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mircea_popescu: 1.
there should be a users
table, wherein existent users passwords are stored hashed.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 17:40:14
trinque: I can almost certainly steal someone's session cookie with a comment if
they do what dpb suggests.
mircea_popescu: so you know, for having had useful users, mp-wp-footnotes matured. and for
the opposite, crystal space not yet.
mircea_popescu: this also means
the code's a preliminary, mock-up. as
the user uses,
the "options" become resolved into actual correct functioning, and
the option-enabling portions get rewritten.
mircea_popescu: and in general,
this is how "offering options" even works : sometimes portions of code function can't be figured out by
the writer, has
to be figured out by
the user.
thus
things like
the eulora gfx engine scriptable parts, or
the mp-wp footnote options.
mircea_popescu: that was iirc
the main item, so
they can just get soldered in altogether.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 17:38:38 billymg: mircea_popescu: do you see any use for UI-set and DB-stored "options" in
the footnotes plugin?
the version in mp-wp has most of
that commented out but it's still storing/referencing
them which is causing weird behavior (and makes it so
the only way you can override
the options is
to manually edit
the db)
mircea_popescu: s it's n olonger naything but. footnotes go into (( )) and
that's
that,
there's no further optionality
there.
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957358 << honestly, no. i
think
the "option"
to "pick
the special chars" was useful at
the onset, when i was figuring out how
the world should work, but double-parens is so well established by now, even etymologically! ("every
time you go on a
tanget, you have
to decide -- is your paranthetical is simple or double?")
that it needn't be misrepresented as an option anymore, a
mircea_popescu: so yeah, i'd very much prefer anyone doing anything for me
treat a "suspension" for any
term and for any reason as === a lifetime ban of
the alleged "provider"/scammer.
mircea_popescu: the natural counterbalance of a hallucinated right
to "suspend" is
the very real freedom
to
treat
the hallucinator as a common scammer, which is PRECISELY what
they are.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 16:22:00 lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went
to do a 'dry run' install of everything on
the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags
that I'm currently ironing out (such as ports being blocked,
them 'suspending'
the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin)
hanbot_abroad: billymg what *are*
the options on footnotes, even?
ave1: and fished out another legitimate comment out of
the spam bin.
ave1: dorion, I got
the pingpack and
the comment went into spam, retrieved...
dorion: ave1 I left you a
comment though it didn't specifically say it went
to moderation. I have it saved so let me know if you had any issue getting it.
billymg: most of
the
time was spent looking up php functions
billymg: my preference would be for replacing 'default_options' and 'current_option' with a single 'option' object in
the plugin, no longer storing
these in db, and letting users edit
that 'options' variable in
the php file instead of having
to manually edit
the db
billymg: once set,
the plugin loads
these options from
the db into 'current_options' which is used
throughout
the plugin
billymg: the footnotes.php plugin has an object with 'default_options', if
the options are not present in
the db (e.g. on first run),
they are set in
the db based on
the 'default_options'
trinque: I can almost certainly steal someone's session cookie with a comment if
they do what dpb suggests.
billymg: mircea_popescu: do you see any use for UI-set and DB-stored "options" in
the footnotes plugin?
the version in mp-wp has most of
that commented out but it's still storing/referencing
them which is causing weird behavior (and makes it so
the only way you can override
the options is
to manually edit
the db)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-24 12:59:24 diana_coman: jfw: Keksum's 3rd genesis
is now signed and mirrored; as you've gathered already
the previous comments on your article directly, I linked
that and
there's no need
that I see for an additional article; also, you messed up something with your Keksum's article
title now.
jfw: sense,
thanks. No sense in avoiding healthful activity just because cancer is possible.
jfw:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957253 - I was due for a re-read on ye olde crime of being an american, huh. Reflecting on when
the article first found me, probably 2015ish, my reaction was
to continue
the path of distancing myself from
the mob, but also
to keep a distance from
this perceived cthulhu pointing
the gun at me for
the happenstance of birth.
The hospital analogy makes
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:49:03 mircea_popescu:
the fundamental problems are
that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in
terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously
the afflicted are scarcely aware, but
this doesn't mean
they're not afflicted.
lobbes: I will keep you updated as
the ironing continues
lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957332 << long story short I went
to do a 'dry run' install of everything on
the shinjiru server and uncovered a host of snags
that I'm currently ironing out (such as ports being blocked,
them 'suspending'
the service in error for a day, and my general derpage with basic sysadmin)
hanbot_abroad: yeah, i was
talking
to nicoleci about her "etymology" series, and didn't notice i was
typing into #trilema rather'n #trilema-hanbot until she higlighted me
there. it was...a confusing second and a half, lol
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 09:19:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, you should
talk more, bitch.
mircea_popescu: i've muted it for now. get back
to me asap, once it's fucking fixed, and what
the fuck bright idea was
this
to replace a working "bad" bot with a "better" one
that a) dun fucking work and b) isn't even maintained.
ossabot: (eulora) 2020-01-22 lobbes: mircea_popescu:
this was a bit of regression after rewriting bot from lobbesbot
to auctionbot; I neglected
to re-code in
the "check if spoken previously before announcing" piece. I will put
this on my list
to fix
ericbot: Logged on 2020-01-06 22:05:12 mircea_popescu: incidentally lobbes , now
that i'm back @travelbase or how shall i put
this, shall we get back
to
the logger
thing ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-06 21:50:34 lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2020-01-06#1956654 <<
this week I've commited
to getting a Gales install and report complete, however next week I was indeed going
to work on
the final setup and
testing for
the mp-wp logger. If all goes well I should be free
to give it another shot on around
the 20th of
this month
hanbot_abroad: at which point i widen
the freaking channel name column lmao
hanbot_abroad: oh good god i've been in
the wrong channel
the whole
time.
hanbot_abroad: Wiktionary provides us
that
the etymology of
the word comes from << "provides
that" is a strange construction; generally a provision is a
thing (hence provides us with) rather
than a fact (provides us
that). an obvious exception would be "provides us
that
thing which is xyz". also a minor point, just, you know...making a point of pointing
them out lol.
hanbot_abroad: the 'old' French word <<
the word isn't 'old' as in part of modern french, but just old. Old French is a language, like Old English;
they're sufficiently different (in various aspects, from phonology
to spelling
to actual vocabulary) from
their modern inheritors
to warrant different classification. did
they give you chaucer
to read in school?
hanbot_abroad: " In
the end, most of
the changes I brainstormed regarding structure did not seem
to benefit
the content. " << inasmuch as you didn't decide
to use
those structural changes you contemplated,
they did in fact benefit
the content --you judged
they weren't right, for whatever reason.
they're negative space, but just as in a piece of art
they're still *there*.
hanbot_abroad: BingoBoingo you're welcome
to #t-h
to your heart's content, and nothing stops you from using it for your goals before
the month is out either, even if it's just
to rant/wonder out loud.
hanbot_abroad: bvt, diana_coman
tyvm for
the links. none are
the specific itam i'm looking for,
though all could be used
to segue into
the discussion of such, so once i (probably) peter out on
the search i'll pick from
there...and naturally
the re-reading is pleasant.
this isn't even a bad reading compass,
throw an idea into chan, enter
the reading linkmaze
thusly! :D
mircea_popescu: as per which foregoing coversation,
the issuance of
the long-overdue qntra quarterly is delayed yet again. what can i do, apologies
to
the interested parties.
BingoBoingo: Give me one month
to
try
to shed
the alfisms, and make a hard outreach push
to break
the 'Qntra looks a whole like like BingoBoingo's other blog' appearance. I'll include a day by day in
the weekly recaps, and if material improvement isn't showing in a month... I'll pledge
to #ossasepia or #trilema-hanbot if
they'll have me in
their castles.
mircea_popescu: i dun have
time for
the retarded pre-teen's world model. either make
that
thing live or get off
the horse so i know i have yet another job unhandled rather
than
think it handled while it's being slowly but "defensibly" driven into
the very ground.
mircea_popescu: that's
the fantasy is it ? something along
those lines,
that if one jacks of ~dedicatedly~ enough in solitude eventually
the picture he's spunking all over will come
to life ?
mircea_popescu: this has nothing
to do with "how well you write". i'm aware
this is
the
typical gambit of
the being an engineer, he's gonna -- don't you know -- be SO GOD DAMEND GOOD at being funny/caring/whatever
the girl he ain't said hi
to yet is gonna... nfi, rematerialize our of his dirty sheets and start doing
the laundry one day.
mircea_popescu: this procedure whereby you'll do whatever
the fuck it is you feel like doing anyway, and expect
the republic
to feed and clothe you didn't work for alf, nor will it work for you. cuz it's pure hallucinatoria, it ain't how anything works
mircea_popescu: leaving aside what you say, which is as fine as any sayings ever were i'm sure, who you are (on
the basis
that is ever determined -- which is, WHAT YOU DO) is
this dude who's lazily hitched his cart
to what he perceives
to be a moving beast of burden, and whatever, if we
take it somewhere fine, and if not, i dunno... nobody could accuse you of being a lazy ineffectual fuck ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll keep Qntra hosted, and I'll mark a hard pivot into outreach. I'll start by shooting cazalla an email now
to see if he's alive or succumbed
to "life's cheaper" in Asia.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, well, yeah,
that kinda was
the conclusion once
the original bitcoin isp went south, also.
mircea_popescu: dorion, sorry, left comment on wrong article. meanwhile added
to
the right one, mind deleting
the spurious one ?
BingoBoingo: And I do have
to improve my organization game.
BingoBoingo: I'll work on cranking up
the outreach now
that Pizarro's dead, buried, and done. Last month I made an effort
to bring
the 'bicycle guy' who'd been doing Pizarro liquidity into
the WoT. We met up a few
times
to
talk Bitcoin and Republic, and
the evils of socialism. He kept expressing interest, but around
the New Year he went silent. I suspect spawnweight and nagwife did him in.
mircea_popescu: what's next wednesday
to do with all
this, are we posing for a popeye cartoon or something ?
mircea_popescu: since you've been running
things, you've done a little
that ever diminished, and well... i dunno, never looked at it much, either.
mircea_popescu: from where i'm sitting,
the matter's not by wednesday evening. qntra originally started in
the other five year plan, you know, not
the one ending recently,
the one before
that. cazalla did a little outreach, which is part of how eg you ended up
there, but
then found his way back
to
the spawnfarms.
BingoBoingo: I'll hammer a more refined plan out of
the paper notebook on
the desk and put it on
the blog. Should be ready by Wednesday evening.
BingoBoingo: The only walk in on irc has been shinohai, but so far he's not come with written pieces in hand or expressed interest in
trying
to establish a disciplined writing workflow. He's just expressed interest without having one of
the
two
things I can say yes
to. I can say yes
to a piece or I can say yes
to
the desire
to put
together a workflow
to make pieces. So far he isn't bringing either.
BingoBoingo: It's been a while since I've done one of
these sweeps, and I want
to see what all
the Latinos saying Bitcoin around me are doing, and if any might be able
to do disciplined writing.
BingoBoingo: Well, next month I'm inclined
to
try
to meet up will all
the folks advertising local Bitcoin
trades online. Letting
them know what
the Republic is, etc.
The number advertising
themselves here has grown as Argentina's shit itself out of being a place Venezuelans can do
the remittance loop
thing.
mircea_popescu: ideally, let's revisit
the plans wrt attracting writers and improving circulation, and
their respective state of implementation.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, where would you like me
to start?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, one of
these days we're gonna have
that
talk about qntra already ; you around ?
diana_coman: at
the same
time upping
the writing productions all around so
there's *less*
time
to read it,
too! :D
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:39:43 mircea_popescu: build it around
the relationship,
their building,
their lifecycle,
their needs. do not build it around
the imaginary "point",
that isn't.
mircea_popescu: heres an idea, let's standardize all
terminals
to 70 colons
therefore
mircea_popescu: oh look at me, all
the lines i enter are exactly
the same length now.
mircea_popescu: dorion, why's your article start with an <em> ? is
that intentional ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot_abroad, did it use
the example of kids pictures parents show ?
hanbot_abroad: meanwhile i'm on a multi-day search for a
trilema piece
that clearly delineated
the male mode as "being" and
the female mode as "doing"...the uselessness of
these key
terms makes
the search a drag without some other anchor. anyone remember
this/remember something else about it?
hanbot_abroad: ave1 do drop in, i'd love
to see what your output is like if your
time is spent in
tune with organized priorities.
mircea_popescu: ave1, you know, uniquely among
the lands
tmsr actually has support systems for such problems. why not drop in say #trilema-hanbot
try
the working method, as opposed
to
trying
to self-invent methadone by yourself alone ?
mircea_popescu: so you have some grounds
to expect
that indeed, "clearly labeling A" does soemthing. nevertheless, what it doesn't do is... solve
the problem.