asciilifeform: he also came up with a hash algo, 'tortuga'
asciilifeform: anyway mircea_popescu , m. blaze's 'turtle' is, afaik, the only ~claimed~ provably-hard block cipher (non-otp) that i was able to track down.
asciilifeform: i think i will go to a racing competition; and submit an 'enchilada cipher' car, a junkyard carcass of old ferrari welded to remnants of a crashed mazerati.
asciilifeform: srsly, classic example of 'cryptographers' playing confusion mind games with own selves
asciilifeform: what i was wondering is how the author of the comment came to think that this fits the specs given
asciilifeform: and, again, if the ciphertrons are INDEPENDENT, you can't do any damage by adding a damaged link downstream.
asciilifeform: not always available - you gotta build it.
asciilifeform: you are ~guaranteed~ the strength of the strongest.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is useful the way that the rng xor is useful
asciilifeform: if the composed elements are FULLY independent - composes.
asciilifeform: also, i will defend the notion that crypto - composes. usefully. the contrary notion is due 100% to retarded implementers, who belong in fermenting vat
asciilifeform: so why specifically can we rule the thing out physically
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever read feynman's original paper on the subj ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the latter is demonstrably false
asciilifeform: (or, for that matter, integer factorization. which, for n00bz, i will point out that rsa has never actually been formally reduced to!)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which is why i'd rather not live and die solely by the discrete log problem.
asciilifeform: see, i'm unwilling to entirely discount the 'quantum' calculator thing.
asciilifeform: gonna have to cheat in wolf form, somehow.
asciilifeform: also interesting property, in c-s, you lose the chosen-ciphertext attack resistance if you split the message.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was trying to figure out if it is separable from his use of the diffie hellman decision problem as the basis for the system
asciilifeform: l0l must be like the fingers of guitarist !
asciilifeform: and irc frontend makes sense, thinkaboutit, nobody wants to use a cruddy ui hacked up for the occasion, everyone already has something reasonable that is irctronic☟︎
