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asciilifeform: i.e. demonstrates that understands answer is 'yes, noshit'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, he starts with rhetorical 'but how could be political' then proceeds to show entirely edible concrete example
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:27:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:07:50 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937913 << btw these need the 'htt...' for the parser to fire
asciilifeform: fwiw it's possible that the 'hm, i'ma unplug, then go smoke, and then plug in' took place upstream of piz.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will take a look and send a note.
asciilifeform: ( when asciilifeform was a sysop, never took 4 whole min to move a live cable. but whoknows, orcs )
asciilifeform: the likely thing is that someone somewhere physically moved a plug.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope, this is from a box asciilifeform physically sat on, gets reclocked regularly
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is there any clock drift on the machine that logged that?
asciilifeform: Sep 25 15:56:32 * trinque (~undata@unaffiliated/undata) has joined #trilema << marks end of outage.
asciilifeform: moar precisely, tho, Sep 25 15:52:30 * snsabot has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) << from asciilifeform's local (new york time) log
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When was the event in question?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to make inquiry at piz house , see if they have an answer re dafuq , e.g. 'today we vacuumed the switch'
asciilifeform: mine appears to be 100% current ( haven't seen re lobbes's yet ) , diana_coman invited to pipe from there.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc you had a student write a db differ ? is this posted ? could then find why yours is missing 1ln
diana_coman: looking in my local log, there was no talk in #o between snsabot out/in
asciilifeform: snsabot dun appear to have missed any lines in #o during the mystery-outage
diana_coman: ugh; is that the first out of sync line?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty strange, seems that they fell outta sync ~before~ this outage ?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 15:54:49 diana_coman: well, syncing indices is gotta be automated not manual hunting though
diana_coman: and yes, have to automate sync
asciilifeform: would be good if didn't have to be done w/ bare teeth, but i'ma do, brb
asciilifeform: diana_coman: loox like i'ma have to resync in #o tho.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: fwiw I was keeping a bit mum precisely to give you time to sync bot when I saw it went down first; then ofc everyone @piz went down
asciilifeform: pretty interesting outage, too, net pipe gone for 3min or so (boxes still up, so not mains failure)
asciilifeform: no one spoke on other chans , and i turned the crank in time. but we're gonna want to automate these.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: did the bot get out of sync now ?
asciilifeform: dulap unreachable for 1st time since year+ ago when bb elbowed the mains cord
diana_coman: ossasepia.com (pizarro) is down too, yes
diana_coman: well, apparetly he was connected from piz too, lol
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
asciilifeform: the current algo, for thread-completeness.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if anyone can think of a cleaner way to parse the 2 types of link ( [][] and naked htt.. ) than what's given in asciilifeform's reader.py , i'd like to hear about it. ( presently there's a quite ugly 2-step transform, as apparently it is impossible to regexp-transmute a grammar w/ 2+ patterns in 1 step )
asciilifeform: could, naturally, force ~any~ text found in the 1st clause of a [][] pair to linkify, but will give yet entirely diff flavour of brokenness in other cases
asciilifeform considered how to get 'naked' links to work, but concluded that it's prolly undecidable
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 14:59:46 mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in intellectual stance : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937913 << btw these need the 'htt...' for the parser to fire
asciilifeform: system that runs on Windows.'
asciilifeform: aking the proposition of free trade futile. Whether or not Drepper is aware of the political implications of the of his technical decision is irrelevant to the fact of their existance. Nevertheless, there is a belief by technologists “educated” at ITT and the public equivilants that software can exist outside of politics. As a result the US has a legal system that runs on Word, a financial system that runs on Excel, and a voting
asciilifeform: for the l0gz: 'Years ago, a “technical” decision was made by a core gcc developer named Drepper to break static linking. This means that no useful binaries can ever execute on Linux without dynamically linking to certain libraries making the proposition of distributing signed binaries futile, making the proposition of secure software futile, making the proposition of Bitcoin futile, making the proposition of sound money futile, m
snsabot: Logged on 2017-04-02 11:49:48 jhvh1: Hello thorntron. Who is your daddy and what does he do?
mircea_popescu: anyways ; the name sounds familiar
mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in intellectual stance : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
mircea_popescu: moreover, functional technology (as epitomized by Bitcoin) is definitionally, necessarily and unavoidably anti-socialist. so much so that reliably one can use the reverse heuristic : if something doesn't shit on the needy, doesn't it make it harder for the stupid and more expensive for the poor, that something is most likely shit, not technology
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/systemds-poettering-wants-to-break-linux-user-management-to-suspend-his-laptop/ << Qntra -- SystemD's Poettering Wants To Break Linux User Management To Suspend His Laptop
asciilifeform: seems to have grasped various points as he lurked.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
asciilifeform: with the modest ram, not a rk competitor, but potentially useful for other applications ( has 3 serial ports, so can eat FG ) ; runs 'pogo'-style linux, so can stuff even classic gpg in ; can have nic plug attached, so potentially even host small net proggies ; pulls coupla milliwatt, so could work in radio relays or similar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the smallpox is necessary ; the orcs left undisturbed turn into fucking scotts.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: that's...spores, not spies?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these new 'spies' aint tryin to bring back seekritz, but instead simply spread rot, a sort of bipedal smallpox blanket. seems to work
mircea_popescu: much like matter-antimatter reaction's the most intense energy debit known to nature, "representative democracy" is the most intense garbage debit possible in society.
mircea_popescu: what they produce is garbage -- and on a "fair terms" comparison, i truly do not believe anyone can outdo socialism's per-capita, per-unit time, per-unit consumed or per-anything else garbage production.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck well are they gonna work. good spies believe in something.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:58 mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of [http://trilema.com/2011/serviciul-nemuririi-partea-i/#comment-131551][institutionalized w
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937874 << seems like the termites they sent, work approx as well as spies ever did
mircea_popescu: in practical terms makes exactly 0 diff if you 1-rate or 2-rate noobs. plenty of space to 9.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's need for a not-negative, nonzero number. 1 has been coopted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, cuz im not that interested.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:23:44 mircea_popescu: damn, rating > 1. so 2 trhough 10 inclusive.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937828 << outta curiosity, why not let the +1 people speak if they wake up ? ( or is idea that returns from grave oughta go straight to castles )
asciilifeform: it's come to where it almost makes sense to recap'em ~straight out of crate~
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 06:27:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, was the cap.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937738 << i admit, not yet seen one since '90s where it wasn't the cap
mircea_popescu: went as far as it could, but as you might notice, dude's blog's as abandoned as this whole 2000s lulz.
mircea_popescu: caged tit.
mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of institutionalized womanhood /
mircea_popescu: ulbright recipient and was resident in the Department of Political Science at Indiana University in 2003–2004. "
mircea_popescu: She founded the country's first gender studies Master's program in 1998, and helped to organize one of its earliest independent women's nongovernmental organizations: AnA –The Romanian Society for Feminist Analyses. She is an expert advisor to both UNESCO and the European Union, and has won international fellowships at Cornell University, Oxford University and the Central European University in Budapest. She was also a F
mircea_popescu: la in accordance to the Bologna Programme, being a member of the evaluation commission in 1997.
mircea_popescu: e of Political Science in Romania at Faculty of Political Science, National School of Political Studies and Public Administration, Bucharest. She added in the university curricula courses like feminist philosophy at the University of Bucharest, Faculty of Philosophy. In 2001, she had coordinated and the first collection of Gender Studies, Polirom Publishing. Moreover, her involvement developed the Political Science Curricu
mircea_popescu: then... she reappears. in 1998 he's annointed secretary of state, out of strictly nowhere ; she gets the political science deanship at the bucharest university, also out of nowhere. and from there, beautiful http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ careers in the delightful wooden tongue of the new socialism : "In 2000, she instituted the first postdoctoral programm
mircea_popescu: except, of course, he's briefly director of the us influence publishing house, in 1990. then he disappears, with the purging of usgistanis in 1991.
mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in wikilulz, "She had permanently got actively involved in the society through institutional, civic and mediatic journals regarding philosophy, political science and the process of democratization in Romania."
mircea_popescu: aaalrighty, that's done.
mircea_popescu: who else wants travel keys tehn ?
mircea_popescu: !!rate mp_en_viaje 2 my travel key.
diana_coman: but no, I wouldn't ask to have my travel key 9-rated.
diana_coman: for that matter, travel keys won't be able to self-voice but I don't see a real problem with that.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, that's it exactly, im also running a slutteria here among other things
diana_coman: I was just going/checking through the list and it seems everyone on the list got their 9 rating
mircea_popescu: okies, did i fuck anything up ? since i'm right here at the instruments and can readily fix it.
bvt: yes, this is what i was talking about, ty.
mircea_popescu: that'll be a doozy to translate to latin when he asks for his castle deed huh!
mircea_popescu: !!rate bvt 9 his lordship the lord verschlimmbessert
mircea_popescu: i suspect the issue was, didn't update his rating then because traveling or w/e, and look the havok it wrought downstream.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I think this issue with self-voice vs lordship comes from #trilema being both republican halls (ie lords discussion) and your own training halls (hence nicoleci's problem to self-voice if only-9 can do it);
mircea_popescu: damn, rating > 1. so 2 trhough 10 inclusive.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:53:50 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937433 << should be very easy, i.e. wrapped this weekend or next. to confirm, same rules as deedbot : nonzero rating -> able to self-voice?
mircea_popescu: so check this out trinque i changed my mind! http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << rating < 1, actually.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:14:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the only workable solution here is indeed to admit http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937525 was actually ill-considered. yes 9 specifically might mean lordship, but that's not === selfvoice.
bvt: mircea_popescu: i.e., in this context my rating remains +2, hence no self-voice in #trilema?
mircea_popescu: well... considering that i've been doing nothing all morning but fuck qwith cryptosystems, perhaps it could be said i've earned a breakfast.
diana_coman: lol! that is probably among the easiest thing to prophesize, esp in land of shepherds
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform scores on his choice of epithet. amir-al-bahr used to be "commander of the fleet", but the dwellers in the lower part of the kingdom of two sicilies (a byzantine remnant) thought it's rather something else.
diana_coman: so yes, nothing the rater can/wishes to say of the current "person"; still, they can/wish to say something of the past-identity if one asks
diana_coman: hm; rather: 0 = there is history of interaction but there is nothing to say of the person currently (dead @ the morgue, precisely); onth no rating means no history whatsoever.