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mircea_popescu: <Chillum> no amount of debiasing will create entropy from a patterned source << howdja figure that one ?
pete_dushenski: this article has to be a troll.
pete_dushenski: if a chocolate egg is unsettling the balance, by golly bitcoin barely needs to sneeze in the uk's general direction
pete_dushenski: Are we really going to swallow this bad egg, America? For that is what Cadbury has wrought. A bad egg. And today will for ever be known as a bad day.
pete_dushenski: Monday 12 January 2015 will go down in confectionery history as a bad day. A hurtful day.
Chillum: I have a shirt that says "I read your e-mails"
pete_dushenski: back should read: WITH A SPIKEY CACTUS
pete_dushenski: hey, we also know a guy who prints t-shirts, don't we...
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: AND WE KNEW A GUY WHO PRINTED T-SHIRTS
pete_dushenski: Chillum: solid first day in b-a!
pete_dushenski: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2015#1074455 << a h/t recipient is you!
asciilifeform: ^ if it had cameratron (see earlier thread) we'd have more to laugh at than a torn box.
asciilifeform: collect for a while.
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Chillum: Say I start creating variants on a 6hz tone and create keys with that tool. I may just make the same key as someone else who used it near a lamp
asciilifeform: Chillum: if you can predict wave from turbulent flow (e.g., water faucet) don't settle for small change. aeronautics and naval folks would like a word with you.
Chillum: noise itself is a repeating wave
jurov: or, as i have a window to busy street, i used that
Chillum: like a burp?
Chillum: no amount of debiasing will create entropy from a patterned source
Chillum: sound has entropy but it also has a lot of pattern
asciilifeform: 'It had an airport, railway and dungeons. Most of Pingfang was burnt by the Japanese to destroy evidence but the incinerator where the remains of victims were burnt remains and is still in use as part of a factory.' -- pediwikil0l
asciilifeform: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Window_Film/Solutions/Markets-Products/Residential/Safety-Security_Window_Films << the 'break-in attempt' film is a mega-l0l
decimation: they are also quite useless against a well-bezzled actor
decimation: all these kinds of security gizmos are quite useless if there's not ability to summon a human to inspect what is going on
asciilifeform: and wouldn't it be in a sense counterproductive? as in, burglars will often themselves glue film to windows before breaking them, to silence the sound
decimation: possibly, but it would take quite a bit of doing
decimation: if it's a 'random burglar' it might be enough to convince him to go elsewhere
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not policarbonate replacement for glass in window. it's a very highly adhesive foil, which you stick on the window
asciilifeform: why even have a window if covering in opaque armour
mircea_popescu: it'll hold a brick too.
asciilifeform: if a house, with glass windows, etc. and not a vault - probably wasted money.
Chillum: with 128 bits to a bitcoin key you do have some keyspace to play with
Chillum: If I could hook up a little device to the usb or serial that gave me numbers I would be more confident in then I would do that
asciilifeform: Chillum: this has been known to the public for months, to me for years, and to #b-a for at least a year and a half.
Chillum: it is possible to infect a hard drive with malware. Not the data, the firmware
Chillum: I doubt there is a modern computer out there that does not have some black box software or firmware
Chillum: I agree it is integrated into a black box
asciilifeform: Chillum: it is not know for a fact to be anything other than prng
mircea_popescu: first time ppl that wander in here and a) aren't going to spaceghost the bitcoin ; b) aren't retarded.
mircea_popescu: not a bad design.
Chillum: so I reimaged the sd with a base raspbian and wrote some python code to get addresses from vanitygen and print them
Chillum: It was a kit meant to print twitter feeds
Chillum: and a thermal receipt printer
Chillum: a raspberry pi
asciilifeform: classical gambit - fuck a goat, folks will forget that you also fuck babies and guinea pigs
danielpbarron: these days there isn't that much to verify that a shipment hasn't been tampered with; a shipping container is "sealed" with a metal peg coated in plastic and stamped with some numbers
assbot: Proof That Mycelium Knows How To Make A Better RNG For Its Entropy Dongle. And Isn't. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1y61MkH )
asciilifeform: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt << pete's summary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : i would almost dare to suggest that the idiot seal was a deliberate smoke grenade to distract from the idiocy of the 'mycelium' produce itself
Adlai: this is a valid approach
Adlai: danielpbarron: ie, the entire container is a seal?
asciilifeform: mass produced seals, sold commercially, are approximately as useful as the lock on a typical home door
Chillum: This is a really good talk page the effectiveness(or lack there of) of tamper evident devices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIQml3MBJoE
asciilifeform: note also the 'pouch' quite large enough for a passenger car
Adlai: corners and edges are a bitch
danielpbarron: Rejoining the breached container lid, knot, or latch and replacing the broken seal with a new, identical seal would have been, short of stealing the original unique seal carving, impossible to hide from the inspector.
Adlai: "Miss Bianca, after all, is a poet too, and in any case she is due to travel any day now by diplomatic pouch to Norway."
decimation: the business end of a nuke is not large at all
asciilifeform: Chillum, Adlai : 'pouch' is a misnomer
asciilifeform: are known for a fact to have traveled in diplopouch
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asciilifeform: in the linked example, no one had to even build a second box - original opened and closed undamaged.
Chillum: permeable paper, the wax absorbs into the paper which is a solid seamless envelope
Chillum: in nuclear regulatory systems they seal with a metal button and then scratch it up with a pin and photograph the scratches
Chillum: multiple colors of wax melted into a seal with photo delivered separately is still used by embassies in hostile mail systems
nubbins`: "pretty sad that a fuckin sticker determines whether our device is a paperweight or not"
nubbins`: hardware and software security, that there was such a simple oversight.
nubbins`: <rassah> I would have secured them better by adding a sticker on the other side too (I got them the way you got them before shipping), but I had very few extra stickers. Should have been put on the front. I dont know what happened here. Maybe they were putting them on the sides without realizing how flexible the box is, and only realized when they almost ran out? Pretty sad that after such a huge amount of work adding and improving internal
asciilifeform: Chillum: we are thinking of what intelligent smugglers might do a decade from today
Chillum: If you want to make sure the government has not tampered with a package, put some weed in there. If the weed is still there they probably did not look lol
asciilifeform: Chillum: for a hypothetical smuggler, balloon only needs to land within range of cell tower and connect for a few seconds, send enciphered coords
Chillum: ie a state actor
Chillum: tamper evident sticker will only stop a casual attacker, not one with resources
asciilifeform: Chillum: if you're not familiar with the fusen bakudan - it was a very elegant & clever design which exploited facts about high-atmosphere air currents
mircea_popescu: actually, my bird wouldn't be a baloon. it'd be a sheet of plastic, basically. this can have zero size if it wants to
Adlai: #b-a poll: who has found machine learning worth learning, as a human who learns machines their work
Chillum: DLINK likes to keep code a long time
Chillum: insecurity in routers is a real problem. Most homes have a router that can be hacked by anyone who connects over wifi. From there they can packet sniff
Chillum: I found references to a uart in the firmware
decimation: Chillum: yes the popular tool is the rtl 2832 chip on a usb connected to software that decodes mode-s transponder emissions
Chillum: it is not that hard to setup a software defined radio to track the transponders of aircraft nearby
decimation: there's folks who make a hobby of locating radiosondes
Chillum: there are plenty of weather balloons out there. They don't follow flight plans. A large balloon would not be too out of place
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform really more like a manta that's an acre and goes in air.
Chillum: you could put a neural control system on a real bird
Chillum: humming bird size, flapping wings, a blur
mircea_popescu: the newer polymers hold a lot of promise for strength etc
Chillum: did anyone see the Ted talk where they had a hummerbird model flying?
mircea_popescu: a plastic bag never reaches the bottom, it is ground into mush before.
mircea_popescu: yes but imagine a superthin bird.
Chillum: an ion lifter would stick out like a sore thumb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not straight up like that. a flexible foil that exploits atmospheric randomness
mircea_popescu: that'd be a kickass robot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i designed, on paper, such a thing. ionic lift.
mircea_popescu: that actually flies, sorta like a manta
mircea_popescu: actually what i'd really like to see would be a truely flying microfibre machine.
asciilifeform: there is one quite like it hanging in a museum here.
asciilifeform: try hiding that as a 'bird.'
asciilifeform: you get a 'goodyear blimp'