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TheNewDeal: I saw the bet, it looked unbalanced, and then i bet
TheNewDeal: To me it doesnt matter the exact amount I make
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal what i mean is, the value of buying 1 btc from you rather than betting 1 btc is given by the weight differential
TheNewDeal: I did it before, check out my otp page
TheNewDeal: I give a small premium on timeweight
the_scourge: ascii_field: duly taken. i'm just trying to connect McCune to the articles i linked
TheNewDeal: I pay out after receiving payment from bitbet
the_scourge: ascii_field: i thought perhaps your 'answer lies in the sewers' paper was talking about the olfactory conservative/liberal thing, but upon reading it, it seems like it's talking about something else... spanish nobility dumping their worker's bodies in the sewers? am i close?
ascii_field: i must confess - despite having read every word of mr mold's UR (and got my fair fill of the author in his previous life, and likewise played in his hindley-milner mathemasturbatorium until could take it no more) - i am still no closer to grasping the_scourge's arguments
the_scourge: ascii_field: yes, i believe it's the same effect
the_scourge: sorry for the sources, i was struggling with my history grepping and resorted to ddg
the_scourge: er, sorry i didn't mean to reference one specific form of fascism ... i should have used 'left' and 'right' instead
mircea_popescu: the "turn the other cheek" folk over there. the "if you as much as bother a hair of my beard I'll gouge your fucking eyes out with your own detached ribs" folk over here.
mircea_popescu: i'd blogroll it.
mircea_popescu: it could as well mean blog going "Fuck you, of course I fuck my students!"
mircea_popescu: fortunately, i am lazy. also fortunately, it's a job that does itself.
mircea_popescu: if i weren't so lazy i guess i'd organise a special cell to create these derpy "controversies" about every single intellectually productive us person and have the academia "sever ties" with them.
danielpbarron: i can repeat for you
danielpbarron: i don't recall and didn't save it
danielpbarron: i think i tried the portatronic patch first and it didn't work
danielpbarron: but just to clarify, i'm supposed to patch with the portatronic thing after the chicken etc.. patches?
danielpbarron: that's what i thought
danielpbarron: i thought maybe it was all contained in the three tarballs in distfiles/
danielpbarron: i guess there are some dependancies that most users are assumed to already have on their system, mike_c ?
pete_dushenski: i scanned that dawkins piece a bit more... there were more unfounded claims than i could take
ben_vulpes: myeah i want this too
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes actually i confess i do the same sort of obsessive rereading myself. tho perhaps not on orlov and yarvin
ben_vulpes: i remember some really long stony nights in college going through the works
pete_dushenski: have i read mold as exhaustively as asciilifeform ? no. have i read some ? yes
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: nah i'm familiar with his work
the_scourge: so what carries currency here does not matter. reality matters. that is it. we've been living in a suspension of reality for at least 300 years, so i'm not surprised that our conversation is missing each other
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: ok it wasn't quite ready. it's not a strange notion what can be argued from first principles. i'm agreeing with your post
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: if you want a first principles argument for the existence of the cathedral, that has been given already. i'm not going to repeat it in an IRC channel. everyone knows where to find it, i'm just wondering why you in particular haven't looked at it
mircea_popescu: im sorry, i don't do that. if you wish to use it, introduce it. as per http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: probably, yes. i do like to hear things out. but i wish it was more prosaic in this case!
the_scourge: i agree the perspective here is refreshing and contrarian
the_scourge: trinque: ok, having experienced both, i'm pretty sure old moldbug is a much better mindfuck
chetty: <trinque> +the_scourge | mike_c: i'm starting to think that i've taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet << I came for the bitcoin, stayed for the mindfuck// aren't they the same thing?
trinque: +the_scourge | mike_c: i'm starting to think that i've taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet << I came for the bitcoin, stayed for the mindfuck
chetty: <the_scourge> chetty: are you talking about CHris Kyle? ... i guess he is a 'journalist' lol// no Brian Williams
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: oh yah cool BC is my stomping grounds but i worked in eddyville for a few summers
the_scourge: mike_c: i'm starting to think that i've taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet
mike_c: <+the_scourge> trust me, those assertions seem like total nonsense to me now, even though i fully believed them as recently as 3 weeks ago << imagine what you'll whole heartedly believe a month from now!
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i'm in edmonton. and iirc you're in canada too
the_scourge: trust me, those assertions seem like total nonsense to me now, even though i fully believed them as recently as 3 weeks ago
the_scourge: chetty: are you talking about CHris Kyle? ... i guess he is a 'journalist' lol
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: if you read how dawkins got pwned, then you'll understand what i mean by religionists
the_scourge: because that's not what i mean at all.
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: by religionists, i mean atheists
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: sure, i'll pick it up later, remember your question
mircea_popescu: anyway, tell gavin i'm off to eat.
mircea_popescu: i guess then it will get proven.
the_scourge: i don't understand waht that has to do with it
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i'd say allah's been around longer so... lindy effect
the_scourge: dude i am arguing the exact opposite. the beueaucrat has NOT power whatsoever. that is the entire point
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: have you ever seen someone explode themselves to influence the course of history? i have, in person
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i suppose this is another admonition not to use "we"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'the new state-of-the-art destroyer << is this the story that late bogart film was based on ? "mutiny on the bounty" i think it was called.
the_scourge: and i'm pretty sure i came in here to ask about it...
the_scourge: i remember seeing that war crimes comment a LONG time ago
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 01:25:17; mircea_popescu: so no, when i'm talking about hanging each and every us bureaucrat, through a war crimes court, within our lifetime i am not being in any sense and to any degree metaphorical.
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: ya the "phys-sec" thing is something i've heard about for years and years now
the_scourge: but i need to write this out in a better way ^
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: but i need to formulate my concerns. it's mostly to do with ... if you've succeeded in preserving a clean, elegant, un-pwnable bitcoind variant, then all the poser cyperpunks GTFO, leaving only a small minority of (VERY valuable BTC) who are then in a VERY phys-sec vulnerable position
danielpbarron: and it turns out there's an error before that one; currently trying to compile as root in case it's something i messed up with the cross compiler install
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 23:53:56; mircea_popescu: jurov for what it's worth, here's my experience with bitcoin remittances : i sent btc to otc correspondents, ordered wires sent out to the hk account of my local agent, who has paid me dollars, in cash, in argentina. the entire process took less than what it takes to get a letter of credit, and significantly less than what international trade normally settles in.
assbot: Hey /Outsideness, I'm curious: do you still have the private key for this address ? https://t.co/4euFxZqSW8
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: yah, i thought i had a modicum of those things and while i totally grasp it, my age + intution is doing this thing saying: it would never pan out like that anyways"
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: because most don't quite understand the point. i kinda get the perceived problem (thanks to alf) but the solution, while cool, hasn't struck me as nuclear (yet)
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 06:53:48; ben_vulpes: i know you don't like the guy, but nuking his record?
mircea_popescu: oh now i know whence i know him, he linked to me a few times.
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i've read more xeno that ur, it so happens
mircea_popescu: mod6: looks like 'i've only got 1: blk0001.dat, 985Mb <<< heh how about that, first 168k blocks fit in 1gb, the next 168k blocks fit in 35 gb.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla o i have :)
pete_dushenski: i said that it was nick's article
pete_dushenski: i think i referenced another one of his articles in the comments section of that first one
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: definitely. i'm answering one of his comments right now, as it so happens
the_scourge: i think a teenager today would find them obvious.
the_scourge: i lived in socal in mid-90s. i could see them, but they were not obvious
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: good advice but as a non-USian who has spent 90% of his life outside the US and 100% of his adult life outside of N/A, and has lived in non-western places as well, i think there could be something said for living for a short while in california or new england
the_scourge: i think "badly designed" might be giving too much credence
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski if you got the guy's email by virtue of him commenting, and you don't mind, drop him a note saying i loathe blogspot, but if he has time drop by for a chat.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: i can see the difference
the_scourge: BigBitz: i won't, sorry!
the_scourge: oh! ... i joined today at the point where you said "opportunity of a lifetime" < perhaps slightly /sarc ? :)
BigBitz: I have no idea who he is. I banned him from -otc originally.
the_scourge: i agree with everyone's sentiment regarding hipsters trying to figure out what ism they are. as someone who's had to earn all his priviledge, i went to uni with such people but cannot relate to them much. however didn't we just tell mr BigBitz and partner that it doesn't matter how hard you work, if you're working on the wrong thing?
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2014 01:39:07; mircea_popescu: i also picked up "nrx" today
mircea_popescu: ah there we go, it's right, i forgot it indexes after a delay.
pete_dushenski: mike_c: ha ya i went for an mp-esque long one there
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: mhm tis i
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol i guess so
punkman: I'm sure there's a whole bunch of "writers" that saw "NRx" and thought "hey, Rx is the good stuff right"
the_scourge fires up tribler, i think mrs scourge would enjoy that one!
fluffypony: the_scourge: I think we're going to end up like the people in Wall-E
the_scourge: fluffypony: it is relevant. this is another sign that society will colapse and i and many others were TOTALLY misguided on many thing in the last days of the empire
mircea_popescu: fuck him, after gpg2 i'm happy to hear.
the_scourge: uh, about my first yes, i should have said i understood where you're coming from, but i'm not sure you're observations are at all correct. on the second yes, you're very much wrong
mircea_popescu: so i'm not too inclined to see any of these lables as anything more than "ignorant kids from the us web". be it "nrx" or "neoreaction" or etc.
mircea_popescu: so let's leave aside the "therefore" bitcoin this and that, as i dun have the energy. instead, re "nrx" : i have little doubt that there are some kids in the us that thought the one repackaging of stuff they ran across is somehow more significant than all the repackagings they don't know, and definitely more significant than the originals. and that they need a name and so on. this exercise in nominalism does not instit