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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re glibc -- iirc subj of inquiry was re the 'nss' thing, which i found to be the sublib that drags in dynamicism, dns, etc
mircea_popescu: the sun's not a controlled burn, but natural phenomena ; and the fermentation of the dregs of humanity, the dumbest women, the cuckest dorks, the socialists and morons and agglomerated stupidity -- exactly same.
mircea_popescu: the one important property of the failure of mankind is its complete and utter incapacity for any controlling of anythin whatsoever, internal or external.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make the point for the 9`000th time in the general, because unlike the previous 8`999th times prior, each exactly proven correct and each exactly disavowed the very next morning, THERE IS NOTHING CONTROLLED ABOUT INCA WORLD.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-01-16 14:33:06 asciilifeform: one of the reasons i still, despite everything, have > 0 respect for rms, is that of all of these figures, he never had 'about-face' moment.
mircea_popescu: was this past 2017 ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'great' in the andropov sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The missiles themselves may be incremental improvement, but the major point is anti-stealth radar picket it plugs into.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936895 << the four foregoing lines are amusing, because 100% of your emissions re comings and goings of great inca are predictable, always downstream on the basis of "great inca is great".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was the moment asciilifeform realized rms is 100% fungus by weight, and 0 left to salvage
asciilifeform obv. not knows via telepathy
asciilifeform: maybe notbad time to put it on www.
asciilifeform: oh hey mircea_popescu do you still have that letter where he took a shit on asciilifeform's complaint re glibc ?
mircea_popescu: that was his one remaining utility, that we'll supposedly give a shit.
BingoBoingo: I don't see Putin's shift in US-relations as coming too late. US was very committed to blowing its Cold War winnings in Iraq. WTF was Russia to do other than work on the S-400 anti-"Shock and Awe" system and let the US burn treasure on everything else.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:33:41 asciilifeform: for so long as there's a gaggle of idjits who see him having 'auctoritas', his formaldehyde-pickled hide is worth sumthing.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936888 << yes, but post his republican dismissal, there's nothing left in that hide.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he'll be toilet attendant for'em. iirc beyond certain level of fat they actually need 2nd pair of hands to clean arse.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936887 << keks, where ? they long ago gave out every possible square ft to fat black women.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:26:32 BingoBoingo: And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936884 << it's ok, they'll write some mealy mouthed comment in my general direction in some other channel about how they didn't this or that and all will be well.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trade in metal ~not produced~ since ~1991 or so.
asciilifeform: loyal quisling flavoured with 'disobedience' for decades, then suddenly 'moment of clarity' when toolate.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And Clinton sold Uranium to Russia. People trade in the metals all the time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bonus funny re subj -- putin continued selling sovok's plutonium stockpile to washingtonistan all the way to '13 ! ( then -- when stopped in '14 -- got the 'ukrs' fiesta )
mircea_popescu: whole rms thing and what i suppose is here the continuation.
BingoBoingo: Well, the KGB eventually did get Putin to do a sorta Make Russia Great Again
mircea_popescu: i find it quite funny this coincidentallies with discussions of leucosis.
asciilifeform: sorta like the termite house , pylons long ago hollow, finally collapsing into pile o'rubble.
asciilifeform: '91 was simply culmination of this process, when pretense fell away.
asciilifeform: the poisoners -- 'drew quicker'. removed his chosen successor and his wot ; and proceeded to start sawing apart the house and sell to foreigners, feather miami nests.
asciilifeform: $process of course did not start with andropov. but with the derps who poisoned stalin, who was , near as i can tell, gettin' ready to purge the 'party elite' an' replace it w/ the young, vigorous folx who did loyal wetwork for him earlier.
asciilifeform: kgb -- for n00bs -- was ~100% staffed with folx who pissed on whatever oaths, principles, and wanted to proceed asap with converting their keys-to-the-shop into hereditary 'property right' .
asciilifeform: ( kgb -- won ; andropov -- crowned; purged the 'principled' folx, proceeded to do all he could to blow up the pylons on which stood sovok, but croaked promptly, adopted prince gorby was left to ineptly finish up the job )
asciilifeform: episode, at least from my perch, is reminiscent of the undeclared 'civil war' in early '80s sovok b/w kgb and mvd .
asciilifeform: internal usg turf war. google-crapple-et-al miffed that some trickle from printing press still went to the 90yo's at mit 'ai lab' .
BingoBoingo: And so they gotta purge the accesory organs first. Just *maybe* that way they can save their Cintonium core.
BingoBoingo: Well they gotta fuss now because Epstein is THEIR mess.
asciilifeform: ( why nao cement -- i have nfi. it aint as if anyffin was ever likely to rise outta that grave. )
BingoBoingo: It's also possible they don't manage to replace. FSF/OpenSource oppress poor artisan app studios, etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re 'cohesive' -- no moar or less than ameritards. simply in orcistans there does not exist the custom of pseudo-'plurality' that the (formerly) rich 'west' was able (until recently) to afford.
asciilifeform: i suspect it'll be a trans-'chix' or similar.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mandarin allowed honoring Mao-think as a sort of A/B test, and allowed the revision to be popularly embraced. Something about Mandarin lets the Chinese be cohesive on just about anything. It's weird, alien, and seems rather far removed from what is in the Anglo language toolbox.
asciilifeform: this being said -- will be interesting to see which 'bob beck' is crowned as 'new rms'.
asciilifeform: 'old age & treachery beat youth & vigour erry time' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: exactly as happened in sovok, the leninists had 0 lasting dynastic succession, ~100% garbagecollected by stalin & co.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this so, but observe that present-day china is run 100% by (sons of) folx who sat in gulag during 'cultural rev'. and not of the 'red guards'.
BingoBoingo: Bulls still cripple the occasional farmer who turns their back. Grain lifting augers maim quite a few farmers. The fallout from Gawker et al. is that there isn't really much farming going on at the left farm.
asciilifeform: cattle stampeding (all the way into meat plant conveyor) aint 'cattle running the farm', the farm is still a farm and farmer is still the farmer, and meat still grown for market.
BingoBoingo: I suspect English doesn't allow "controlled burns" in the way Mandarin does
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
BingoBoingo: Until it's their turns to get sacrificed as the cultural revolution marches on.
asciilifeform: will say what script tells'em to say.
asciilifeform: the cucklets are extras in this movie.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice, he Officially Recanted , can have corner right next to linus.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This has been done plenty of times before. The kids cry about Microsoft hiring a pedophile enabler, Microsoft kicks Stallman out to the street again. For all the dancing and noise Stallman maybe gets 18-36 hours of cot in the hallway.
asciilifeform: for so long as there's a gaggle of idjits who see him having 'auctoritas', his formaldehyde-pickled hide is worth sumthing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Where's he going to find a hallway. The kids controlling Stallmanable hallways have decided he needs to die, and he doesn't seem to have anything to offer anyone who employs in the saltmines.
BingoBoingo: And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
asciilifeform: i suppose he'll have to find a new hallway to hobo in
asciilifeform: they stood up under flag of 'africa' when, per legend, drowned the sqrt(2) fella.
asciilifeform: as i understand, the 'modern current' (i.e. 'ifuckinglovescience'(tm)(r) zombie worship) existed even in 'the day of plato' -- the pythagoreans & co
asciilifeform: cks in exactly same way, and neither maffs, nor physics, nor even programming, are happening in their hands, but instead elaborate waste of time.
asciilifeform: this particular 'africa' tho is prion-contagious. the software derps decided that 'it's still a valid program' when imports GB of autoconfolade and 'appears to work'. the maffs people decided 'it's still a proof' when imports a GB of softwareliquishit and fits in 0 heads. the physics folx , that 'it's still physics' if used an irreproducible machine built by great inca. whereas per asciilifeform all of these people are pulling own co
mircea_popescu: everywhere else... not so much. hence the appeal, since the day of plato
mircea_popescu: here, and nowhere else, it may indeed be possible the wage of unsin is undeath.
mircea_popescu: anyways -- re miners : the great (really, only) advantage of working with the mind is that the coal dust and the wage are made of the same exact substance
asciilifeform: well if formulate it as a 'jeszcze polska ne zginela / kiedy my zyjemy' , then sure, 'maffs is alive'. in 5-6 heads. not a very big place.
mircea_popescu: it's always "everywhere" dood, wtf do you think newton's complaint was.
asciilifeform: what's it mean for medicine to be 'alive' if zimbabwe is errywhere ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't count the ustards as part of culture. saying "math died because mamie in chicago" is entirely like saying "medicien died because mamie in zimbabwe"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, not deceased afaik, but kinda retired at about the same time. i did my thesis with him.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform counts the maffs komyooniti's swallowing of the autogenned 3colour proof as 'moment of death', but strictly for convenience, entirely possible that died earlier )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:06:25 mircea_popescu: it's conceivableone day might. math very much did manage, but only as of 1905 or thereabouts! at that point it had been around for twenty five to thrity centuries!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936836 << the maffs people in fact achieved the second feat, of sliding in the ~other~ direction.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:05:33 mircea_popescu: besides nonsense dust there;s also joy dust ; they could in principle balance out ; literature as a body of work (though mostly in french, somewhat in latin, defo not in english besides a few hundred pages) achieved that ; "computer programming" never did.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936835 << they could. but they don't. exactly like a coal miner's wage doesn't cancel the black lung.
mircea_popescu: aand since i managed to make myself all fucking sad reading http://trilema.com/2010/prea-multa-presiune/ , might as well archive this
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, the full ten years ago is actually fifteen. whoa time passes.
mircea_popescu: and this was an old blind woman. but apparently it's not the age and it's not the anything else in that vein.
mircea_popescu: schmuck was gonna protect her from me. at the time you could not find a gun in ten counties surroundant who hadn't been on my payroll at some point or another, but he was gonna "protect", with his soccer watching crew an' leased toyota.
mircea_popescu: ight there, growing all shades of purple-pale & stacojiu, thrown from disbelief to rage an' dipped in all possible torment.
mircea_popescu: full ten years ago, at a wedding, where i was the godfather and took chet to be godmother, the ~other pair~ of godparents (romanians do this groom / bride big/small wedding godparents thing) were these average middle class 30something couple. and the dude finally got sufficiently drunk at the party so as to propose to her! assuring her of his protection and etcetera! in a slurred drunk nonsense, and with his fucking wife r
mircea_popescu: perhaps they found a golden cunt lying in the dirt, they might you know, take it home ? this can happen, no ? or if it can't happen then what were all the stories about ?!
mircea_popescu: and before that, on the trip over to castle, girly kneeling in the dirt by the side of the car in some rural parking lot attracted a... garbage truck! full of garbage men! who parked across and solicitously came over to inquire... whether she "ne
mircea_popescu: most recently yesterday : slut kicked out of car over specific failure, wept all the way home. lorry full of workers'd have cut her a deal just as we picked her up on the home stretch because well... she looks like the best hooker in town.
mircea_popescu: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/in-which-orphan-eric-learns-the-value-of-negotiable-instruments-and-saving-in-capital-goods/#footnote_7_81 << this is particularly funny, because almost every time slut gets publicly punished, helpful bystander inquires about a possible acquisit
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall we did have some ad-hoc interdict specced five years ago, is that it ? what's the situation re namesimilarity at registration ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:36:48 hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:29:18 trinque: so yeah, it's not going to let you make another.
mircea_popescu: this may seem like a lengthy stretch, but in fact it quite is : linnaeus' own species only speciated about 3-400`000 years ago, the commitment contemplated here's five times what it took to have homo sapiens.
mircea_popescu: if indeed the relation's extensible, then from the fact that literature was born balanced and math balanced in say 2500 years, we can reasonably expect computerism to also balance in 6`250`000 or thereabouts, meaning more or less year 6`250`950.
mircea_popescu: it's conceivableone day might. math very much did manage, but only as of 1905 or thereabouts! at that point it had been around for twenty five to thrity centuries!
mircea_popescu: besides nonsense dust there;s also joy dust ; they could in principle balance out ; literature as a body of work (though mostly in french, somewhat in latin, defo not in english besides a few hundred pages) achieved that ; "computer programming" never did.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:07:56 asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936825 << there's a neglected effect here.
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/in-which-orphan-eric-learns-the-value-of-negotiable-instruments-and-saving-in-capital-goods/ << lobbesblog -- In which Orphan Eric learns the value of negotiable instruments and saving in capital goods
trinque: so yeah, it's not going to let you make another.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 19:54:58 hanbot: yo trinque, deedbot doesn't like hanbot-abroad's attempts to register with a pubkey pasted to paste.deedbot.org (Import failed), ideas?