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Pierre_Rochard: “You really want
a company full of missionaries, not mercenaries.” <- well let’s say their are fewer missionaries in the labor market than there are missionary positions. You have to compete for them somehow.
decimation: Pierre_Rochard: exactly. also, given that if you are making less than $150k in silicon valley you are literally
a bum - it won't take much for 'salary fashions' to change
Pierre_Rochard: ^ place this quote under “self-serving” in
a dictionary
decimation: of course he's not
a fan, because if suddenly 'talent' thinks they are worth $250k instead of $50k, his own business implodes
decimation: "It's "
a horrific idea," [paying $250k] said Sam Altman, the president of Y Combinator, Silicon Valley's most prestigious technology incubator. "It seems on paper like
a really good idea [since] great engineers can create huge value. [But] here's why it doesn't work: You really want
a company full of missionaries, not mercenaries. And so if your company is known as the place where you can make
a huge cash salary, you end up
mod6: <+trinque> may help; that's
a working gentoo kernel out on ec2 << i'll try this out tomorrow
trinque: may help; that's
a working gentoo kernel out on ec2
trinque: and bring your partner in here for
a beating next
danielpbarron: it's less of
a bother than your apology for the perceived bother
trinque: rather than gossip protocols and all this other fancy shit, what's wrong with
a simple gpg message format that constitutes
a rating
trinque: the other is
a publishing problem, mostly solved by gpg
livegnik: trinque: I'm not much of
a coder, so I'm not able to answer that last remark at this point. Martti probably has
a fitting answer for that one, according to my previous experiences with his mostly-always-sufficient answers.
trinque: seems there's
a simpler way
trinque reserves judgment on whether this is
a nice marmot yet
livegnik: You could put it that way. It's
a layer to shuffle your marmot around, or whatever analogy you prefer.
livegnik: And we're working on
a permission database / filter/firewall & communication application that can run between the node that stores the actual data, and the other trusted nodes, in order to set thresholds based on permissions for sharing info.
trinque: so you're merely using "bitcoin" as
a gossip layer
livegnik: trinque: We plan to break-even within (max)
a year or 3.
☟︎ trinque: the idea that profitability is something you can "figure out along the way" if at all, is
a braindead american VC concept
trinque: livegnik | trinque: So would we. Sirius spent 1.5 half years working on the proof-of-concept, and I've spent the last 8 months working on this project << for the logs, it is never, ever
a good idea to leap off into some venture with both feet when the venture has no profitability or plan to achieve it
danielpbarron: so there should be
a link on your site to my "address book" listing ?
livegnik: Can I drop
a few lines (like 15 or so) in here to give some examples of what Identifi nodes could be applied to?
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 13:15:14; mircea_popescu: gribble went down at some point. this is rare, but whatever, happens. nanotube was also unresponsive. after
a few days in this position assbot got enabled to wot
livegnik: I'd even dare to predict that this should enable business models like, e.g,
a decentralized credit rating agency.
livegnik: Everyone in the Bitcoin-OTC WoT should be in there, if correct. There's
a Bitcoin-OTC crawler for Identifi nodes :)
trinque: I'd be interested to see an example of that business model working for something that's not
a) propped up by VC b) propped up by govt or c) already had
a viable consulting business
livegnik: I'm actually not interested in
a very high valuation, to be honest, just to be able to pay
a few devs to work on this full-time.
danielpbarron: what would an L3 consist of? friend of
a friend of
a friend? no thanks
livegnik: trinque: There are 2 types of messages: 1.) verifications of identity's identifiers, and 2.) trust ratings ("Alice is
a terrific barber!". "Bob is the worst car salesman!", "DID_REPAY_LOAN_ON_TIME", etc.)
danielpbarron: so it is like
a WoT within
a WoT as you might imagine, where each user is
a WoT or whatever
danielpbarron: livegnik, my L1 or "level one" consists of users that I trust (have given
a rating) directly
trinque: livegnik: so this is
a haxed bitcoin where the payments are instead ratings, yeah?
livegnik: The first is
a quite shallow explanation of the project, we'll update it within
a few months or so (after rounding up the pilot projects, board of advisors, and funding).
trinque: mod6: yeah from whatever the bootloader is; there's also
a way to build command line (meaning kernel command line) parameters into the kernel itself
livegnik: danielpbarron: The main difference between Bitcoin-OTC and Identifi, if I understand correctly, is that the Bitcoin-OTC WoT acts as
a WoT-for-all, whereas with Identifi each identity has it's own WoT, and there's no 'general' score.
☟︎ danielpbarron: "Martti Malmi is
a former computer science student from Helsinki University of Technology who nowadays works as
a software developer. He is well-known for being the first person to join Satoshi Nakamoto in the development of Bitcoin."
trinque: livegnik: this "guid" you're reaching for is called
a keypair
trinque: So we can have
a "mainnet" can we also have "AliceNet" or "Mynet?" Yes, in theory we can. << this does *not* follow
trinque: this is written in
a haphazard manner
livegnik: asciilifeform:
A set of attributes, identifiers. I've extensively elaborated on it in the comment on Ian's article.
livegnik: asciilifeform: Mostly
a whitelist. Whitelisting solves the Sybil. The thing is, whitelisting hasn't been very user-friendly up till now, without the security trade-off.
livegnik: Yesterday I've written an extensive comment on Ian Grigg's article about ID issues, especially in combination with the blockchain. It's quite the read, but I think it'll be worth your time, if you want to get
a more in-depth view of Identifi:
☟︎ livegnik: It's
a protocol for identity management for both humans, entities, and machines. It gives the ability to create Sybil-proof WoTs (to the extent that the least trustworthy node added, decides the strength of your security), for almost anything.
mod6: I should re-iterate that I'm still waiting on
a pogo to come to me...so this v0.5.3.1+OrphanageNuke test is running on AWS deb6 (amd64)
danielpbarron: "CEO & Co-Founder of Identifi -- Collaborating on an Open Source Protocol for Sending Trust over the Internet; Advancing the Wild Wild Web into
a Web of Trust."
danielpbarron: to make it
a pain in the ass to verify any of this stuff; to set the bar high so as to keep out the children
Pierre_Rochard: trinque: agreed, I’m thinking I’ll have
a source code subscription for the hacker types, and
a hosted treasury concierge for the lazy/busy
mircea_popescu: should be
a very interesting world once the us is poor and east/central asia ric
trinque: Pierre_Rochard: very cool; I think americans would pay for
a managed version of this
Pierre_Rochard: I have
a “personal finance” chart of accounts and
a “service business” chart of accounts, they’re CSVs that are easy to customize
mircea_popescu: i dunno, he's working on it. but basically yeah, should be
a web/bitcoin interface for accounting'
trinque: looks like as
a business, but similar needs
mircea_popescu: i imagine Pierre_Rochard 's thing is actulaly very close to that. prolly bestwork as
a wrapper on it
trinque: mircea_popescu: speaking of women, I've mused before about
a service that handles all financial and bureaucratic considerations for an average american
mircea_popescu: trinque that's the "innovation" << exactly. and inasmuch as the us tort system is insane, this is both unavoidable and in
a sense useful. but this doesn't mean uber makes any sense, anymore than shaving head in women makes sense. "but she's got lice" "well in THAT case"
mircea_popescu: <mats> why would you possibly want to use airbnb << it's really
a sort of swinger's club for people that are not really into swinging.
jurov: trinque: i'm interested, too. i did it once but did not made
a script from it
trinque: sure, and I have
a working kernel config handy if you want that
mod6: The first attemp's error might have... I only got
a glimpse of it once though, it never let me look at the System log again for some dumb reason.
mod6: no worries, now when I check it with `mount -
a`, it all seems happy
trinque: yeah probably old; I didn't use
a write-up
mod6: sysysfs isn't
a thing
mod6: the instructions that you posted were slightly off from what is reality on these environments. (perhaps just
a bit old)
mod6: anyway, i'll give an update in here after this next attempt with
a new kernel.
mod6: now, the new one I'm trying; that one has
a .config -- that's actually the last thing I just did in the steps, config'd the kern, build the kern. now need to make the AMI and try it.
mod6: <+mod6> (this error is from the build where I /didn't/ build
a new kernel) << no new kernel, no .config
mod6: (this error is from the build where I /didn't/ build
a new kernel)
trinque: mod6: I have my own needs for
a nicely scripted gentoo-ec2 deployer
trinque: "We could deploy
a carnival so much more quickly if we didn't bother with safety precautions, and instead let each guest assemble his piece of the rides, and signing off that he is personally liable for that part."
mod6: then, I tried the same thing without
a new kernel, with the same result. I'm gonna try one more time with kernel and see if I get any different results.
mod6: got an AMI built from stage3 with
a new kernel, which promptly kernel panic'd when I used said AMI to provision
a new system
mod6: so, I have that deb6 aws env still... I used to use MRTG, but now I guess this 'RRD' thing is all the rage. I know for sure that I can test mem on
a 1s interval with vmstat and capture that with `script`. I'd really like to compare the network traf of full sync with the patch, and without.
trinque: when I was
a teenager I did IT monkey stuff for
a Hilton
trinque: and are
a good hotel to the extent that they do that well
williamdunne: trinque: Doesn't look like there has been too much going wrong,
a few cases of houses being vandalized, or customers being dickholes
mats: i'd rather be slapped in the face with half
a dozen cocks than sleep in
a mystery airbnb bed
mats: why not just invite
a homeless person into my home and let him stay there for
a few days
williamdunne: Seems like
a lot more can go wrong with amateur dentistry than amateur room-renting
williamdunne: I dunno, maybe I'm missing something but it seems like
a pretty solid alternative for short stays. Wouldn't use it for
a holiday but,
a weekend in
a new city? Sure.
mircea_popescu: unlike musk, they're not actually somebody. hard to put up
a fight. even with graham's efforts.
mircea_popescu: nobody could have foreseen
a blow-up, we're success-oriented these days
williamdunne: Its meant to be renting spare rooms not
a dedicated hotel, no?
mircea_popescu: i also had nice experiences with crack whores. still not much of
a business model.