens for like 30 minutes
mircea_popescu: mod6:i hate shell scripts. << i wasn't serious man. just joking around his error.
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for mehdub: whiskykakobrekla: test )
TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for meh
TheNewDeal: thought I read online that the body synthesizes the stuff from Tryptophan tho?
TheNewDeal: stuff I bought from drug store was 5mg chewies
mthreat: they sell 3mg pills, that is too much, I think
joecool: i usually use 1.5mg for that use case... any more and groggy mornings
mthreat: I would recommend taking 1/2 mg to start, up to 1mg max.
joecool: i only use it in low dose for jet lag, it's not practical for daily use (and for me the store dosages are way too high)
mthreat: after that, not so much, and it has helped me go to sleep, but I felt a bit groggy in the morning so I stopped taking it.
mthreat: yes. first time it gave me the most intense nightmare I've ever had.
mod6: i hate shell scripts.
mod6: PeterL: builds the patched R.I. and compiles it
mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A182nMiK
cazalla: i will be until a scream comes over the baby monitor that someone is awake and demands lunch
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I was wondering because I really love the articles there and sometimes I didn't find the "original source".
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes point is, i gotta be able to make list x pay list y in one tx.
asciilifeform: 'Her: If violence conquers all, even argument, why are you training me in logic instead of shooting? Me: You gotta be willing and able to stand for what you believe in. If you're not, you might as well be a rabbit. And if you recall I have on numerous occasions indicated that you must meet minimal standards of violence.' << interesting! :
ben_vulpes: (i encourage argument on the topic! conflict being productive and all.)
ben_vulpes: i imagine you've found a way to get it to make them, what with all the "murder gavincoin" talk i've heard.
ben_vulpes: i have no problem with a bitcoin that makes txns of arbitrary size.
mircea_popescu: i must be able to create my own change addresses.
ben_vulpes: i'm not really seeing a future for sendmany
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes since i have your ear, allow me to privilege some actual business complaints.
ben_vulpes: with all the hoojum around wallets and the db, i can't help but suspect that all the state the reference client should really maintain in terms of db is a) block indices and b) unspent txout pool
thestringpuller: i've never reached out but cazalla has on occassion to various entities he's covering :P
ben_vulpes: in the process of running down how vins get populated, just thought i'd share some lulz
ben_vulpes: naw i don't even care yo
felipelalli: I know you guys have an original analysis, but I was wondering if you make digital forensics or go to street interview the people.
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L778 << i mean lolwut?
thestringpuller: i'm moving into on the street reporting, but we also have done digital forensics
felipelalli: ahahahah :) I mean: you guys go to street like reporters? Like "original research"? Or compilation from other sources? Sorry for ask, not offence.
mircea_popescu: not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement on their client, "MP was right, I was wrong but too stupid to realise, sorry all!"
thestringpuller: i kinda want him to release statement "I'm going ahead with hard fork"
cazalla: felipelalli, i guess it depends how much we've had to drink the night before
ben_vulpes: today i learned...
cazalla: i've heard of meat glue though
ben_vulpes: i don't think i want lathed babes
cazalla: google leads me to believe they machine the shitty ones into cocktail carrots.. this i never knew, i like the ones i grow which end up looking like they have 2 legs and a cock
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos" << somehow i suspect you just defined that thing.
mircea_popescu: i've not actually bothered to read teh actual filings
mircea_popescu: i dunno a prosecutor exists that woulnd't rather have any other task.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/25/article-2668912-1F12C87000000578-212_306x423.jpg << i'm sending you one of these, thestringpuller
thestringpuller: now i'm on a watch list