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ascii_field: but the use of boxes not under therealbitcoin's control, for any purpose, is not a thing to live with indefinitely
BingoBoingo: <mod6> good deal. im excited about a hardened version of bitcoin to run on obsd! << Just remember on obsd libressl is an option. Libressl v 2.0 syncs plays much nicer with the built in OpenBSD memory protections than OpenSSL does, those changes were the reason they forked.
ascii_field: imho this is a bad idea
Chillum: If one could have cheap hardware with a built in hardware assist qr reader then you could use that for a cold wallet system. You would likely need more than one qr code per tx though
mod6: good deal. im excited about a hardened version of bitcoin to run on obsd!
trinque: Chillum: sure, but there's a barrier to getting someone to deal with another gadget
mod6: BingoBoingo: cool. ive got openssl/bdb/boost built now on obsd 5.6, then just gotta apply sublte obsd changes to v0.5.3.1 and then try the static build. if all works & pulls blocks, I'll make patches: one for the v0.5.3.1 source and one for `auto.sh' (which needs a few tweaks). maybe you can just point at that instead. anyway, no worries.
Chillum: it is only a laser based barcode scanner though, so no qr codes
Chillum: Simpler is more secure, I don't trust my phone. Not sure what it is running but if you could get a fresh linux install it would be nice
trinque: and I think having a standing order of whatever per month trumps all
trinque: Chillum: kinda neat, though why not just scan with a phone app
assbot: Amazon Dash Is a Magic Wand That Makes Sure You Never Run Out of Stuff ... ( http://bit.ly/19yLmZo )
Chillum: the earlier version looks more useful: http://gizmodo.com/amazon-dash-is-a-magic-wand-that-makes-sure-you-never-r-1558691755 barcode scanner and microphone with wifi button. Would rather hack that
mod6: BingoBoingo: thank's for the OpenBSD reminder about arc4random, a note about your blog though... you do say 7.x or 8 or w/e.. in v0.5.3/v0.5.3.1 the function that contains that part to change from rand() to arc4random() is called: CWallet::SelectCoinsMinConf
Chillum: lol, I want to reprogram them, put a sticker over the advert
trinque: it's so you have a fucking cotonelle logo next to you every time you shit
ascii_field: Chillum: even funnier: eventually printer will want a credit card inserted when you print. but - you get toner in the mail when runs out
trinque: gotta turn your house into a gerbil cage
Chillum: buy a printer, get a button for ink
BingoBoingo: Chillum> make it into a wifi doorbell << What's wrong with a heavy, resonant wooden door?
Chillum: make it into a wifi doorbell
ascii_field: ted to Russia to stand trial. This is largely a symbolic gesture, but non-symbolic non-gestures of a preventive nature are sure to follow. You see, my fellow space travelers, murder happens to be illegal. In most jurisdictions, inciting others to murder also happens to be illegal. Americans have granted themselves the license to kill without checking to see whether perhaps they might be exceeding their authority. We
ascii_field: 'Recently a retired US general went on television to declare that what's needed to turn around the situation in the Ukraine is to simply “start killing Russians.” The Russians listened to that, marveled at his idiocy, and then went ahead and opened a criminal case against him. Now this general will be unable to travel to an ever-increasing number of countries around the world for fear of getting arrested and depor
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/a/ecQ5T
ascii_field: nubbins`: hm. iirc there is a verbose debug option for the make. try see what it does
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell freeborn If you have the slightest inclination to use the wallet at all and you aren't using 5.7 or -current you will want to change the random function in wallet.cpp explicitly to arc4random, which has not been rc4 based in a long time. It is their good random.
nubbins`: a!
lobbes: jurov: oh wow. noob me was unaware of the existance of ARM processors. Yes, looking around the google this seems like it might be a good route to follow. Thanks for the tip!
ben_vulpes: a gentleman by the name of mark weislogel gave me the inspiration for the idea one year in thermofluids
lobbes: and I'm too cheap to shell out the dough for a dedi
lobbes: thanks jurov. Yeah, I feel like I'm leaning the gentoo direction. Still gotta find a good hosting provider for simpleshell though
nubbins`: pastebin a good chunk before and after your first error
trinque: nubbins`: I made it as far as boost having a seizure over... something
nubbins`: can take a peek at some flavor of bsd after that
mod6: There's a lot of stuff on our "to-do" list, but it'd be nice to knock out some OpenBSD support before we get into doing other heavy lifting.
mod6: but all of that is easy, i just need to dig in to figure out how to get the proper configure args for openbsd -- iirc last time I tried, I tried to build a statically linked binary and then openssl compile failed. and I just got busy with the release so I havent gotten back to it yet.
mod6: so it looks like i've got 1 small tweak to the makefile, and for some reason it doesnt seem to like "DB_LOG_AUTO_REMOVE" in db.cpp and there are a few include statements needed.
nubbins`: as a wild guess, i'd say at least some of the changes in my osx instructions may apply -- most of them were just renaming syscalls and compiler flags
mod6: naw. its just a few additional include statements in a few of the source files iirc
mod6: I have that part figured out, I even had mine running. but it was only a /dynamically/ linked build. The part I need to still sort out is a staically linked build.
freeborn: once ready, I am interested in working on a openbsd live image that uses the reference bitcoind
mod6: It requires a subtle patch to the code.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you print 10k capilaries of which over 9000 have a hole somewhere... well i guess it'd make a great burning man prop << problem invites itself to be solved with clever metallurgy. as in, alloy which functions if in a normal turbine but fuses the capillary shut if said capillary is on fire and not cooled by a nearby functioning microturbine.
mod6: <+thestringpuller> freeborn: I'm pretty sure mod6 has gotten it working on OpenBSD. << Hi freeborn, yup, OpenBSD is on def. at the top of our list of platforms to support. I made good progress on this in February, but got a little side-tracked in March with the release. Stay tuned to the mailing list (btc-dev), any advancements in this realm will be updated there.
mats: lotta those errors being printed to chan on a weekly basis
freeborn: hi all, been following the bitcoin foundations work for a little while.. looks really cool! I have been giving it a shot trying to install on my openbsd machine, I noticed in the release notes that BingoBoingo has provided soem insights for building on obsd, does anyone know if this is possible yet?
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: Also as you move horizontally away from the object you are lifting, your leverage decreases << only if payload is a point.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: so i added BR2_GCC_CROSS_CXX=y and BR2_INSTALL_LIBSTDCPP=y flags to pogoplug_defconfig but g++ doesn't get spit out. what gives! << did you 'make clean all' ? 'buildroot' doesn't work like a proper 'make' project at all. you have to 'clean' it almost every time you change anything.
nubbins`: the deliciousness of ketchup flavor with the enhanced snap of a corn chip
nubbins`: altho intelligent design and "super intelligent computer in hyperspace" is sort of a bijective function
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder how thinking people manage to put up with this indignity. it's really worse than any government bullshit. to not have a dictionary ?! barbarous.
mircea_popescu: except this is just your perception of a fundamental law.
mircea_popescu: a lot of human history can be readily understood by sieving it through the universe-cosmos duality
funkenstein_: that's a better definition than most
funkenstein_: the concept of a universe seeks a proper definition
mircea_popescu: through a process roughly similar to pair generation (which is how we even know black stars exist : spontaneously generated pairs which sum to zero but which are separated by the event horizon result in direct radiation of the black body), it is reasonable to expect even a thermically dead universe to display localised disturbances, permanently.
mircea_popescu: whenever the great ovary tears off the packaging off a pre-prepared condom-equivalent.
mircea_popescu: " It took mankind a million years to fill one small world and then only fifteen thousand years to fill the rest of the Galaxy."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1080559 << juicy, but i somehow doubt 3d printing's yet there. if you print 10k capilaries of which over 9000 have a hole somewhere... well i guess it'd make a great burning man prop. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1080512 << everytrhing even moderately costly is in severe permanent shortage in the soviet america. the only thing they have in ample supply is "technologies", a la facebook. exactly mirroring the situation of the previous soviets, eating pravda on bread, except "real" pravda on imaginary bread. ☝︎
nubbins`: they're quite expensive and so there's not a ton of extra stock laying around
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [03:30] substation transformers in usa are in severe shortage << really? source? this shit doesn't fit in a container and ship from china these days?
nubbins`: you might also wish to put a small blurb under 0.5.3 just noting that to the best of your knowledge, it's vintage legit
nubbins`: mod6, just a suggestion: put the 0.5.3.1 release note under the link rather than over it. it looks like it's attached to the original 0.5.3
decimation: “I had a cherry tree that died about 10 years ago. I cut out a part, and had a ceremony for it,” Campbell said. “I burnt it as part of an offering. I was thinking of getting others in the community to do it, and have a healing ceremony.”
asciilifeform: the building would have to take place on another, spare planet where there wasn't a magnetopocalypse.
decimation: except wash dc has a million cixis
assbot: 4 results for 'cixi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cixi
decimation: ^ a pretty good sample of the way people think in maryland
decimation: noone gave a fuck, and land was cheap
decimation: the aerial cables are a result of 1950's era build-out
asciilifeform: decimation: right now it's in a kind of limbo
asciilifeform: last i heard (years ago) there was a court order compelling them to stop chopping
asciilifeform: i have a thick hanging severed limb of it here.
decimation: I wonder if telephone modems are still a thing
asciilifeform: my fiber goes through several trees. it is only a matter of time until 'day x.'
decimation: wash dc power 'customers' can be reliably expected to 1.) whine about a single tree branch trimmed by the power company and 2.) whine when the tree knocks out the power
decimation: asciilifeform: actually as long as the swarm was operating within a short range of ground, there's no reason why it might not connect to a power 'tether'
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is not akin the myth that 1900s ocean liners had solved a problem since idem.
asciilifeform: solving, potentially, a problem unsolved since daedalus's wings
decimation: there are actually many uses for a cheap 'skyhook'
asciilifeform can't afford even the back half of a cessna
mircea_popescu: if that's what it is, you're buying a cessna.
asciilifeform: it was a wunderwaffen.
mircea_popescu: ie : this toy will stay a toy.
mircea_popescu: it's still a finite supply.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason the first coin in the world was a bar of copper.
mircea_popescu: making a 2 cc combustion engine is more expensive than 1/50 of making a 1000 cc one.
mircea_popescu: look, a combustion engine works from about half liter to about five. that's what it does.
mircea_popescu: if you look at the relative size of a plane when it moves from two to four it's abundantly clear what the sweetspot is like
mircea_popescu: decimation yes but there's a reason they have bipropellers and quad propellers, rather than thousandprops
mircea_popescu: so basically this can be used for a bus ride ?
asciilifeform: it is a more efficient -product of industry-
asciilifeform: each of which is a toy
decimation: two 180 lb men + full feul for a cessna 152
asciilifeform: 'cessna' lifts a good bit of own weight
mircea_popescu: you're short a degree of magnitude.
asciilifeform: 100 - a man ☟︎
asciilifeform: 50 of'em will lift a boy
asciilifeform: 50,000 birthday balloons are cheaper than airplane. but not very much use to fly. on the other hand, if a freyacopter tile lifts, e.g., 500g...