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mircea_popescu: wikipedia is not "pretty good by the standards of any encyclopedia", it is "pretty good by the standards of any encyclopedia that were not an encyclopedia but a wikipedia instead"
mircea_popescu: Chillum again, that an elephant which counts to three is pretty great as far as elephants go does not make this a mathematical discussion.
Chillum: it is a shitfest
asciilifeform: i would pay 10x for a version sans the garbage
decimation: there's a few ounces of wine in the turd-soup
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a man-portable encyclopaedia (and Forth interpreter!) that runs on two batteries for several years and does not need the net seemed like a good idea.
asciilifeform: and a 'random' toggle
asciilifeform: it has a copy of the ascii portion of wikipedia snapshot circa year of production
asciilifeform: actually i have a small experimental verification
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh there was a good bit of 2-way
mircea_popescu: actually ... it's pretty much incipient socialism realism. perhaps a little better. not much.
Chillum: We admins have a saying over on the private wikipedia admin channel: Gurer vf ab pnony
asciilifeform: decimation: he concluded - in my view, correctly - that a senile 3rd reich would look quite like today's senile 4th
decimation: Chillum: that's because nobody gives a fuck about jupiter
asciilifeform: decimation: mr mold had a piece on this
Chillum: tell me with a straight face that this article has no information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter
asciilifeform: 'information is a difference that makes a difference' -- also traditional
mircea_popescu: not every roadkill's a live dog.
asciilifeform: Chillum: may as well take over a psych ward to get at the valuable napoleons therein
mircea_popescu: Chillum if that thing's information i'm a sort of misunderstood pope.
Chillum: I am a wiki dude because I have bond villian like ambitions. One needs to control information, being a wikipedia admin is a good start
asciilifeform: in the 'someone gives a fuck if you come back from the front' sense ?
Chillum: I admit though, I went through a lot of shit women before I found a good one
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2015 01:19:34; mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
asciilifeform: but you still -need to be powerful- to keep a harem. in that you need the 'extra electron shells' to attract it with.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has a point here, in that a pet does not -cost- very much per se
asciilifeform: on a body
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet women live on average on a dollar a day.
asciilifeform: this is like asking which is better to get, a 'boeing' or a 'trabant.'
asciilifeform: what do you mean "have to work with" ? << some folks can afford a palace and a stable of pets to cultivate therein; others - yellow pages, when they get 'bonus' salary. on holidays.
mircea_popescu: not that i care, i'll be making money on this deal, but from a systemic perspective it sucks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i know, i'll be suing a dc, moving the thing etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's again put it in terms of sex. given the choice does it seem a better strategy to keep long term warm intimate relations with a long list of sluts, or does it seem more workable to just keep the yellow pages close and hope the massage salon person understands what you mean ?
assbot: Logged on 24-11-2014 23:13:14; asciilifeform: ultimately, being a builder of industry at the 1917 (or even today's) tech level, fundamentally sucks. as in, the same way being in prison sucks. so stalin et. al. tried experiment: what if being a peasant sucked -more- ? and - it worked.
asciilifeform: notably, this -required- widespread misery of a kind superficially unrelated to industry, to make industry practical
asciilifeform: the english got a massive head start by having been the inventors of the turn-people-into-industrial-feedstock thing.
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2015 04:18:05; decimation: the contrast between the German soldiers, bronzed and clean-cut from a youth spent in the sunshine on an adequate diet, and the first British war prisoners, with their hollow chests, round shoulders, pasty complexions and bad teeth – tragic examples of the youth that England had neglected so irresponsibly in the years between the wars."
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2015 04:18:04; decimation: the 'forced exercise' idea reminds me of a passage in the 'rise and fall of the third reich': "The young in the Third Reich were growing up to have strong and healthy bodies, faith in the future of their country and in themselves and a sense of fellowship and camaraderie that shattered all class and economic and social barriers. I thought of that later, in the May days of 1940, when along the road betwee
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asciilifeform: decimation: my understanding is that germany, like japan, had a few living scraps of functional tradition survive the 20th c. woodchipper
decimation: they can't be easily fired, generally treated with a degree of 'tenure'
decimation: asciilifeform: european welfare statism is fucktarded, but they do have a degree of escape from this treadmill
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
assbot: A piece of cake on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PuXdsg )
asciilifeform: as pictured in http://trilema.com/2014/a-piece-of-cake
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, in general tech seems to be managed on a 'what have done for me lately' basis
asciilifeform: naggum's 'managing an unskilled labor force means easy access to people who are skilled in whatever is needed right now, not an investment in people -- which leads to the conclusion that a programmer is only as valuable as his ability to get another job fast.'
asciilifeform: 'On April 9, a search warrant was served at Tucker's home and a computer had an operating system used by hackers, DPS said.'
decimation: asciilifeform: just like 'first-to-market-crapware' is also a short term winning strategy
mircea_popescu: a vigilante vandal ? v is prolly very jealous.
asciilifeform: in reality, the whole thing is a game-theoretical boojum
mircea_popescu: Cummerbund just tweaking your chain a little.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was written already, in a parallel universe where this was not the actuality.
mircea_popescu: someone should write a sf piece about a deranged capitalist who deliberately buys up software outfits to torture the engineers.
asciilifeform: decimation: it did. for a while, anyway.
decimation: asciilifeform: but does working as a usg employee at jpl really free him from java hell?
mircea_popescu: bad writing is just the outside manifestation of a dysfunctional mind.
asciilifeform: eers seemed to work reasonably well there. It's just not a business model in which I wish to be involved, at least not on the component-provider side. So after a year at Google I quit and returned to JPL.' << the once well-known erann gatt, aka ron garrett.
asciilifeform: a local frustration maximum. ... One of the reasons I decided to go work for Google was that they were not using Java. So of course you can guess what my first assignment was: lead the inaugural Java development at the company, what eventually became Google AdWords. ... And that was the end of Lisp at Google. In retrospect I am not convinced that he made the wrong decision. The interchangeable component model of software engin
asciilifeform: gramming in Java means a life of continual and unremitting pain. So I vowed I would never be a Java programmer, which pretty much shut me out of 90% of all software engineering jobs in the late 90's. This was OK since I was managing to put together a reasonably successful career as a researcher. But after Remote Agent I found myself more and more frustrated, and the opportunity to work at Google just happened to coincide with
asciilifeform: word "training" in relation to professional activities. Training is what you do to dogs. What you should be doing with people is educating them, not training them. There is a big, big difference.) To my mind, the hallmark of the interchangeable component model of software engineers is Java. Without going into too many details, I'll just say that having programmed in Lisp the shortcomings of Java are glaringly obvious, and pro
asciilifeform: 'One of the reasons I stayed at JPL for twelve years was that I was appalled at what the software industry had become. The management world has tried to develop software engineering processes that allow people to be plugged into them like interchangeable components. The "interface specification" for these "components" usually involves a list of tools in which an engineer has received "training." (I really detest the use of the
asciilifeform: (consists, naturally, of a miniature google circa 2001 preserved in amber)
mircea_popescu: but srsly, i can't for the life of me imagine a different way to run a tech corp these days.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have (or rather had) a mole there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ehg for all you know working at google is essentially having to report on this private irc server twice a week
asciilifeform: 'Using such inferior languages is like asking a chef who could have done wonders with any kind of raw materials, to use a dirty kitchen, a broken refrigerator with food that is about to die a second time, broken tools, and brownish tap water that tasted of swamp land. His first task would be to clean up the place. Creating food in there would be the furthest from his mind. That's how I feel about Perl and C++. I prefer to
asciilifeform: decimation: it is all a matter of what constraints you are willing to work in
decimation: asciilifeform: by that definition, nearly everybody working 'in tech' today is a slave
asciilifeform: 'hired to solve problem' means that you are theoretically free to do it with a computer made of trained squirrels pushing trinary equations, so long as this fits the constraints set by the client.
asciilifeform: more to the point, anyone hired with a public advertisement in reference to particular programming languages is hired as meatrobot
decimation: it's a bit late there isn't it?
mircea_popescu: dude... somewhere there must be a lawyer who legally changed his name to
mircea_popescu: on one hand, their patent inability to come up with anything worth the mention since adwords would be concerning. on the other hand, naggum's observation that you wouldn't know smarter than you if it hit you on the head holds a lot of water.
mircea_popescu: a...what
trinque: man, that's a smile headed for mediocre state bureaucracy someday
decimation: she's a woman, her mug is plastered on the webpage
trinque: guy's a decider
decimation: Pasco County Clerk Dr. O'Neil holds a Doctorate in Philosophy in Applied Management and Decision Sciences, and is a Certified Public Manager,
decimation: for one thing, I doubt he's being charged for a felony as a juvenile
Chillum: I am feeling a little hyper today
Chillum: a "flame" or a "tuque"
mircea_popescu: teacher throw a fit. culprit could never be found.
Chillum: just like if he snuck into the office at night and changed the blackboard, a silly prank, still illegal, light sentence appropriate
Chillum: I would hope that the sentence reflect the seriousness of the crime... 48 hours probation and a stern "Don't do it again!"
trinque: so how about this is a teenage male pulling a prank
Chillum: capturing a WPA packet legal, cracking password from that packet legal, logging into the network - criminal unauthorized access
Chillum: still used today, meant to be a catch all for something too complex to put any thought into
mircea_popescu: charged with "an offense against a computer system"
mircea_popescu: this sounds like a grandiose arrangement Chillum
Chillum: The island I am on has logging everywhere but with a 30 year recovery period. So there are logging roads everywhere that are abondoned for the last 10-29 years
BingoBoingo: Chillum: Center of the University campus there is a forest. with nothing more than dirt trails and occasional bridge. Fastest way to get from one side to the other is traversing the woods. Because of USian automobile-subdivision town planning outside of downtown most residential areas are separated by virgin-ish woods
Chillum: it is a very idiomatic saying
Chillum: the eye of the needle was a crowded market in a narrow alley
mircea_popescu: which... it does. they tell legends of women that could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, but new york regularly sucked the jew riding a camel through the eye of a needle.
Chillum: the manner in which a city treats you is directly related to how savvy you are
Chillum: they behave a lot differently when they become town scavengers
Chillum: ever seen a seagull out in the wild? They are majestic. The city seagulls are vermin
BingoBoingo: Chillum: This is a rural/Suburban border town. Deer cull very effective here. Now when I lived in Carbondale... Deer raided the garbage dumpsters more than the raccoons did.
Chillum: I used to do a bit of deep forest gardening. I would use capsicum liquid all over to keep the deer away