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the_scourge: and hey i'm of the "catch and eat it raw" line of thought as well, it's just that from a scientific look, spirulina does require a lot less investment
the_scourge: i mean, the digestive effort
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better than meat than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done to meat before your body can digest it :D << Must go in mouth. Even raw I digest fine.
asciilifeform: aha, i found it...
mircea_popescu: i thouyght it was an algae
asciilifeform: punkman: hence why i suggested letting it alone for now.
punkman: as for moving satoshi cpuminer to different binary, it's gonna need to use the "getwork" avenue, so I'm guessing that'd be a significant rewrite
asciilifeform: punkman: i suspect that 'gold standard' will remain largely satoshi-based for a very long time.
punkman: asciilifeform: satoshi's miner is valuable for the same reasonas the rest of that piece of shit << is it valuable? I thought the goal was to replace satoshi's hairballs.
the_scourge: adlai: thanks i'll start doing that :)
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: jargon studies? i did read the jargon file front to back if that's what you mean. long long time ago though
nubbins`: by that measure, i've got 3,000-page beasts that are not dictionaries
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: true but we all bring different things to the table, i could write a book on NRx history, philosophy etc: that is proof of hard work done
asciilifeform: i only dislike them when they're annoying and illiterate.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't much care if all the n00bs are american generals. let'em learn a little.
the_scourge: i wish i had saved my credit for you asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: i see little in there other than "agend desperate to create personal raport as attempts to control teh public venue aren't working for ununderstood reasons that look scary."
adlai: a little relevant, and then i must break scalpl manually if it won't do so of its own accord: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0
mircea_popescu: i defy you to find a spec anywhere in use in the shitstack today that manages to not include things it really has no business specifying.
adlai: the only good thing i have to say about scheme is that it's abstruse enough that sometimes college students pay me to write it for them :)
assbot: Re: "Well, I want to switch over to replace EMACS LISP with Guile." - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1x8GkHh )
adlai: mircea_popescu: right, it's more that i'll find some really interesting book, get all excited about reading it, and then change my mind when i see a three page index
the_scourge: last time i was involved, people had the same concerns, but on the miner side of things
the_scourge: i'm a bit more interested in asciilifeform's book buying process right now
nubbins`: incidentally, that scene is why i stopped watching Saw movies
adlai: my book-buying process (when i'm in an actual bookstore and can flip through the book) is made or broken by the quality of the index
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read through some logs
mircea_popescu: adlai the same process ruined me for books. i'm like "fucking paper no grep"
the_scourge: ok i'm looking on that site for a wiki... where can i find out > why nodes, and not miners?
the_scourge: yah i was going to buy a pogo for nas work at home. but then i spent $way_too_much_fiat and built a xeon one instead
nubbins`: oh, no, i did. right on.
nubbins`: hm, did i order a pogo?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'pogo' was suggested (iirc, i suggested it) purely on account of cost (and the fact of chassis and power supply being included in the cost, pre-assembled)
nubbins`: i have a handheld gps unit that runs wince
trinque: the_scourge: I think it's a bit of a problem to expect anything other than barbarism from those trained to execute it at industrial scale
the_scourge: trinque: for an example of what i mean, watch the russian throat slitting vidoes... not tactically strong
the_scourge: trinque: you are (generally) correct, i was just saying in the russian army, i think some of the weird shit was a result of the slavery
the_scourge: asciilifeform: this is true of many places. i was lucky in that i was in a place where they glorified individual thinking, as much as possible
asciilifeform: the_scourge: tactical success, as i think it well known, is not the only thing expected of a soldier
the_scourge: asciilifeform: and i'm doing a bad job of it, to be honest i've never been asked and i've never tried externalizing it
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i was trying to get to the nuances. not the shocking shit
the_scourge: erm yah what bootnecks do it public knowledge i mean bear grylls does videos about the weird stuff
adlai: as far as approved exercises go, the worst i had was a week spent with a single day's food ration, most of which was spent in full NBC gear
adlai: the_scourge is describing approved exercises. i'm describing legends about what happens in elite units outside the approval and regulation of the main army bodies.
adlai: asciilifeform: i've heard stories ranging from having your nose broken, to being strung up like a pig over an open fire, to having your 'captors' alternate between putting your gun barrel up your ass and in your mouth - all of this to get you to 'break' and reveal a secret
the_scourge: it's interesting how the israeli culture generally knows about some of these nuances. the bootneck culture lives and breathes them and i don't think i could have bought that for any price
the_scourge: but again, before, i didn't even know what those things were. it's more than just crawling through broken glass for miles. there are a lot of subtle nuances
the_scourge: adlai: 1. i tried very hard before, during and after to get as much tactical benefit as possible. 2. you're right, and in retrospect i could have done equally well by making shedloads of money and shooting a lot, training a lot, hiring and doing private training
adlai: not having actually been in such units, i'm speaking from impressions of people who were - but it seems as though the army trains people to be useful to the army, and any personal benefit that people got out of these units was mainly due to their own efforts to better themselves
the_scourge: or shayetet13 - i wasn't young or patriotic ... and i wasn't when i got a good slot in the british military. i was having the same thoughts as moldbug, but instead of blogging about it i decided to become as deadly as possible in as short amount of time as possible
the_scourge: i was interested in shesh shesh tesha at the time :D
the_scourge: adlai: i don't even know what unit that is
asciilifeform: i could used a golden toilet too
the_scourge: which was retarded i was working on a kibbutz as a lifeguard and i was tearing up guys on their weekends on runs/workouts
the_scourge: oh cool i was going to join the IDF but they said i was too old
adlai: so yes, three years, full time, and reserve duty for the extent of my healthy adult life (unless/til i move out of the country)
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] 'vulture capital' << i'm surprised you're not making the easy poo joke here too
the_scourge: adlai: i'm one of those damn tea drinkers. well actually i'm not but w/e
the_scourge: oh yah apparently mats is predisposed right now i tried pinging him a while ago
the_scourge: yah, i would hope putin has his historians working overtime right now
asciilifeform: the_scourge: as a boy i was fond of reading ungodly quantities of ww2 minutiae. and i remember marvelling that the luftwaffe had to pay xxx reichsmarks, for, e.g., a v2 rocket. 'why did nazis have to pay for things,' i asked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i understand, they were an early proxy slavecoin.
the_scourge: nothing holds their value other than the force of the issuer's military. i served in one of them
the_scourge: nothing has ever been monetized successfully that couldn't be turned into swords or necklaces or circuitboards or compressors (or eaten but i'm going back a ways now)
the_scourge: i was thinking about this the other day ... some smart people say that if there is not secondary use (no matter how minor, compared to the total volume) then something cannot be monetized
the_scourge: i know the story
the_scourge: sorry, i was going to ask earlier but... shit happened
ben_vulpes: <chetty> [] email that actually sends what you want and nothing else would be a worthy project :) << gnus, part of emacs, has worked for probably longer than i've been alove
the_scourge: adlai: to be honest my time doing the market data, i was more focused on getting an inside education on the more... interesting things in the financial markets, than stacking my CV with kernel/ASIC achievements. and in that regards i came out quite well
the_scourge: right so translation helped. and i knew there was a reason i still keep a urxvt instance running, even though it's horribly bloated
the_scourge: adlai: oh, i should have said there was custom hardware involved. and 48 core bulldozer CPUs (bad decision, but made before i arrived)
the_scourge: to be honest i just did the studies to get away from computers for a few hours a day.... also to answer the big questions in life
the_scourge: and for education... fuck that seems like a long time ago but among other things i did a masters in ancient philosophy, languages and regilion. studied greek and aramaic and history as well
mircea_popescu: i c.
the_scourge: in another life it was all systems programming etc but then i decided to go to the UK and join the Royal Marines... really really long story
the_scourge: erm well i work for myself doing ... what is interesting/profitable. was market data kernel tuning, then perl coding, now more 'devops' stuff
the_scourge: i've just finish reading all of his non-bitcoin and non-economics posts (those are two things he ... isn't that brilliant with)
trinque: I've seen him mentioned
mircea_popescu: http://crookedtimber.org/2013/11/21/ <<> read it. best primer of macroeconomics for noobs i ever saw.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: oh i see!
trinque: I hadn't ever thought about it in those terms before
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i have not.
the_scourge: uh, i verified but assbot didn't announce it in here...
trinque: I thought I was going to have to re-chew the blockchain up from first funding each time to see whether "new shit had come to light"
trinque: ben_vulpes and I were talking about blockchain forks when last we hacked it up, but I guess that does not mean transactions will have to be retransmitted?
trinque: mircea_popescu: having read logs it seems like everything I was worrying about regarding timestamp-transactions is moot
the_scourge: yah ... i thought i was (again)
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't particularly mind gavin trying to create a scamcoin, nor whatever "public oppinion" support he may muster.
the_scourge: am i ... doing it justice? so far?
the_scourge: i read that article, it seemed to be saying that smaller POW protocols would always be subject to hardness attacks
chetty: riiight, and I am sure he will now be a good boy
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: can you elaborate on your assertion? i don't like making assumptions
chetty: well last I heard he was a convict, so I guess we know who is greasing his palm
asciilifeform: though i prefer 'vulture capital'
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i know i make good joke!?
the_scourge: cool, can you clarify? i like prose so feel free to link
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i propose name 'piratic license'
mircea_popescu: im neither. i'm a fucking guelph. that's a white flag you see behind, and the battle is for imperial immediacy not bs.
mircea_popescu: jurov o splendid, i got a mod notice and everything. i like how this works.
the_scourge: 20th century? a bit myopic? otherwise i agree