asciilifeform: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.001/abelson-sussman-lectures << them

asciilifeform: (yes there was a film series)

asciilifeform: the films are also on www

asciilifeform: (not even pdfated!11)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can read sicp for phree on www

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: think aperture grille on crt.

asciilifeform: punkman: more holes than pixels.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's on your list ?

asciilifeform: http://www.nada.kth.se/~viggo/problemlist/compendium.html << related...

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: mp-hard - requires being mp.

asciilifeform: i suppose i got it backwards

asciilifeform: possibly.

asciilifeform: it is mp-hard if it requires merely being phriendz with mircea_popescu ...

asciilifeform: a problem is mp-complete if its solution requires being mircea_popescu !

asciilifeform: and what's a bitcoin watering hole?

asciilifeform: adlai: where do you find these folks.

asciilifeform: hm

asciilifeform: wat's stockfish?

asciilifeform: skinner did not have nn, he instead taught pigeon to fly a rocket bomb. and did not ask the pigion how he did it, also.

asciilifeform: aha, dragonfly.

asciilifeform: pronounced 'ell-user'

asciilifeform: technical term is - 'luser'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the lulzy part is that my misfired 5b played a part in this

asciilifeform grasps where mircea_popescu is going with this

asciilifeform: to ~whom~ does perelman prove ?

asciilifeform: me ok i'll bite!

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, i'm not a mircea_popescu , and i design and build out of materials that i can have , rather than what i would have if i were a mircea_popescu .

asciilifeform: (pretty sure 'squid' still requires shaving heads, a mm or so max)

asciilifeform: jurov: go and pick it up.

asciilifeform: ergo still is.

asciilifeform: was possible in 1995

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you even knew what other things i do that are 'no way to live'

asciilifeform: note, it is an entirely legit thing, to design for dirigible, for reactor. but i do not have these things. so i don't design for them.

asciilifeform: because unlike mircea_popescu , i do not have a mobile aluminum dirigible cabin.

asciilifeform: say i want machine that does not radiate, ~under the open sky~

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, it is 'this solution requires money'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: being able to build anything whatsoever room-scale is a 'not for poorfag' thing

asciilifeform: jurov: shielding a cm^2 thing is cheap?

asciilifeform: i was discussing how it could be solved inexpensively.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i, like everybody else, know how to solve the problem expensively.

asciilifeform: certainly compared to 'faraday room'

asciilifeform: jurov: before very long, fiber looks cheap

asciilifeform: and over the ground (which, as mircea_popescu likes to remind us, has an impedance)

asciilifeform: jurov: you will find that good shielding is tricky, you get leakage over the supply rail

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: anyway if the 'ant catalogue' (per snowden2) is to be believed, it ~does~ fit in arse...

asciilifeform: (traditional ru greeting to fella with bad aim)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds me of 'file off that front sight'

asciilifeform: jurov yes

asciilifeform: even nazis had 'gurtelpeiler'

asciilifeform: btw, further thread necromancy, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-02-2016#1399548 << this is misguided, no one goes around with stereotypical 'black van' any longer, the gear is pocket-sized (knapsack at the most) ☝︎

asciilifeform: anyway iirc we had this thread some time before.

asciilifeform: which is why you can 'hear' a pc keyboard from 30+ metres.

asciilifeform: presently there is a predictable row/column scan pattern

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit

asciilifeform: include rng.

asciilifeform: the answer:

asciilifeform: jurov: it is possible to make a trivial mod that obviates the need for shielding the scan matrix

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ?

asciilifeform: would jurov ?

asciilifeform: a replacement controller pcb for ibm keyboard that does 'toslink' instead of ps/2, i would buy.

asciilifeform: hence the thread.

asciilifeform: it is peripherals which are tricky

asciilifeform: jurov: this is not hard

asciilifeform: and again, the converter box imposes idiot limits on res/refresh

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't 'doesn't radiate' if you need a terminator plugged with normal copper, that does

asciilifeform: (also they all have ludicrous res limit)

asciilifeform: so wtf's the use

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: because connected to pc with guess what! normal cable.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and radiate like hell

asciilifeform: fiber lcd ?

asciilifeform: where is the fiber gpu ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha but plug into what.

asciilifeform: i'd like the cable that can be 1km long and doesn't radiate, plox

asciilifeform: so don't pinch!

asciilifeform: (in what other sense do konsoomerz learn.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'learns' in the circus sense. the lions that did not learn, went for bear food

asciilifeform: just as chumpers learned not to drop ipnohe.

asciilifeform: learns not to bend.

asciilifeform: soo? he bends, buys another.

asciilifeform: so high that three metres is too long ?!

asciilifeform: and no consumer ever repairs a cable, wtf

asciilifeform: 'takes well to damage' is not a thing

asciilifeform: and have you tried bending copper dvi cable ?

asciilifeform: you must be confusing it with copper coax

asciilifeform: nein

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: terminators !?

asciilifeform: i am speaking of: why the everliving fuck is the gpu connected to the lcd with anything other than a single strand of fiber.

asciilifeform: and made in quite low volume

asciilifeform: jurov: because, again, the ~extender~ is an active circuit

asciilifeform: no copper

asciilifeform: (no need for shield, for example)

asciilifeform: even though it would be, in all likelihood, ~cheaper~ to make

asciilifeform: (afaik)

asciilifeform: jurov: i always found it interesting that you can't get display cable ~optic~

asciilifeform: at any rate, preet is not a playing character, but a reflection of lizard will. a freisler.