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the_scourge: er, maybe i blame the mob more than their journalists... whatever
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: right, i was talking about the world at large. you can stick a fork in journalistic integrity, it's done
the_scourge: well i take it your goal is to prevent nefarious hijacking of bitcoind, done in such a way that everyone upgrades and long after it is realized that the network is resultingly compromised?
the_scourge: idk man i appreciate your sleuthing and keep it up but holding the btc foundation's feet to the fire will NEVER work
the_scourge: i've given it my long key id... it says invalid (so quickly i have a hard time believing it even did a search)
the_scourge: i'm being a mong with this !register command
asciilifeform: if it is in there after all - i'd appreciate a pointer.
asciilifeform: or, at the very least, i was not able to find such a description
the_scourge: oh yah i see
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but i was digging for proof that a) there are < 0.8 nodes in the candidate list b) none were selected
mircea_popescu: (i imagine it goes by file extension)
mircea_popescu: nope. but i could have, and the file'd have been .asc too
mircea_popescu: should i force clearsigned material be saved as .txt ?
jurov: yes, that's what i'm doing. it just insists that application/pgp is not text
asciilifeform: i think jurov is working on that one
mircea_popescu: (somehoiw i thought this was the case)
mircea_popescu: oh i c
mircea_popescu: anyway, explain to me like i'm slow, there's a problem with the thing as presented ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no message body cause when i put it in the body it got mangled to hell
asciilifeform: jurov: that's not the problem i'm talking about. rather, the fact that turdatron could not possibly have processed this message on its own.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000047.html << i think jurov slipped this through manually. there is no message body, signed or otherwise
the_scourge: do i just do the same dance with assbot?
the_scourge: oh wait, i've only set up my gpg key, do i need to associate a bitcoin address as well?
the_scourge: i thought i was... one sec
the_scourge: do the russians make LTE hotspots? they've started making smartphones with e-ink, but it's a shame i didn't hear about it until after i went off of smartphones entirely
the_scourge: also, north america sometimes. but right now i just need a UK dongle that has chinese backdoors instead of american
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, i dreamed up a new licensing model which teh foundation and us generally might wish to consdier.
mircea_popescu: jurov uh but how do i fin the file ?
the_scourge: and sadly i was on a VERY VERY VERY large very flat network with more class A IPs than ... almost any other entity on the planet. and lots of buggy ssdp routers all over the place 'cause of the (phys) architecture
asciilifeform: the_scourge: i've discovered that cellular modems, at least in the way they are operated in usa, are immune to this type of ddos.
the_scourge: this is a paying client. even though everything pointed to me being targeted, i still didn't want to make more noise than i already had
the_scourge: i didn't ask for the USB stick
the_scourge: yes it was ssdp, i couldn't remember (brain fart and i'm home chilling)
the_scourge: but what's most interesting is the shape of the traffic and the packets... i was plugged into a sub-campus and it would appear that it was using dynamic discovery protocol over http for amplification (using any device that supports it)
the_scourge: and it was one of the more impressive ones i've ever seen, and i used to see top quality ones on a daily basis
the_scourge: i JUST got ddos'd once last night and twice earlier today
mircea_popescu: TomServo i dunno why he's so strung up on it ; semicolon is perfectly fine way to end things ; it also happens to be the traditional english ending of "separable entities that are for ulterior reasons strung together".
mircea_popescu: just as long as i get back the control, i see no problem with !derp!herp!router!alf
mircea_popescu: you know ? i'm all ready to go back to bang paths over here.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i am suprised list has nothing under 0.8
mircea_popescu: jurov btw i can guarantee my client did no skullduggery to the email. i have the outgoing saved as sent by the mta.
trinque: punkman: "droned" << heh, I just got a call from a weird number saying they received a package addressed to me
mircea_popescu: punkman: ^ if the block the bundle tx ends up in disappears, I think best idea is to make new tx << no. there's exactly no reason for deedbot to have block awareness. if the tx disappears, it should not notice.
TomServo: I noticed a fully-synced node maintains its IRC connection. I was curious if that's desirable, and also if that means you're made a candidate to fill other nodes?
mircea_popescu: punkman: always makes me think "is this the day I get droned?" << just checking the line's still live.
asciilifeform: i'll probably do it
mircea_popescu: "All programs have been written, and that program is Lisp. With perfection already attained, implementation is left to the ignorant who do not already know the truth of this." << shit, now i know why i don't code.
mircea_popescu: and there;'s a coupla more folks i wouldn'
asciilifeform: e.g., the stuff i backported
mircea_popescu: o hey good idea. why didn't i think of that!
asciilifeform: incidentally, i have no idea who sipa is, but does appear to do much of the gruntwork in phoundation's bitcoind
mircea_popescu: jurov sure but i thought there was some funny story involved
mircea_popescu: trinque: who in the fuck let these bastards steal fire from the gods, and why wasn't I told about this? << but... http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GreenspunsTenthRuleOfProgramming
asciilifeform: 10 whole lines were same, i think
mircea_popescu: what im not halucinating i saw a oh diff similar one ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i read that off the mail list ?
asciilifeform: jurov: if i attach it as attachment, will it display as normal message in turdatron (special case rule ?)
thestringpuller: "I'm going to drill holes in the bottom of all the mugs to illustrate a point"
lobbes: jurov: aha, I had not for some time. I'm digging the new look
mircea_popescu: trinque: should I be de-publishing things that ended up timestamped on a dropped fork? << things can't end up detimestamped in the first place.
lobbes: http://thebitcoin.foundation/index.html << I see y'all went for the 'hacker-green-and-black' after all
coderwill: that's an interesting question - I would say yes, but that I debate whether or not that is actually English or a regionalism
coderwill: hehe, I know a few latin americans that might disagree w/ that sentiment.
mod6: oh yeah, i stopped it for now. i'll mess with it later tonight.
mod6: wow this thing ran all night wedged @ 168,000: but didn't die http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=384mvxXm
punkman: ^ if the block the bundle tx ends up in disappears, I think best idea is to make new tx
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2015 05:11:42; trinque: should I be de-publishing things that ended up timestamped on a dropped fork?
jurov: punkman: your email client wordwrapped the clearsigned text, i was able to undo it
jurov: and i was trying things like http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wot+database
jurov: i have found this but it won't work with short key ids: http://w.b-a.link/trust/7C1FBEC924FBD66531A02AE3F95E4E395927DC9C/FC66C0C5D98C42A1D4A98B6B42F9985AFAB953C4/json
cazalla: i dunno, "goodbye" sounds a bit prophetic, i'd be getting the tinfoil hat and shotty, parachute at the ready
punkman: granted, I'm not in drone country and the paranoia feels a couple decades early.
punkman: always makes me think "is this the day I get droned?"
asciilifeform: jurov: i post a mega-study of phoundation's nodes and your turdatron swallows it
trinque: who in the fuck let these bastards steal fire from the gods, and why wasn't I told about this?
trinque: fluffypony: when I finally learned lisp it was the same feeling towards every other scripty language
fluffypony: then I'll have to stop using the name
mod6: i guess maybe one other time it ran a long time like this until it ran out of memory and blew its brains out
fluffypony: asciilifeform: "waffle" is my go-to when I talk hypotheticals...WaffleCoin, WaffleOS, WaffleDB
trinque: heh I like the line from the "mongo is webscale thing"
trinque: now I understand why some idiot did a "crypto coin in couchdb"
trinque: asciilifeform: rdbms is the surgical one, I hope
trinque: should I be de-publishing things that ended up timestamped on a dropped fork? ☟︎
trinque: I think I'll just give deedbot an out to spend and when it's depleted it's done, insert another please
trinque: "sorry database, I don't know the data I want by name. You're supposed to tell me that..."
mod6: i'll put together some log snippits when it does
trinque: I look at this api and say "surely there are not this number of core abstractions..."
mod6: this is strange, last like 5-6 times i got wedged at 168,000 it errored out pretty quickly (like the snippit in the matrix doc), but now, taking a good while...
mircea_popescu: an' with that, i bid you a good night!
mircea_popescu: i don't see the letter dns servers perceive any need for putting my fucking ip in their list anywhere.
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought we were still thinking in the 'gifts to gurlz at parties' train of thought
mircea_popescu: there is no burden that i can conceive where one's held to ship with prefilled config files.
asciilifeform: i.e. random sampling of planet
asciilifeform: i will not know where the contents of the crate will be plugged in
asciilifeform: say i were to prepare a crate of pogos today
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not grasp how one could see the 1848 revolts as failed.
asciilifeform: ^ i would much like to see that mega-portscan happen. it is really the only sane way to generate a proper seedlist.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, maybe, but i read demand for au minerals has tanked too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you thinking 1907 ? i dun see the 1848 angle in any light.
mircea_popescu: you see a nail go "don't hit me unless i actually go in the wall" ?