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Adlai: "I have to get back to work, have a nice end of days!" - Jesus 2.0
felipelalli: I have to back to work, have a nice end of day guys!
NewLiberty: I almost became 'unbanked' this week. I've had >10 accounts terminated by banks this year. It seems with the latest guidance from the Fed, banks categorize 'precious metal dealers' in the same bin as 'arms traders' and 'ponzi operators'.
BingoBoingo: I bough pnoHe and minutes cards for said without ID
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
ascii_field: NewLiberty: that's precisely the observation i was making: there is no one who has found it worth his while to solve the problem for others
danielpbarron: yeh you're right; but i could pay for simple food/rent from a strictly bitcoin income
ascii_field: danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry << the odds are that after you were to make two or three such inquiries, you will come across a usg stoolie
danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry
danielpbarron: idk, i got a weed guy; shouldn't i also have a fiat guy?
danielpbarron: couldn't i just pay a guy a premium to buy it for me?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: lucky fella, must be 100% theorist. i, for one, couldn't even get any of my experimental supplies without using electric fiat
danielpbarron: i could probably get to a non-fiat point; no kids no car no morgage no wives
ascii_field: ^ did i miss any other folks who live on atomic dirigibles and don't 'depend on paycheck'
NewLiberty: I don't imagine that they are alone in that effort.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i never followed that franchise, but did batman have a vallet / << He did indeed
mircea_popescu: i never followed that franchise, but did batman have a vallet /
mircea_popescu: ascii_field see, this is how i distinguish a genius geek from a simple geek : the latter programs computer to interact with him. the former, to interact with the girls.
mircea_popescu: your argument reduces to "i can't make a bottling plant out of a gallon of juice". sure.
ascii_field: for folks who aren't subjects of us, try the mindfuck on for size: if a crate of benjamins were to drop from the sky into my yard, there is literally nothing game-changingly useful that i could do with them
thestringpuller: again I'm only talking about people on fringes of WoT
ascii_field: ^ i can see reverse direction (btc to usd) being problematic. but usd to btc ?
danielpbarron: i don't get who would actually type in his password at gunpoint -- or, yet another reason to not do bitcoin from a smart phone
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Kerouac's On The Road: The 50th Anniversary Of A Book I Had Not Read ... ( http://bit.ly/19KDnsu )
thestringpuller: i don't see how this point is irrelevant due to cannabis being a physical good and bitcoin being a digital good
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: i'm saying that a physical presence is simpler to manage for a digital asset than a physical one
fluffypony: how did I miss that
pete_dushenski: i'm talking about btc now
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: is this for digitized of physical fiat? i'm assuming former
danielpbarron: idk how large of at trade you're talking about, but i did several deals worth several thousand dollars in otc through escrow agents
thestringpuller: i'm talking of people on fringes who aren't connected strong enough to make large trades at this point
thestringpuller: i'm not saying people not in WoT danielpbarron
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: I personally use bitcoin-otc but that's only because I have trusted people to sell me coin. For someone on fringes of this footprint who needs local fulfillment this creates the risk of "trapping".
danielpbarron: i can see how draining this would be if my free time was limited to a couple hours nightly
danielpbarron: well at least i'm in the fortunate position of getting my fiat stuff done in one heavy time period, leaving the rest of the year open
ascii_field: danielpbarron: you could find the bug in the netbsd ramdisk build script as well as i could
danielpbarron: is this something i should be able to teach myself in a reasonable amount of time?
danielpbarron: i'm downloading this right now -> ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-6.1/source/sets/src.tgz
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2015#1021759 << is this something i could be doing? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno man. that 11k the guy reported lost would have paid 1year rent + hardening measures.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: i like it!
thestringpuller: i thought it worked for conravex?
saifedean: it's february 2015 because i fixed it up just this week
nubbins`: i doubt he stopped checking the forum ;p
mircea_popescu: where do i go now ?
mircea_popescu: soo... if i want some laser handcarved items that were cut out of a log with an axe by adrunk sailor
danielpbarron: plus, if that ever took off i'm sure pokerstars would have killed it
mike_c: ok, i'll reserve comment until then. and you're a teleologist.
mircea_popescu: well i intend to, depending how this dignork thing works out.
mike_c: the sites already solve that. i know my friend's nicks and i can play with them if i want.
mircea_popescu: i also don't see how email will ever get enough interest if the only problem it solves ios "we'll save you the 9.95 a plastic maibox costs"
mike_c: mircea_popescu: not teleology, I just don't see how a poker site gets enough traffic if the only problem it solves is "we'll host your weekly poker game".
danielpbarron: my recommendation to Micon wasn't even to bar access based on WoT, but to just give players option to link to WoT identity so that I can make the determination myself
mike_c: idk, i am unconvinced. of course, we are assuming the solution here which mp hasn't specified.
mircea_popescu: i had no idea you were so teleological.
mike_c: so i'm playing with stranger, he runs good or makes a couple good bluffs, and so i negrate him?
danielpbarron: i don't see how it's any ddifferent; i wish i could play online with my weekly poker buddies
mike_c: i don't know that wot solves it all. so we start neg-rating on suspicion of bot use?
danielpbarron: i only play with people I know, or someone i trust knows
danielpbarron: nubbins`, uh.. what/? when I play face-to-face it's WoT poker
danielpbarron: well now i feel like a dick for having recommended people play only heads up to prevent collusion
mircea_popescu: why would i personally play against a machine ?!
mike_c: i saw it 15 years ago
mircea_popescu: look, i saw the al\berta thing
nubbins`: i used to work for a national insurance company, every corporate machine was a lenovo
mike_c: and also to be clear, i am talking about collusion, not bots.
nubbins`: i taught my roomie about CAs yesterday using them as an example
danielpbarron: if someone's in the WoT and they want a bot to play for them, I say go for it
nubbins`: this is one of the nicer pieces of kit i've picked up over years of outdoorsyness:
danielpbarron: dignork, i don't see what the problem is with a bot that doesn't collude
mike_c: anyhoo. Let me see if I can dig up some real stats.
mike_c: No, I'm not. the profit margins both live and online are significantly affected by rake
mircea_popescu: yes, i pay more rake. that's there but not really significant.
mike_c: you are paying 6x the blinds I am
mircea_popescu: yeah, but i lose it to myself.
mike_c: when i lose, i lose 1x. you lose, you lose 6x
mircea_popescu: i guess we go at this the other way then : we play poker, you see five + two cards, i see five + twelve cards.
danielpbarron: i'll gladly play against non-colluding bots any day; a bot can't out-bluff a real person; the whole point in having bots is that they share info with each other
mike_c: i have thought. i have played a lot of poker in my time.
ben_vulpes: i don't trust it
danielpbarron: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j662qaj8
mike_c: collusion-free poker is nice, but I think bots are more the problem.
danielpbarron: i think i still have the code lying around somewhere; i'll try to find it
mircea_popescu: "oh, i also built natural language ai"
danielpbarron: i also coded a thing that would simulate players having to learn each other's language by speaking to each other to build up understanding; had the effect where a group of friends could talk in long sentences that strangers couldn't understand; strangers would have to talk in very short lines like "yes" "no" "here" in order to understand each other
danielpbarron: fwiw, i have actually coded things that worked before; I made my own minecraft plugin that used a database to keep track of credit/debt between players when they took items from chests / it broke when an update totally revamped the inventory control system and I abandoned it / also, it was java :/
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no but he has a point. making an irc bot excellent coding exercise. i agree, good 1st time thing for intelligent person.
pete_dushenski: if it takes me 5 years to learn how to code, by golly i'll do it
pete_dushenski: classic "i coulda been a contender"
mircea_popescu: a decade later or w/e, the world can be as full of "i too could have been in" as it pleases, for all the good it'll do anyone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i need that like i need more women that'd date me if i paid them a salary for it.
danielpbarron: i sent him a tweet reminding him you tried offering him a job last year; maybe this mess has snapped him out of it
danielpbarron: all the times i called into Micon's stupid podcast i was trying to get him to integrate the WoT
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know why it's there
asciilifeform: so was i
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: o i believe!
pete_dushenski: and i suppose sluttery means slavery in latin
mircea_popescu: not that i mind the arrangement... but in absolute fairness it IS stupid as all fuck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then they wonder why they have to pay people immense sums to keep secrets that still don't, and i don't have to pay them anything other than "yeah, yeah, i'll stick it to those dudes".
mircea_popescu: and by law i mean us law, also known as lol.